[IC] Exile Order for the Ebon Shroud

(Would like to remind all the council is not a court)

(Out of curiousity, where is the line drawn?)

*having just left stormwind.. she snatches a poster and sends it forth to the hold on a Grophen made of ice then flee's to ironforge* (on my dk shentin)

*Tairah scans the poster, sighing deeply the more she reads. Muttering something about the whole taking punishment for the few.*

*Garrim reads the first line and begins laughing, spilling most of the contents of his tankard on to the poster. He then cheers as he walks off.*

Dwyburn wrote:(Out of curiousity, where is the line drawn?)

(What day are you talking about? :p)

Lexgrad wrote:(Would like to remind all the council is not a court)

(We are not. The courts come after the order is defied. Don't shoot me, i'm just the one who can write a nice lookin' warrant. Blame you naughty death knights for being well.. naughty.)

*sniffs* poor shentin.. she gets pulled out of the pit (prisson) from the last dk order that was being rebelious only to end up joining another that gets banned form sw withing the week of joining lol,.. and she was just exploring what she has missed in the few years she has been freezing her ass off too lol))

Monrena wrote:*having just left stormwind.. she snatches a poster and sends it forth to the hold on a Grophen made of ice then flee's to ironforge* (on my dk shentin)

Yer bit screwed in Ironforge too, the Senate reinforced laws against death knights last week

((ay she is unaware thow for once shentin was always and has always been a very well behaved deathknight))

*A grizzled and rough looking man shuffles through the crowds cowled and heavily bearded, hunched even. He approaches one of the posters and begins to read it hastily in a murmur, looking over his shoulder every five seconds. At about half way a faint smile plays across his lips, once finished he quietly exhales as he declares to himself "Fel... It's about time.."*

((Heretics and their vile opinions. *glances at Helmfrid.*))

(( So now my second favorite character is banned from stormwind too, just bacause she's in a guild? That is bullshit. ))

(( I would like to remind people, that the Ebon Shroud aren't citizens of stormwind, but "Allies", and it is part of the political power to break alliances, and send the buggers packing out of there territory, for whatever reason they see fit. justified or not. If the Ebon Shroud stays in stormwind, now then they'll be arrested and deported or trialed. This has nothing to do with criminal law. It has to do with how "Allies" deal with eachother.

And this order is clear, the Ebon Shroud are no longer allies and therefore not welcome within the Kingdom of Stormwind. Break that edict and see yourself trialed. ))

(( It's still OOC bullshit that I did nothing wrong on a character, never broke any law and have been patient and obidient with any "living" my character has come across, and now find my character not being able to enter stormwind because of the tabard she wears??. I'm already sour about Delidah being banished, but she had it coming... This is just bullcrap.

Banish characters, not guilds. ))

((hmm I do indeed somewhat agree with deli here as my do too is in the same boat ic'ly. Sad as shentin has some very unusual plot developments and such banishment is gonng hurt. All I can say is shenny was not in the shroud for long. As such she would be unrecognized as a shroud this she has taken residence if if to keep an eye on the situation))

(( I can aree with you guys in some ways about the whole banishment of the guild,but on the other hand its not all a con situation if you step back and look at the situation from a diffrent angle it could give you some good material to creat some very nice RP situations with this.))

(( That's very nice and all, but the bottom line is a story is being forced on my character that I did not sign up for. Now if the banishment included jumping camp from the shroud to stormwind without punishment then at least a choice is given. Now it's sort of: "Yeah some guildies of yours did some things when you where away for a weekend and eeh... Yeah if your character sets foot in stormwind, we're killing it."

Imagine if I wouldn't have had a forum account and been away from the guild for a couple of days. The Acherus may be a little slow so I decide to hop on my dead griffon and woddle around stormwind for some random rp, BAM, suddenly I'm in chains and being persecuted for things I didn't do nor knew anything about.

I'll roll with it, sure, but I still think it's bullshit. ))

I understand the frustration, but well that's what happens when joining an organisation that's into less the amicable conflict with their supposed allies. There's simply a point where it doesn't make sense ICly to let a "rogue organisation" do their thing in favour of well, "you're an individual". You're part of a guild, and of the guild's actions.

Besides I believe the matter was stated ICly twice at council now as well...
And as far as I know there's even a loophole of mercy for individuals in it.

Make the most out of it, I'd say. ))

(( Not been active enough to realize what happened but I am agreeing with Amaryl here. However, I suggest you use this to enrich your character. Perhaps even fight to make an appeal to the council as individuals, requests rights for you as person to be in the city perhaps on certain terms? Your organization is banned, doesn't mean you can't fight for your own rights.

See it as solid RP and try to solve it through RP. ))

(( Fun how you say that I should use this to enrich my character, while a big portion of what my character is about is that she aides the living. This is a story that is now being forced on me by events I took no part in.

Childishly put it's just not fair. It is uncourteous, and it is quite simply bad RP manners.

That some people like to play council does not give them the right to direct my character. ))

It is a bit hard from a certain perspective, though.

If you have a guild do evil stuff as part of its guild events, repeatedly, how can you NOT banish them? What do you say to all the people who come weekly to the council for a month about it? "We are investigating the details of this incident to find exactly who was present at those occasions and who did what and punish them accordingly".

Personally, if I was The Council, I would just chicken out of the situation and let Braiden handle it.

(( You need to keep it in context and not set it personally. The Ebon Shroud has comitted several crimes, hence have been banished as a whole. It isn't directing your character at all. Sure, it may be a pushback for you but such things happen in roleplay. I stick by what I said earlier. If your character is not a criminal nor participating in the necromantic acts of the Shroud, I see no reason why you cannot appeal to the council to get rights to be in the city yourself, perhaps without tabard, but still.

Let me give you an example of the logic behind the whole group being banned. I like to believe Warcraft's setting stands around the rights and traditions of the medieval ages, perhaps a bit more advanced. So, check this scenario:

An assault is made on the Barracks. 5 men were captured. All bearing the same sigil of let's call it Piggyrobbers. Those 5 men would be sentenced, and the rest of the Piggyrobbers hunted down and possibly exiled or even executed, wether they were part of it or not. A woman and two children, bearing the Piggyrobbers mark were never involved, lose their home. They make an appeal, condemning what their fellow Piggyrobbers did and regain shelter. Under guard at first perhaps, but they get their home back ultimately. ))