Re: Horde locking down MoP zones

by **Raenmar** Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:55 pm

I don't think they have the attention span to have a lasting effect on anything.

http://www.defiasrp.com/t5412-the-ganking-issues-with-the-aboc-guild-or-whatever-they-re-called

http://www.defiasrp.com/t5282-community-griefing-influx

http://www.defiasrp.com/t5185-gilneas-current-state

by **Rmuffn** Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:55 pm

Raenmar wrote:
Well there you have it.

I don't see why it matters what level they are when we'll all be stuck at 85 anyway, unless we go through dungeons.

The level matters shitall. The fact that THEY CAN'T FLY will decline their entire little Blockade project, since the main reason they do any worth in their "wpvp" is because they always fly away and be pussies about it. They can't do that. They'll be ran over.

They're what? 3 "wpvp" guilds versus EVERY ALLIANCE PLAYER WHO INTENDS TO LEVEL THAT DAY. It's quite a difference in numbers. 'Cause I imagine many Horde players will be about their business trying to level and experience the new expansion.

by **Vaell** Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:00 pm

Tbh, levelling in Dungeons is available and also, no flying till 90 - it won't be that bad Wink

by **Raenmar** Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:02 pm

Horde players will be levelling. Large organized raidgroups of Horde will be fighting.

Alliance players will be levelling. Will large organized groups of Alliance be fighting?

There will be players from both factions in the zones. There will be more organized Horde players.

Tbh, levelling in Dungeons is available and also, no flying till 90 - it won't be that bad

So everyone pays for MoP just to do the dungeons? Neutral

But the no flying isn't a good thing. We can't get away from them. They can easily get to and camp quest hubs.

by Guest Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:02 pm

Also what

Asvaldr wrote:I agree, although PvP is usually frowned upon, it would be awesome if the Alliance banded together and marched upon Pandaria in some sort of mini army, have yourself commanders of the force, rangers, scouts, light users and footmen.
Greeted by horde and dreams of victory in a foreign land! In term making the people trying to ruin RP, forcefully RP without even knowing and making a good event haha!

Shame I'm a Crusader though, a Neutral force, may move another character over here if such an event is implemented though! Would be fun and productive!

This is not the case. At all.

by **Raenmar** Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:03 pm

Clearly.

by **Lini** Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:04 pm

Raenmar wrote: They can easily get to and camp quest hubs.

I checked the alliance starting town in Jade Forest literally minutes ago. I was attacked by level 90 elite guards with over 2mil HP that dismount you with ranged attacks.

by **Raenmar** Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:05 pm

I checked the alliance starting town in Jade Forest literally minutes ago. I was attacked by level 90 elite guards with over 2mil HP that dismount you with ranged attacks.

On a PvP server?

by **Kettin** Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:10 pm

*Stealths*

by **Ralegh** Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:26 pm

Raenmar wrote:
http://www.defiasrp.com/t5412-the-ganking-issues-with-the-aboc-guild-or-whatever-they-re-called

http://www.defiasrp.com/t5282-community-griefing-influx

http://www.defiasrp.com/t5185-gilneas-current-state

Agreed, there are way to many threads bitching about this bullshit allready.

by Guest Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:26 pm

Ezlbag wrote:
Raenmar wrote:
http://www.defiasrp.com/t5412-the-ganking-issues-with-the-aboc-guild-or-whatever-they-re-called

http://www.defiasrp.com/t5282-community-griefing-influx

http://www.defiasrp.com/t5185-gilneas-current-state
Agreed, there are way to many threads bitching about this bullshit allready.

hahahah Yes!

by **Lini** Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:29 pm

Raenmar wrote:
I checked the alliance starting town in Jade Forest literally minutes ago. I was attacked by level 90 elite guards with over 2mil HP that dismount you with ranged attacks.

On a PvP server?

Yes. They hit for 35k.

by **Raenmar** Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:30 pm

Nobody's bitching, and those threads are unrelated to this.

by **Ralegh** Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:36 pm

Raenmar wrote:Nobody's bitching, and those threads are unrelated to this.

If they are unrelated, why bring them into the discussion?
It wont be as bad as you think.

by **Aldric Essalus Helmfrid** Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:45 pm

Regardless if it'll be bad or not it saddens me to see so many of you instantly looking for a way out. Such as advising to do instanced levelling such as dungeons, scenarios and bg's. I thought people here had a bit more spirit when it came to PvP.. seeing as we rolled on a PvP server yet all I see is giving up before we even try.

It sucks.. And I'm ashamed.

There are a few here though who I believe hold the right attitude. What's the problem folks? Why do you feel the need to cower away?

By the way, you need to discover a new instance portal in the world before you can que for it. You need to accept the quest before you can que for a scenario. So this hiding from the Horde business won't work unless you're a stealther.

Jesus just gear up and fight them off, it'll be fun and will be memorable...

by **Raenmar** Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:47 pm

If they are unrelated, why bring them into the discussion?

They were related to the post I was replying to.

by **Lini** Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:14 pm

Helmfrid wrote:Regardless if it'll be bad or not it saddens me to see so many of you instantly looking for a way out. Such as advising to do instanced levelling such as dungeons, scenarios and bg's. I thought people here had a bit more spirit when it came to PvP.. seeing as we rolled on a PvP server yet all I see is giving up before we even try.

It sucks.. And I'm ashamed.

There are a few here though who I believe hold the right attitude. What's the problem folks? Why do you feel the need to cower away?

By the way, you need to discover a new instance portal in the world before you can que for it. You need to accept the quest before you can que for a scenario. So this hiding from the Horde business won't work unless you're a stealther.

Jesus just gear up and fight them off, it'll be fun and will be memorable...

I might agree with you if this was some organised w-pvp event but as things are I really don't feel like giving horde the w-pvp they so desire.

But since I'll be leveling a monk once the realms go up this won't really affect me. I mean, if they're still at it after the few days it takes me to get to 85 I'll just get to 86 with instance runs and then continue to level as if nothing had happened.

by **Coppersocket** Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:18 pm

This topic is idiotic, Raenmar can clearly not see that three guilds cant stop the entire Alliance from leveling, not gonna happen bro.

The fact that you even believe this, is just stupid, seriously. It's fucking stupid. The way you cry about it, is even more stupid.

The expansion hasn't released yet and you act like it's the fucking Armageddon. It ain't, it won't be, and your fears won't come true. Fucking hell, look at how Hellfire was when it came out, sure there was PVP but it wasn't at a grand scale of everyone of one faction getting camped over and over, if someone was about to get ganked, any nearby members of that faction would run in and aid to get free honor. Any resistance will be run over like a person getting run over by a train.

You seriously overestimate the capabilities and the dedication these people put into it. They want to get to 90 too, they're not gonna sit around ganking an entire zone, especially not when they realize that people will quickly outgear them with the new gear, and the sheer amount of people in said area.

"Horde" won't be locking down any zone, neither will Alliance, it'll have conflicts, sure, but that's part of the expansion.

The Alliance isn't built up by you and your 10 buddies, neither is Horde built up by ABoC alone.

This thread man, this thread.

I'd love to see 3 guilds being able to put an entire faction to a halt.

by **Robi Kaezlan** Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:27 pm

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more,
Or close the wall up with our Alliance dead!
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility,
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger:
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favored rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect:
Let it pry through the portage of the head...

oops wrong drama....

honestly youre all whining like a bunch of old women at a bus stop.

by Guest Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:44 pm

It's a case of the Wolf that cried Belf.

by **Raenmar** Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:56 pm

The fact that you even believe this, is just stupid, seriously. It's fucking stupid. The way you cry about it, is even more stupid.

The fact that you're blatantly ignoring it when it's completely obvious is stupid. Nobody is crying about it except the people who can't bear the thought of PvPing on an RPPvP realm. I really don't give a fuck if you're going to help or not, but the fucking ignorance and arrogance shown when faced with anything in regards to Aboc is pathetic.

If you think I'm talking shit then get out of the thread and let it serve the purpose it was made for.

by Guest Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:00 pm

You're the one ignoring what people are saying lol

by **Skarain** Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:01 pm

Arli wrote:Alliance - Be prepared, some wpvp guilds will be killing Alliance. know what? Some non-wpvp guilds will too, and randoms in levelling guilds, raiders, casuals, your mum etc.

Horde: Ditto.

Now can we stop all this "the sky is falling!" drama?

Arli nailed it. I will be geared, i will be prepared and i will enjoy every moment of the PvP. Welcome back, World of WARcraft.

*Leaves thread*

by **Thrakha** Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:06 pm

I don't think we need to get too scared, but I think there's a sufficient concern here to make it worthwhile grouping up for questing, and being cautious.

The way in which WoW PVP works does, unfortunately, mean that area denial by a group of determined campers can and does work. In particular, the Resilience mechanic means that levelling gear will leave you catastrophically vulnerable compared to dedicated gankers.

On one of my previous servers, when Cata came out, large parts of Hyjal were made virtually inaccessible to the Horde for about three days straight due to a particularly obnoxious bunch who seemed to be working in shifts.

I can assure you that if any of my own Horde guild are found engaging in broad area-denial activity of this sort over a protracted timespan, we'll be having serious words about whether they have a future with us.

by **Robi Kaezlan** Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:07 pm

The Alliance isn't built up by you and your 10 buddies, neither is Horde built up by ABoC alone.

just about sums it up.

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