Hypothetical question, changes and where?

Nihilia wrote:

Vaell wrote:
So why do so many guys RP mainly women?

i remember when making nihilia that i really wanted to be a draenei, due the alien culture and all, but despited the asburdly HUGE male model, so i went with the more thin female. they still have exaggerated features, but i found it a little more relistic. if only i could, i would make my draenei a lot more humble.

but yah, that's why i make my draenei all females, mostly.

That makes no sense! If anything, the females are less realistic to the race because we only ever saw males in WC3 Frozen Throne.

Vaell wrote:

Nihilia wrote:

Vaell wrote:
So why do so many guys RP mainly women?

i remember when making nihilia that i really wanted to be a draenei, due the alien culture and all, but despited the asburdly HUGE male model, so i went with the more thin female. they still have exaggerated features, but i found it a little more relistic. if only i could, i would make my draenei a lot more humble.

but yah, that's why i make my draenei all females, mostly.

That makes no sense! If anything, the females are less realistic to the race because we only ever saw males in WC3 Frozen Throne.

it's a matter of perception, i guess i still haven't played the frozen throne but i guess we can consider the females as having existed all along, but let's just say i don't like the huuuge blue hulk, even tho females are a bit overgrown themselves, atleast they don't have a mountain for shoulder!

Vaell wrote:I personally think that ERP is weird, I'm here to tell/share stories - not masturbate.

Masturbating while ERPing is a lot more effort than would be worth it, typically. If you have access to WoW, you have access to regular porn if you're literally just doing it to wank.

Vaell wrote:I just can't believe people use the excuse that people do it to improve the story yet type all the thrusting details.

Why do people do any RP in detail, though? If it's "weird" to RP in great detail, am I wrong to handle Magic RP (especially healing and extensive rituals) in excruciating detail? Or does this only apply to sex, because that seems like a juvenile sentiment.

Vaell wrote:So why do so many guys RP mainly women?

Personal preference. Same reason I don't tend to play human characters, or Horde ones.

ERP is only ok if good looking people do it.

Also, what if mograine died, who would lead zee dks?

Lexgrad wrote:Also, what if mograine died, who would lead zee dks?

Drustai, obviously. She's the only competent one around.

who is sadly wanted for death by all main aliance   she carnt lead no deathknights if she is wanted dead     I feel sorry for her

Any DK is better to lead than Dru. Besides, She is unlucky.

Sanara wrote:

Lexgrad wrote:Also, what if mograine died, who would lead zee dks?

Drustai, obviously. She's the only competent one around.

Nah. We got people like Eidan and Lavian around. I'm sure one of them could do a good job!

I'm here if people like cycles. And cryptic language.

Drustai wrote:Nah. We got people like Eidan and Lavian around. I'm sure one of them could do a good job!

Eidan. Worst DK ever. XD

Lexgrad for DK pope!

But srsly... It should logically be the elf mount vendor, I know the name of him, just no point telling it, he has no lore at all.

Crok Scourgebane would be a change of pace. A badass DK's DK. Thassarian if he would stop with the silly alliance crap too.

"Silly alliance crap"?. Erm, what? If anything he's signifying what a good DK is in terms of serving a militiristic purpose in the ideals of progressing the alliance unless his lore has changed lately and I havn't heard of it.

He's moved on and gave himself a purpose. Good on him.

XD tbh he is kinda rogue atm, going after Koltira.

Also, what if mograine died, who would lead zee dks?

Gor'Thrak, obviously. You people are so silly, only taking Alliance DKs into consideration!

Well this got blown out of proportion.

Perhaps back on track to the topic at hand? Most of my recommendations would agree with Thelos's original points but I'll briefly summarize them anyway.

1) Forsaken & Blood Elves would have their own "Nazi-Soviet" pact thing going in EK and not be Allied to the Horde [until the dreaded Alliance invasions began]. Both factions would probably be relatively closed off from the world, interacting with each other on a needing/requirement basis.

2) The Night Elves and Tauren would not be in their respective factions, but in a coalition such as the Circle of Cenarius except extended upon both their peoples. They would still trade, and exchange with the members of their respective factions but not assist them in their times of war, therefore somewhat limiting each faction both continent wise, and expansionist wise.

3) The factions don't unite against "common evils" and reap the results for it, both factions are massively weak and unstable with inter-wars and civil discontent due to the constant attacks by the outer enemies.

4) Arthas isn't a fucking pussy bitch ass with feelings who 'maintains' the Scourge. He brings a new apocalypse onto the world and flattens the cities, this is the first time each faction comes together because otherwise they get fucked up completely.

5) No dark portal, remains closed.

6) Arathi Highlands [post-Lich King era] are conquered by the Forsaken and a stalemate is on the Thandol Span, splitting the continent in two. The only point of resistance to now Horde dominance is in Aerie Peak.

7) Alterac Valley falls to the Horde and is closed as a BG due to the assistance of the Sindorei and the Forsaken [after their induction into the Horde post-LK].

8)Arathi BAsin falls to the Horde and is closed as a BG due to the assistance of the Sindorei and the Forsaken [after their induction into the Horde post-LK]

9) Thandol Span / Wetlands is given a new BG. Naval BG [includes boarding and controlling of cannons on a ship, as well as control of a ship] is created around the area between Thandol Span/Gilneas/Hillsbrad as the Forsaken use Southshore to launch ships against Khaz Modan.

For now that is all.

Closing battlegrounds is something I would like to see. It's a very fluid way to advance the story - although most players will hate it, because they never like it when you take something away from them. Twin Peaks and Battle of Gilneas ought to have replaced Warsong Gulch and Arathi Basin respectively, but they ended up keeping the latter two anyway, because what good sense is it to waste perfectly good content when it adds to the variety of battleground experiences? From a purely gameplay point of view - ignoring the issues with immersion and lore - I can only find myself agreeing with this decision to keep them. I'm torn.

Kittrina wrote:The only ones that are decent of the 'alien'/monsterous race imho are trolls and orcs.

Just saw this image and was reminded of this topic:



It's an elf with tiny tusks!

Always thought female trolls were a bit boring compared to their male counterparts. Which is why I'd only ever make male ones unless I had some very good reason not to.

I'll not lie, but the first thing that fell into my eyes were those ( ( in the middle of the drawing. Well ok maybe the second or the third thing, but yeah point gotten.

A poor rendered pair of bazonkas if I ever saw one.

While on the topic of females and such, here is the alpha version of the troll females.


And they were subsequently changed for reasons one can only speculate about.

Cos ugly XD

I'm guessing I'm in the minority, when I say that looks pretty awesome?

Anivitas wrote:I'm guessing I'm in the minority, when I say that looks pretty awesome?

Honestly I think it kinda looks like crap, but with that said I would rather have that than the "pretty girl with tusks" that we ended up with.

Maybe some kinda in-between would have been ideal.

At least the current model has a strong identity of it's own, not looking like a crappy knockoff of the male model. I think the troll female is rather charming, one of the better girl models.

erwtenpeller wrote:At least the current model has a strong identity of it's own, not looking like a crappy knockoff of the male model. I think the troll female is rather charming, one of the better girl models.

I wouldn't call it a crappy knock off, considering they are the same race, looking the same wouldn't really be out the ordinary. That said I've got no problem with the current troll model. It's still good. I just find the above one quite interesting.

Sanara wrote:

Anivitas wrote:I'm guessing I'm in the minority, when I say that looks pretty awesome?

Honestly I think it kinda looks like crap, but with that said I would rather have that than the "pretty girl with tusks" that we ended up with.

Maybe some kinda in-between would have been ideal.

Would like to see what an in-between would actually look like.