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Post by Ephitos / Amarachus Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:11 pm

This is kind of specific, but I think I need it.
I'd like to change the eye glow of my death knight to say green, can GHI do this or is too specific a change?
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Post by Magaskawee/Anaei Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:12 pm

No. Unless you do a buff GHI cannot make ANY aesthetic changes.
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Post by Ephitos / Amarachus Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:13 pm

Oh that's what I meant, using GHI it is possible?

^ The above makes no sense.
So if I have a buff there is some way to give off a green glow instead of a blue? This would be excellent for my characters story about his return from Northrend & corruption.. and also the fact that he's second generation.
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Post by Drustai Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:22 pm

You'd need to use a skin or model altering mod for that (such mods exist already). Only you would see it, though, unless others DLed it too.

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Post by Ephitos / Amarachus Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:23 pm

Drustai wrote:You'd need to use a skin or model altering mod for that (such mods exist already). Only you would see it, though, unless others DLed it too.


Darn, I really want to get green eyes! Time to look into this.. I have a way of experimenting. To the laptop!
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Post by Feydor Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:31 pm

Although I have never tried changing this for death knights, it will be done in either one of two ways.

The first is editing the .blp relating to the face that your character uses. Check through them and you'll find them, and change the eye colour there. However this probably isn't the case.

What more likely is, that the humanmale .m2 file has values regarding the floating particle effect (the glow of the eyes). Using a hex editor one will be able to remove, or edit the colour of this.

Infact, upon thinking about it and drawing from memory, I believe that in the .m2 file for a human male there'll be a value for a texture type which will relate to the file charsections.dbc and a seperate file for the eye glow. Thats what its like with night elves anyway.

Edit: Thinking through this again it appears I have thought too deep into it. I've been thinking about giving a non-DK char a custom eye glow. I forgot you were a deathknight already.
Simple solution: edit the file Character\Human\Male\deathKnightEyeGlow.blp
the mpq system and layout have changed alot in cata so it may be hard to find.


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Post by Ephitos / Amarachus Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:32 pm

Thanks man! I'm going to copy your instructions into word for further use Very Happy!
Thanks, if I get this working you can has cookiez.
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Post by Magaskawee/Anaei Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:42 pm

Ephitos / Amarachus wrote:Thanks man! I'm going to copy your instructions into word for further use Very Happy!
Thanks, if I get this working you can has cookiez.

You know if this works it's A) Against the rules of the game. B) No one else will see it.
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Post by Ephitos / Amarachus Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:43 pm

Hey, how come it's against the rules?
The cookies or the eyes?

Edit:
Is it because I'm modifying the way the toon looks?
If I placed into the flag-rsp the whole "All Rights Reserved" ?
But seriously is it against the rules?
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Post by Kil'drakor Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:18 pm

It's against the rules because it's explicitly stated in the terms of agreement that altering game files is prohibited.

As for the why part, only Blizzard can answer that one.

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Post by teirzul Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:21 pm

terms of use is for an unmodified Game Client. if you modifie a game file then your not allowed access to the severs ( terms of use )
i belive is the main part
2. Grant of a Limited License to Use the Service. Subject to your agreement to and continuing compliance with the Blizzard Agreements, Blizzard Entertainment hereby grants, and you hereby accept, a limited, revocable, non-transferable, non-sublicensable, non-exclusive license to use the Service solely for your own non-commercial entertainment purposes by accessing it with an authorized, unmodified Game Client. You may not use the Service for any other purpose, or in connection with any other software.
(taken from http://www.wow-europe.com/en/legal/termsofuse.html )
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:21 pm

Invisurira(the very first paladin tank) alters his gear aesthetically, so there is a way, but only he can see it, he uses it for when he makes vids for youtube.

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Post by Drustai Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:29 pm

I've used skin (and occasionally model) altering mods before, never had a problem with it. As long as you're not using it to exploit, the devs aren't going to bother you.
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Post by Magaskawee/Anaei Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:38 pm

Drustai wrote:I've used skin (and occasionally model) altering mods before, never had a problem with it. As long as you're not using it to exploit, the devs aren't going to bother you.

It's because they do not openly look for it. It's still against the rules and when they find you've been altering with the game files (any way they find) they treat it like an exploit to achieve something unachieveable without altering the game. Which is cheating. So they smack down hard. I'm not saying all this to be a spoil sport, I just don't want people doing things thinking nthey weren't warned.
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Post by Feydor Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:30 am

Anaei/Vezullia wrote:
Drustai wrote:I've used skin (and occasionally model) altering mods before, never had a problem with it. As long as you're not using it to exploit, the devs aren't going to bother you.

It's because they do not openly look for it. It's still against the rules and when they find you've been altering with the game files (any way they find) they treat it like an exploit to achieve something unachieveable without altering the game. Which is cheating. So they smack down hard. I'm not saying all this to be a spoil sport, I just don't want people doing things thinking nthey weren't warned.

Blizzard have never in the past actively searched for model/skin edits and then banned the user for doing so. You get banned for using stuff like this is if its used to gain an unfair advantage over another player or access a location that you shouldn't be allowed to go to, and then getting reported for doing so. I have had plenty of experience with this, and I know a lot of people who have plenty of experience with it and this is the general consensus.
Shit like changing the glow of your eyes is not going to lead to anything, especially if you don't go around bragging.
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Post by Ephitos / Amarachus Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:41 am

If I get banned, Feydor owes me an all you can eat buffet including Trolls, Gnomes and Deathwing potatoe chips.

Otherwise, I will try do it, and if other people in GHI can see it, then hurray , if not, I'l just jot it down into a flag rsp.
Thanks for the suggestions <3
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Post by Feydor Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:43 am

GHI has got fuck all to do with altering anything other than the interface. Thus, no one else but you will be able to see a different glow of your eye. ;P
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Post by Ephitos / Amarachus Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:51 am

Feydor wrote:GHI has got fuck all to do with altering anything other than the interface. Thus, no one else but you will be able to see a different glow of your eye. ;P

I doubt I will get banned, the Blizzard team is a bit more reasonable than to go "Oh my god, his eyes glow differently on his screen, he can see through walls, Son of a Bi-- BAN!"...
Hopefully that's not how it works... Smile
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Post by Zhakiri Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:56 am

If you manipulated the files, then yes, they would ban you. It's against the terms and conditions, that you no doubt ignore every time a patch hits.

(I assume.)

Using GHI or somesuch, meh, that's fine, but don't expect everyone to always take notice. -Just my five copper.
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Post by Ephitos / Amarachus Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:59 am

I'l hope for the best,
Your lil video there,
Wanted is a great film. I'v watched it six or seven times maybe, sheer epic.
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Post by Torukan Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:11 am

This has already been explained at blizzcon:

Scourge = Blue
Demons and Demon corruption = Red
Fel magic = Green

There is no reason for you to have green eyes at ALL

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Post by Ephitos / Amarachus Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:13 am

Thalgun wrote:This has already been explained at blizzcon:

Scourge = Blue
Demons and Demon corruption = Red
Fel magic = Green

There is no reason for you to have green eyes at ALL

/thread

How about you read what I said earlier because you seem to have read the first post I have said, and then just commented.

As previously stated, Ephitos = Corrupted by his lil' trip to Northrend + He is a 2nd Generation Death Knight, hence Green eyes, and I can explain that lorewise too, you want a full explanation?
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Post by Torukan Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:18 am

2nd generation is the scourge death knight, 1st is the old horde death knight

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Post by Ephitos / Amarachus Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:19 am

Thalgun wrote:2nd generation is the scourge death knight, 1st is the old horde death knight

I know Smile
But some scourge death knights, aka the trainers joined the Ebon Hold with Mograine, and by my characters story that's what happened..
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