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Post by Littlepip Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:17 am

Fist of all I want to say that I don't erp, did it only once and.. Yeah.. Not really something for me.

For those who don't know ERP means Erotic Roleplay, meaning that they have sex in character, They say all the details and they moan.
Since I em not really into it I will stop explaining it in details here before I make people *facedesk* or *facepalm*. Embarassed

Any way, I have noticed a slight problem on this server that is very similar to Racism, Some people think that Erpers don't know how to RP. -.-

Really, why do you think that? Do you have proof on that fact? Erpers are just as good as other Roleplayers, they might even be better.
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Post by Cathee Norris Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:27 am

As far as I know, its actually against the rules and inappropriate considering its a 12+ game. At least that's what I understood when reading this:

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2151656256

Might be a reason why some people have heated opinions about the issue. There are after all, a lot of parents playing the game too, with their kids in game (or just kids playing the game of course). What people do in whispers or in parties though is really none of my business, and I'm not sure what Blizzards opinions are of that but hey.
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Post by Grim Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:28 am

Because if you're going to wank, just do it over porn and don't try to gloss it over as 'sexual roleplay'.

Pffft.
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Post by Raene Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:48 am

As an outspoken ERPer, I'm just going to open with this. Fuck the haters.

Honestly, sexuality is just another facet of RP. Lust, Love, Romance, and Passion are just aspects of RP that your character may or may not come across in their adventure. Skipping out on this aspect would not seem right to me as an RPer, as I'm not truly expanding my characters story if I decide to deliberately cut out one thing based on some ESRB guideline.

Raene longs for a child, her desperation for her own offspring has led to some quite emotional scenes where after consumating with her partner, she's either broke down afterwards out of nervousness wondering if "this is the one", or beaming afterwards clutching her stomach and not only feeling good about the act, but feeling positive about her chances of conceiving.

Aelrath is a sheltered and sexually inept girl who still does not understand her own sexual health. She's tried branching out, trying to understand why everyone else praises sex whilst she finds its "Gross and Icky" and her developments have been humorous to say the least. The awkward movements, the childlike curiousity, and the numerous times people have tried explaining sexual acts to her... Bloody hell, Alph'el would be a very lucky boy if only she plucked up her nerve to act on the advice shes been given.

Senariul finally, is a flatterer who used to pride himself on his sexual conquers. A skirt chaser through and through, and that was interesting to RP in itself. Flattery, compliments, earning the wrath of peoples boyfriends/girlfriends, what happens when idle play goes too far and you find yourself in love before you know it. All interesting concepts to RP out imo.

Now if wanting to RP these 'aspects' that make up my characters makes me a "Durp RPer", then so be it, I'm a durp RPer. Least I'm having fun exploring my characters in every manner possible.

((That being said, I'm not a fan of ERP for the sake of OOC sexual thrill. Sure, letting the ideas of your combined writing get into your head may sometimes be arousing, but that's where I believe it should end.))
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Post by erwtenpeller Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:51 am

I'm quite fond of a bit of eroticism every now and then. As long as my characters don't start rubbing their genitals against people in public, I don't see why that would have to be a problem. Smile
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Post by Littlepip Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:51 am

Saihna wrote:Might be a reason why some people have heated opinions about the issue. There are after all, a lot of parents playing the game too, with their kids in game (or just kids playing the game of course). What people do in whispers or in parties though is really none of my business, and I'm not sure what Blizzards opinions are of that but hey.

Recommend doing it in Party or Whisper.. Not in Emote. Imagen walking past a house or two people on the graveyard, when suddenly you start reading about someone moaning or.. Doing their stuff xD
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Post by erwtenpeller Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:55 am

I -love- catching people in the act. It's so funny to go mess with them.
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Post by Cathee Norris Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:55 am

Yes that is absolutely not alright, as said considering its a 12+ game. From my own point of view I mean I don't care what others do in private. But Blizzard might have another thought on that, I don't know. Maybe you should ask on the realm forums what they do say in the matter, both for the public and private part.
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Post by Raene Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:00 am

I can almost guarantee it won't receive an answer Saihna. Publicly, they'd be forced to condemn it, and condemning things that only affect a very tiny minority in their own privacy is not worth the time it takes to post the condemning. They can't turn around and say it is acceptable either, as no doubt the minute Fox News (or things like it) will put their own spin on it, and it will just be bad rep. They'd ignore it, for better or worse.

That being said, catching people in the act is another thing I -love- about ERP. Sure, my emotes usually go in /p or /w, but if I'm discovered, and the person acts in an IC manner, then I'll react in an IC manner.

Senariul wrote:I'm not truly expanding my characters story if I decide to deliberately cut out one thing

And that includes the embarassment (or lack thereof) of being caught with your pixellated pants by your ankles.
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Post by Littlepip Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:00 am

erwtenpeller wrote:I'm quite fond of a bit of eroticism every now and then. As long as my characters don't start rubbing their genitals against people in public, I don't see why that would have to be a problem. Smile

Laughed so hard right there! What in the world is going on in Silvermoon city right now! xD

More people Mooning there then in Darnassus.
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Post by Littlepip Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:15 am

Any way, I have made my point, just because you ERP dosn't mean you suck in roleplay, nor is it to be shunned at.

Those who ERP just likes to delve deeper into the depths of Roleplay just like someone delve deeper into the knowledge of Arcane it is not to be shunned at, it should rather be.. *Begins to laugh trough the rest of the sentence.* Embraced, hugged and.. humped!

*Starts to roll on the floor, laughing my ass of like this guy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cmTGGpb5_Cw#t=17s.*


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Post by siegmund Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:15 am

ERP is frowned upon and if you go out and do it, sure fine by me. But it's the time when you go around and advertise it or just do it in the open and so on.

Another note it's kind of under the no-no by Blizz (Actual rule for it). It's a thing best kept to yourself at the end of the day. It's not a crime if you're not caught is a saying in many things. There are Dungeons/whispers/party if already.

But people don't want it in the open and having it advertised. Look at Goldsire on AD or other realms or so. If a person keeps repeating in a open chat "Erpers are just as good as other Roleplayers, they might even be better." it doesn't persuade anyone, even if most don't care.

Plus the person of the little fiasco that happened has some medical issues. Now i don't blame anything, but many did help and give tips, even me. But the person just doesn't get any of it and made for some strange whispers at times as well...

If one would know what ERP is about and know the Rules one would not go out and be all open about it to everyone on public chats, since it caused discomfort to others.



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Post by erwtenpeller Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:15 am

Martha Duskbringer wrote:
erwtenpeller wrote:I'm quite fond of a bit of eroticism every now and then. As long as my characters don't start rubbing their genitals against people in public, I don't see why that would have to be a problem. Smile

Laughed so hard right there! What in the world is going on in Silvermoon city right now! xD

More people Mooning there then in Darnassus.

Actually, my goblin version of Delidah was known to stick her face into exposed Blood Elf ladies cleavage, but that was more of a satirical comment on their equipped gear then it was an attempt at eroticism. Ha.



I always like to make a distinction between "ERP" (Erotic Role-Play) and "Cybering" (Cyber Sex).

What I mean by "Erotic Role-Play" is that you are role-playing your character as you normally would, it just happens to find itself in an erotically charged situation.

What I mean by "Cyber Sex" is that you actively create erotic situations an scenarios, for the sexual satisfaction rather then the continuation of your story.

Big fan of the first, not so much of the second.


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Post by Raene Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:22 am

I actually want to find someone against ERP, so I could understand this hidden dislike of it. From what I've seen on this forum, those who are against ERP are those who are against Cybering, and the majority doesn't seem to actually mind ERP (If not partakes in it themselves)
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Post by siegmund Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:27 am

Got to agree with Erwtenpeller, chars are all they want to be romatic and all stuff, hugs are often and it can lead up to interesting situations that are just to laugh at and you don't need anything more than hug or kiss or sassy comment or even more, but it's about your char not you.

The other day was a funny situation, Sieg and his Elven Officer Mild were talking, then:
*Guard comes up and notices Siegmunds mask on his belt, shaped in a skull*
Guard sassy pants: "I hope you won't wear that in public!" (No masks in cities)
Sieg: "What about on costume parties?"
Guard sassy pants: "I don't care what you do at orgies, just don't wear it in public."
Sieg yells after: "Well if i would attend one i'd not invite you!"

And somehow after the guard left it turned into a convo his officer asked him what would his wife think of him if he'd atend them and Sieg asking his elven officer if their race do orgies.


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Post by erwtenpeller Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:29 am

They do, but only lesbian ones.
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Post by Raene Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:31 am

Not true. I can testify otherwise.
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Post by Vaell Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:35 am

Grim wrote:Because if you're going to wank, just do it over porn and don't try to gloss it over as 'sexual roleplay'.

Pffft.
I've got to agree with Grim in this sense. I do see a lot of people who try and explain how much RP depth you can get from characters doing it but I find that mostly comes from the build up to sex and the aftermath, not the actual sex. Just because you describe yourself shyly thrusting doesn't mean you're adding character! Take Game of Thrones for example: Tyrion and Shae have one of the best sexual relationships and we barely see them do anything. The sex scenes we do see are only there to arouse the audience (A common HBO trait!)

What you do in private is your own business; I just don't like people who say it is 100% character and 0% RL arousal, I mean... Come on.

P.S, people who are against it are not as bad as racists, that's a ridiculous comparison!
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Post by erwtenpeller Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:37 am

Vaell wrote:I find that mostly comes from the build up to sex and the aftermath, not the actual sex.
And that is not erotic? silent
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Post by Vaell Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:44 am

erwtenpeller wrote:
Vaell wrote:I find that mostly comes from the build up to sex and the aftermath, not the actual sex.
And that is not erotic? silent
I suppose but I didn't know if that fit the term! I RP out a build up to imply my character has gone off to have sex. I just don't RP the sex.
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Post by Buren Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:44 am

First, I havent read all the responses so forgive me if I repeat what others have already said!

ERP is generally frowned upon. However as of late I've seen more people accepting it or even confessing that they are or have done it. Personally I dont mind ERPing, I have to admit I could even do it myself if one of my characters end up in that corner of this world. I still think they should be more discreet about it. But in the end of the day they are just RPers like the rest of us and I see no reason what so ever to bully and discriminate them for what they like to do. Although is it really hate or just trying to remain in the "pro" group. It's stupid to "hate" them either way, they dont do anything bad.

Then again.. I can agree with the fact that this is a 12+ game. Which also adds to the fact that if they want to ERP, then they shouldnt do it publicly and try to be as discreet as possible for searching for a "mate". Plus, if they want to find an ERP buddy, I suggest this site or /join darknest in-game.

SO, ERP is Durp? Absolutely not! As a matter of fact the average quality of the "real hardcore" ERPers is as good as. No, actually way above us, the "normal" RPers. I can state this from own experience, of course that doesnt mean that there arent some horrible ones. As for the ERP itself, I've already said I got nothing against it and to be honest how much different is it from "real" RP. Its the same, the only difference is the theme, much alike "social" or "military". But we dont go flame them, do we?

I hope I dont sound agressive in any way, I just wanted to make my point somewhat clear.
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Post by Raene Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:49 am

I assure you Vaell, just like with real people, each of my characters have a different behaviour between the sheets. That and well... if your own sex life IRL is just thrust based, I feel very sorry for you.

The act can be as varied and as customisable as the foreplay and aftermath Vaell. Hands, Mouth, Props, Communication. It all adds to the story you're building.

Still, I agree to a point... If the writing becomes dull by it turning into just thrust based then I bring it to a close. There's no way I'm rewriting the same line fifty times over with slight variations to describe what my character is doing.
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Post by Xen-tau Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:50 am

As hot I get with all this sex talk, I don't think that the ERP itself is the issue here.

It's the issue of enjoying such erotic endeavours, and being a terrible roleplayer because of it.

No, I don't think people are, with the exception that it's somehow an (obvious) OOC need instead of a IC one. I feel it's one of the reasons alot of people switch IC relationships that often and are... mushy in public.

I don't say I hold the truth, far from. But I do think it's a trait from Aishling that she hasn't had a relationship for quite a while now, and she's not actively searching for it, and my Pandaren are the happy single/happy relationship types. They will see whatever happens.... unless food is ERP for Pandaren...

EDIT: Buren replied earlier.
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:00 am

I remember when the Arathorians were breeding faster than rabbits.

The days.

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:03 am

You want to ERP then instance it so the rest of us don't have to hear it - like irl, few go screw openly in the park or so loud at an Inn that the bar downstairs can hear (as is the case in game unfortunately).

Plus - really important here - make sure you only ERP with those you know for sure are over the age of consent because it's unfair on the kid and on their parents who are doing their best to protect their kids from such online activity.

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