Re: The Olympics 2012

by **Lyniath** Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:57 am

Anyone notice how during the sailing events, the commentator never called anyone except the British guy (forget his name, he won it) by their name? Like he kept saying "the dutch sailor" or "the danish man" and such.

Also, a bit much with calling him "THE GREATEST SAILOR WHO EVER LIVED". Let's just forget all those great explorers then

by **Kristeas Sunbinder** Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:01 am

Lyniath wrote:Anyone notice how during the sailing events, the commentator never called anyone except the British guy (forget his name, he won it) by their name? Like he kept saying "the dutch sailor" or "the danish man" and such.

Also, a bit much with calling him "THE GREATEST SAILOR WHO EVER LIVED". Let's just forget all those great explorers then

Watch the olympics in a different language?

by **Dréfurion** Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:42 am

Kristeas Sunbinder wrote:
Lyniath wrote:Anyone notice how during the sailing events, the commentator never called anyone except the British guy (forget his name, he won it) by their name? Like he kept saying "the dutch sailor" or "the danish man" and such.

Also, a bit much with calling him "THE GREATEST SAILOR WHO EVER LIVED". Let's just forget all those great explorers then

Watch the olympics in a different language?

She's british, they only speak english (no offense)... I will agree that the BBC commentators are a little.. irky at times now that GB is finally winning things. Sticking a feather in your own arse is cool yo, but you don't have to pluck an entire chicken bald and stick all those feathers in your bum

by **Lorainne/Bridlington** Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:45 am

Drefurion wrote:
Kristeas Sunbinder wrote:
Lyniath wrote:Anyone notice how during the sailing events, the commentator never called anyone except the British guy (forget his name, he won it) by their name? Like he kept saying "the dutch sailor" or "the danish man" and such.

Also, a bit much with calling him "THE GREATEST SAILOR WHO EVER LIVED". Let's just forget all those great explorers then

Watch the olympics in a different language?

She's british, they only speak english (no offense)... I will agree that the BBC commentators are a little.. irky at times now that GB is finally winning things. Sticking a feather in your own arse is cool yo, but you don't have to pluck an entire chicken bald and stick all those feathers in your bum

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by **Ralegh** Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:47 am

YEEEEEEEEEEEES! FUCKA YOU BRASIL! WE BEAT YOU! WOOOOOOOOOO!

by **Vaell** Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:29 am

Yeah, Britain is bigging themselves up but you shouldn't worry, we only do it because we're so amazing! I mean, look at the medals compared to our population...!

by **Lyniath** Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:55 am

The real problem is it's making us sound quite pathetic; if the moment we start winning stuff it's not enough, they have to be "the GREATEST X EVER" or "QUEEN OF THE OLYMPICS". A gold medal is a big deal, be happy with just that, don't try and big it up even further.

by **Grufftoof** Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:02 pm

Vaell wrote:Yeah, Britain is bigging themselves up but you shouldn't worry, we only do it because we're so amazing! I mean, look at the medals compared to our population...!

Sod the nation. It's all about God's Own County. At one point riding high at 7th in the medal table. Now 12th. I think. But obviously only if YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORKSHIRE was a separate country.

by **Lyniath** Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:36 pm

Oh, for christ's sake.
Windsurfing: After the match, they spend the entire time following Dempsey and his amazing silver medal and thanking all the crowd. The dutch gold medal winner isn't even NAMED, they just show a 5 second clip of "the guy from the Netherlands who won a gold."
Commentary on the sea events has been appallingly bad.

by **Vaell** Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:50 pm

Lyniath wrote:The real problem is it's making us sound quite pathetic; if the moment we start winning stuff it's not enough, they have to be "the GREATEST X EVER" or "QUEEN OF THE OLYMPICS". A gold medal is a big deal, be happy with just that, don't try and big it up even further.

Ben Ainslie is the only Sailor to have won four consecutive gold medals in sailing. He isn't the "best sailor of all time!" That is commentating. If you've ever watched sport, they get enthusiastic and exagerrate a lot!

But, you do realise the coverage isn't global? The commentators are not global either. They mix and match who gets to shoot what and usually change over at seperate heats. If anything, the BBC is being extremely open/leniant with the filming of the event. If I was the director of the BBC Olympics, I would use only my own footage! We paid for it!

At the end of the day, Londoners paid for this Olympics, they want to see their country do well. Anyone who is a British citizen should be cheering for Great Britain over other countries, the entire excitement of the Olympics comes from cheering your own team.

by **corleth** Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:32 pm

Grufftoof wrote:
Vaell wrote:Yeah, Britain is bigging themselves up but you shouldn't worry, we only do it because we're so amazing! I mean, look at the medals compared to our population...!

Sod the nation. It's all about God's Own County. At one point riding high at 7th in the medal table. Now 12th. I think. But obviously only if YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORKSHIRE was a separate country.

10 more gold medals than Germany, oooooooh.

Lyniath wrote:Oh, for christ's sake.
Windsurfing: After the match, they spend the entire time following Dempsey and his amazing silver medal and thanking all the crowd. The dutch gold medal winner isn't even NAMED, they just show a 5 second clip of "the guy from the Netherlands who won a gold."
Commentary on the sea events has been appallingly bad.

that dutch dude could have won sailing gold by walking on the water and i still wouldn't have given a single fuck about him, in fact, if he had done that and the BBC even MENTIONED his name in passing, i would have sent in a complaint.

by **Nithel** Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:39 pm

I do like Belgian coverage of the event so far; It's fairly unbiased albeit commentary is a bit dull and sometimes unnecessary.

But I guess that's because we don't compete in more than half the sports and don't stand a single chance for medals in the small half we do compete in. Else we'd probably be a little nationalistic 'swell.

So far I think I like the USA teams most. They give so many interviews to our Belgian reporters and they're always so amazing, such shining personalities Smile

I also like it that there's a lot of support for the Dutch team from our side ^^

by **Dréfurion** Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:47 pm

I quite like the Dutch coverage.. Eventhough it's quite negative (asking someone who ended fourth: "What went wrong?", even though he's never done so well before) It atleast it's fairly impartial (being a little unforgiving, sometimes), with little unnecessary commentary.. There's also quite a few good shows to go along with the Olympics!

.. That Dutch guy already had Gold in the previous heat (do they call it heats with windsurfing?) and then he even didn't do the last lap, and he comes across as an amazing person.

by **Grufftoof** Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:05 pm

In a major sporting event you don't really want impartial and unbiased commentary. Even if it might be when reporting the world at large (news) The Beeb (for example) is far away from anything approaching impartiality when it comes to sport.

I'm hardly a massive sporting fan (cricket and RU more or less) but sport should be passion and excitement. Getting the crucial shot, building the hopes, covering the pain and glory!

But only if they're British. Of course.

Bollocks to the rest of you.

Very Happy

The Olympics: A free ticket to nationalism! And a world of grief and pity from lefties (myself included) and liberals everywhere who are just not sure they should be liking all this, but are, cos frankly its great fun. And we're all to lazy/untalented/useless to do any of this ourselves!

cheers

by **Grufftoof** Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:45 pm

I still think there should have been some additional sports (and some dropped). A shake up of the Olympic games.

Why not have T20 cricket? Rugby 7s? Lacrosse? Ironman Triathlon? Hell, even Kabaddi. Or Bulldog. Or darts.

Ok, maybe not darts.

Golf is to be reinstated for 2016. Why? Why is Dressage there as it's only a toff in a hat on a horse (I understand controlling a horse is actually technically difficult and a skill but...)? Why in all honesty are sports there where a judge or panel decide on the outcome (and I know "TEAM GB YAY" got a number of medals in these)? Surely it should be seen/shown by "winning" not by "scoring"... I dunno. Irks me!

/pointless rant over

Edit: apparently if you break down the medals from Yorkshire even further then the area of Leeds I live in is 32nd on the medal table. And if you break it down even further I myself got Gold. And taking it even further no one cares outside of inside of my head.

by **Nithel** Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:59 pm

Grufftoof wrote:

Golf is to be reinstated for 2016.

Rugby will be added aswell in 2016 I thought.

by **Ixirar** Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:12 pm

I want the Olympic Comittee to admit E-sports as an official olympic discipline!

by **Dréfurion** Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:14 pm

Ixirar/Kavalis wrote:I want the Olympic Comittee to admit E-sports as an official olympic discipline!

I second this.

by **Lyniath** Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:04 pm

Why is Dressage there as it's only a toff in a hat on a horse (I understand controlling a horse is actually technically difficult and a skill but...)?

I saw this today and nobody in the room could figure out why the hell this was a sport in the Olympics.

by **Nithel** Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:50 pm

If I'm not mistaken there's a council that votes whether or not a new sport will be added to the Olympic arsenal or not. Golf for example got denied a few times already due to this vote. There's no real guideline rationale behind it to my knowledge. A sport that applies gets weighted and then there's a vote.

A lot of sports in the Olympic Games are also about heritage/how long they've been around and having roots within the Olympic Games. And I can imagine dressage being a rather old sport with deep roots into Olympic games but I'd have to look it up and internet is being borky.

by **Muzjhath** Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:04 pm

Lyniath wrote:
Why is Dressage there as it's only a toff in a hat on a horse (I understand controlling a horse is actually technically difficult and a skill but...)?

I saw this today and nobody in the room could figure out why the hell this was a sport in the Olympics.

It's a sport in the olympics because it's more or less the most difficult activity one can do on a Horse. It's just sorta hard to aprichiate not knowing much.

And Gruth, for yours "point giving sports shoulnd't be in the olympics".
That'd remove:
Wrestling
Boxing
Gymnastcs (all sorts)
Judo
Taekwando
And most likely more.

by **Ixirar** Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:07 pm

Nithel wrote:
A lot of sports in the Olympic Games are also about heritage/how long they've been around and having roots within the Olympic Games. And I can imagine dressage being a rather old sport with deep roots into Olympic games but I'd have to look it up and internet is being borky.

Wikipedia wrote:Equestrianism made its Summer Olympics debut at the 1900 Summer Olympics

The equestrian events were the province of the elite—only wealthy aristocrats could afford to equip and maintain a chariot and horses, not to mention the cost of trainers and the charioteer or jockey. It was the owner who received the victory wreath, not the actual athlete. Thus, it was possible to "buy" a victory and a place in history. This is also why winners included children, women, and cities. These races seem, amazingly enough, diametrically opposed to the athletic ideals that the Games were supposed to embody. It is not surprising then that this event has no legacy in the modern Olympics, which were engineered by Coubertin to promote the legacy of the ancient Pelops, Hercules, and King Iphitos [athletic ideal] .

Not it, no :p And the only equestrian events in the Ancient Olympic were Horse- and Chariot racing. One key word in the Ancient Olympics is that the disciplines all either carried extreme demands from the participants physic shape, or had an extremely high risk of getting participants injure.

And, Dressage wasn't recognised as any sort of notable activity untill the renaissance.

by **Nithel** Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:22 pm

Ixirar/Kavalis wrote:

Wikipedia wrote:Equestrianism made its Summer Olympics debut at the 1900 Summer Olympics

Not it, no :p And the only equestrian events in the Ancient Olympic were Horse- and Chariot racing. One key word in the Ancient Olympics is that the disciplines all either carried extreme demands from the participants physic shape, or had an extremely high risk of getting participants injure.

And, Dressage wasn't recognised as any sort of notable activity untill the renaissance.

My bad for not clarifying but I did mean the modern Olympic Games (the ones that got reintroduced very late 1800s) which makes Equestrianism one of the earliest added Modern Olympic sports. Which I meant with the 'history' part.

by **Lexgrad** Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:37 pm

Win some medals and you find the olympics are more fun Razz

You should get behind the British, flying the flag for europe! *troll face*

But Bulldog as an olympic sport! I so wanna see that!

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