Re: To our Alliance and their guild leaders. An encouragment. [DO LOCK THREAD PLEASE. ]

by **Vincent** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:01 pm

"I could spend all day arguing points and views."

But you won't, instead, you'll pick fights.

The point still goes that people like Drustai and others have made pretty decent points here and you choose not to acknowledge them, you chose one side of the argument, some of us chose the other so instead of trying to attack us personally, argue your point, or take that popcorn and go somewhere else, because it's not us that looks like fools here.

by **Krogon Devilstep** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:04 pm

Vincent wrote:"I could spend all day arguing points and views."

But you won't, instead, you'll pick fights.

Instead of taking no for an answer, You'l try and force your opinion down my throat or take it to the forums to try and get 'mass support'.

Off your high horse. Your getting nothing from me, And thats that.

by **Ralegh** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:05 pm

Seiken Lionmane wrote:
But then of course, You like Thrusting death on unwilling players too dont you = / how much of a choice did ildranor get?

We discussed it with Ildranor and left it up to him, he told us that if we felt it made sense to kill him we were allowed to.
I don't like you accusing me of forcing people to kill off their characters without really knowing anything about what happened.

by **Vincent** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:09 pm

I asked if there was a possibility of killing your character in the future, you said no, that's fair...when I posed it to you that it was unfair that I should be hunted and you were immune, I was simply looking for a discussion to which I recieved...

"Don't do stupid shit then you won't die."

Don't say stupid shit you don't mean on the forums if you don't think people will take you up on it, good guys can die too - anyone remember who said that?

Yes, perhaps you didn't mean you, but to completely destroy your own point by saying, "if you weren't bad, we wouldn't want to kill you." Then flailing around in these posts not really arguing against any of our points, you keep trying to make this about Vincent and Seiken, because this is where it started, I want to make this about the criminal community.

I either want to be able to kill or maim my hunters...or have the hand of god flip off those who want me dead, because if I can't kill anyone that tries to kill me...well then, what's to say the rope at the gallows doesn't snap? >_<

by **Lexgrad** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:12 pm

without really knowing anything about what happened.

Is the cause of most drama on this forum.

by **Krogon Devilstep** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:12 pm

Ezlbag wrote:
Seiken Lionmane wrote:
But then of course, You like Thrusting death on unwilling players too dont you = / how much of a choice did ildranor get?
We discussed it with Ildranor and left it up to him, he told us that if we felt it made sense to kill him we were allowed to.
I don't like you accusing me of forcing people to kill off their characters without really knowing anything about what happened.

I know plenty, your cornered him and he accepted as he had no other choice.

Players have a choice. I told Vincent No, He didnt like it.

I fail to see what else is left to say? Sour grapes? He doesnt like being hunted? ... his choice to provoke it, not mine, My character can only respond as any Lord would to a persisistant mad man.

by **Vincent** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:13 pm

"He doesnt like being hunted?"

How did your brain even learn human speech? Where?! Where did I say that?!

by **Krogon Devilstep** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:15 pm

Vincent wrote:"He doesnt like being hunted?"

How did your brain even learn human speech? Where?! Where did I say that?!

Because you constantly complain about it, i would imagine.

as for speech, i would direct you to the word 'No' in the English dictionary.

its short, but simple.

As for not invincible, we've proven that paticular myth to be false now havent we already? mister "i'm a warlock rogue who cant die because i cursed other people to suffer my deaths for me", and then rampage around trying to kill everyone.

Sorry, but this is degrading into a Bad joke.

I advise you once again to look into Andrek and Ataris as examples of Bad guys, you need to read up.

by **Vincent** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:16 pm

I'm not complaining about being hunted -I like being hunted- what i don't like is everyone -but me- being invincible.

by **Braiden** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:18 pm

Poop flinging fest here eh?

by **Sanara** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:19 pm

The sexual tension in this thread is practically tangible.

by **Vincent** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:19 pm

I wish it were that simple Braiden, I've really got no vendetta against anyone here, I'm just trying to put across points that are being entirely side-stepped or missed, you're right, this isn't an argument anymore about the issue, so let's just get back on topic, please.

"The sexual tension in this thread is practically tangible."

There wouldn't be if lightie's weren't immune to my...backstabs Wink

by **Grufftoof** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:23 pm

Braiden wrote:Poop flinging fest here eh?

by **Krogon Devilstep** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:24 pm

Vincent wrote:I wish it were that simple Braiden, I've really got no vendetta against anyone here, I'm just trying to put across points that are being entirely side-stepped or missed, you're right, this isn't an argument anymore about the issue, so let's just get back on topic, please.

"The sexual tension in this thread is practically tangible."

There wouldn't be if lightie's weren't immune to my...backstabs

ahha.

Not obsessed with killing players eh?

Hrm... Hahaha...

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by **Grufftoof** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:26 pm

If WoW had GMs... oh. Sweet GMs. With their little cardboard screens and charts and many hidden dice rolls.

But, yes. I guess if people WANT to RP consequences then that is a two way street.

Like DP. But RP.

DRP anyone?!

Edit:

The "ultimate" consequence is death in a fantasy world I guess. Though death of a mundane sort is probably just as likely (if not more so) than a crazy assassination... but dying of typhus or dropsy isn't quite as heroic...

by **Braiden** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:27 pm

Grufftoof wrote:DERP

Fix'd

by **Lorainne/Bridlington** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:27 pm

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Grufftoof, I'm having a hard time realising that you're twice my age, and could've been my teenage father.

EDIT: Forgot that you're gay. Teehee.

by **siegmund** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:29 pm

I propose you both kill each other in some manner, be it you do it yourself or friends/assassins/other.

Problem solved!

But it's not...

by **Grufftoof** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:30 pm

Lorainne/Bridlington wrote:

Grufftoof, I'm having a hard time realising that you're twice my age, and could've been my teenage father.

I take that... as a compliment...

I think.

But, if you can't bring toilet humour, double entendré or such to a situation, then you're no son of mine!

Edit... you forgot I am gay? ... I didn't even know I was in the first place. The things you learn from the youth of today.

by **Ave/Sariella** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:32 pm

Seiken, honestly, i'm probably more obsessed with killing characters than Vincent is.

And i honestly don't see Vincent being bothered by not being allowed to kill -you- I believe he's bothered by your childish attitude. He's trying to have a discussion you're shitting all over because you think it's personal.

And i'll mention on the magic bit, chop his head off and he's dead, as in proper dead, a magically bound soul cannot grow him a new head, a stab to the heart wouldnt be healed either i imagine.

So i suggest that you judge your own ways of dying and returning to life before you judge his.

Now i apologise for having to fling poo or whatever so this is it from me!

by **Lorainne/Bridlington** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:32 pm

This thread causes me severe abdominal strains, subsequently making my feces liquid. Or, this thread gives me the shits.

Are you happy now, dad?

EDIT: You aren't? Now all my poor derriere-related remarks are useless!

by **Odgan / Keag** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:34 pm

But then of course, You like Thrusting death on unwilling players too dont you = / how much of a choice did ildranor get?

I would like to say that when RPing Ildranor the way I did then, I knew that such could happen. And told Ezlbag that I would prefer Ildranor alive, but that it is RP and that I would roll with it when it made IC sense for Ildranor to get murdered.
Which happend, so it was not forced, I was well aware of the possible consueqences of messing with the Cartel, and accepted these. As I have explained to a lot of people.

by **Krogon Devilstep** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:39 pm

Ave wrote:Seiken, honestly, i'm probably more obsessed with killing characters than Vincent is.

And i honestly don't see Vincent being bothered by not being allowed to kill -you- I believe he's bothered by your childish attitude. He's trying to have a discussion you're shitting all over because you think it's personal.

And i'll mention on the magic bit, chop his head off and he's dead, as in proper dead, a magically bound soul cannot grow him a new head, a stab to the heart wouldnt be healed either i imagine.

So i suggest that you judge your own ways of dying and returning to life before you judge his.

Now i apologise for having to fling poo or whatever so this is it from me!

Again with the not knowing anything about my Character. you may want to put that stick down, you seem to be holding it at the wrong end.

by **Forsetí** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:40 pm

Ave wrote:Seiken, honestly, i'm probably more obsessed with killing characters than Vincent is.

And i honestly don't see Vincent being bothered by not being allowed to kill -you- I believe he's bothered by your childish attitude. He's trying to have a discussion you're shitting all over because you think it's personal.

And i'll mention on the magic bit, chop his head off and he's dead, as in proper dead, a magically bound soul cannot grow him a new head, a stab to the heart wouldnt be healed either i imagine.

So i suggest that you judge your own ways of dying and returning to life before you judge his.

Now i apologise for having to fling poo or whatever so this is it from me!

This one has it.
She's looking outside the box and can see the bigger picture.
Now, this thread was created with the intention of discussing the procedure and protocol of IC killings and deaths. Not for squabbles. Perhaps anyone who wishes to squabble should take it to a private environment, otherwise it will just devolve into a flame war or whatever.

But the point stands, everyone can die. Everyone should be able to be killed. Regardless of their political standing, a dagger to the heart is fatal.
Obviously people want their character to survive (unless the character is made to be killed off) and you'll do your best to stop the character from dying but if the character ends up in a situation in which it should die, death must always be a possible outcome.

by **Ralegh** Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:42 pm

Ildranor / Utawba wrote:
But then of course, You like Thrusting death on unwilling players too dont you = / how much of a choice did ildranor get?

I would like to say that when RPing Ildranor the way I did then, I knew that such could happen. And told Ezlbag that I would prefer Ildranor alive, but that it is RP and that I would roll with it when it made IC sense for Ildranor to get murdered.
Which happend, so it was not forced, I was well aware of the possible consueqences of messing with the Cartel, and accepted these. As I have explained to a lot of people.

Hope that clears things up for you then Seiken, as it is i would have been willing to kill my character aswell if Ildranor had been in the position to murder him...
Wanting somebody dead really doesn't work unless you are willing to go down yourself.

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