Guild Wars 2

Internet people like to do that.

Lyniath wrote:Internet people like to do that.

Indeed, I'm not even going to say what kind of people it is, and only show a describing picture:

Didn't you hear? Everyone on the internet can do it better then paid game developers!

Euuugh, so many straw man arguments in here.

I understand many of you might not be aware who the author of the post is. Nor who Team Quitter are in the grand scheme of GW PvP. I'll also not labour the point in trying to explain it. Needless to say they're an incredibly committed, devoted ,talented, and inciteful bunch of players. You need to be to succeed in Guild Wars. They're also massive GW1 fans and from the look of the two articles (Top 10 negatives and top 11 posities) on their front page massive GW2 fans.

I've not said I could do it better than the game devs, the author certainly didn't do it better than the game devs, and the guy I quoted certainly didn't say he could do it better than the game devs. What we have all said is that GW2 looks to be an incredible game, even though only one of the three of us have hands on experiance with it.

The 10 negatives are negatives we -knew- would exist from the -earliest- announcements about the games intended direction, feel, and style. They're not surprising and they're not 'faults' with the games design. They're the intentional and unavoidable results of certain posities. It's a matter of taste. I've always liked Guild Wars accessible PvP which is being made even more accessible in the sequal. Some people, howeer, like to get an advantage over their opponants via better gear. You can't satisfy both sets of people, it's dichotomy.

For the set of positives they have chosen, those ten negatives follow hand in hand. That is not a bad thing. If you think those positives and negaties ruin the game for you then that is a problem with you and not with the game. Denouncing Damon as a troll is premature at best, hypocritical at worst.

I'll tepeat myself for clarity. Those top ten negatives are not going away. If they concern you that's your problem. Because they don't concern those of us who understand what sort of game GW2 is trying to be. A brilliant game in which certain design choices were made by developers I trust.

I wasn't accusing anyone of being a troll, just hinting that people like to complain
I'll be playing Gw2 regardless of any on that list because it's sub-free and looks awesome.

Well, if we look at the post...

10, feels like the player just wants to be able to instantly recognize a person so he'll know just how to prepare to meet them. Not liking the unknown.
Yes, it adds some problems, but after the first attack I'd guess you'd know what class someone is. And so what if a warrior is as effective at range as a Ranger? Just adds fun elements to the mix imo. As long as the proffessions play differently it's not a flaw at all in my mind.

9 This is fully true. But they still bring everything they learned from Guild wars into GW2. I wouldn't state it as a flaw, more as an objective observation.

8 might be valid. Still, I've seen a pvp video where an elementalist used his whirldwind elite yet still got kited to death by a Ranger.
Situational? Yes.
Unbeatable? No.

7 is valid if A-Net fails in the ballance they want to get. They might very possibly do so, but as seen in Guild Wars, if anything was apearantly overpowered so everyone had to take it, it was generally fixed far quicker than Blizzard ever fixed anything that didn't break the game.
Still, if they ballance the attribute rights so they fit playstyles yet play roughtly as effectivly, no big problem.
As for the weapons, they try to make each weapon different in style. Like how a Staff is longer range, lots of AoE while a dagger is shorter range, not that much area on elementalists. As long as A-Net manages to ballance, not really a problem.
Still, if A-net is lax in that department, a serious problem.

6 is just a proof of ballant lazyness. A-net has stated that there will be other forms of competetive PvP, they just haven't released any maps on it for the convent demos.
There are some valid arguments fo the type yet for me personally many of them don't apply, only the last paragraph of 6 is imo fully valid on the scoring. Something that easily can be changed.

5, Controlls is a barrier to entry yes. But some fallasies is in this post as well. Quite sure that the doubletapping of a directional button can work for dodge even in PvP (default dodge setting). And after comming from WoW PvP where lots of classes have lots of buttons in general I look at GW2 and see less to click.
Some valid about the entry, yes, but I find most of this point really to be grasping for straws.

4 I can't speak for with the autotargeting.
As for the AoE aiming, I believe it only affects the "z" axle while in underwater combat, otherwise it works as AoE in almost any other MMO, basic ground targeting.

3 On three I think A-nets goal is to have skills have quite distinctive effects. Thus they are often quite "colourful" they've gotten some complaints about that from some people.
On the statues cues, no idea really. I just know that from the video I saw where blind was used. The monsters really did get black clouds around their heads. And that was an older video than that article.

2 On two, the first part is part preference, part answeared above.
The second part, the damage floaters can/will be able to be resized for personal preference I believe. Like everything else with the UI. For the numbers themselves I can't speak.
On the health, the healthorb starts blinking white when you're low.

As for the Cross CLass combos. Yes, there is a point in them maybe being hard to distinguish until you're really, really, experienced. But for the teamwork they give the game I don't care for that minor fucking flaw one bloody whit.
As for the harm, I believe A-net has said something about there being visual ques to enemy effects compared to team effects, just for the reasons stated here.

1 I can't answear deeply. I can just say that A-net stated when they removed the energy cost from the skills that it was because they felt it didn't fit and they wanted to find a new resource for it.

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That is why I find that article to be so very "meh", for me it just sounds like the writer tried the PvP at Pax or Eurocon for fourt minutes and felt quite "Baaah, it used to be better!"
And yes, it might have been better. But half the article just screams "I'm bad at research!" to me.

I just have a bit of a pet peeve for post that are essentially a wall of text or critism for a game we haven't had the chance to, ourselves even play yet. Though I understand it does come from a place of good intention Gene!

Yeah, don't like premature hate. It feels like the person has nothing better to do than whine.
Though, there are -some- games that you can instantly tell will be bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-wPHRE-z54
Looks kewl. Too pink-y, though.

I think the purpl-y is part of the aestetic the class has always has around its skills.

I remember when Mesmer armor looked like lingerie <3

That little guy is so damned cute. <3

The more I think about it, the more I'm going to roll a Male Human Mesmer over a Male Norn Guardian.

He'll become a gentleman adventurer *coughthiefcough*

Male Mesmer was my second character, taking over from my ranger within the first few months of play.

Special place in my heart for their playstyle.

It's... it's beautiful.

Male Sylvari mesmer me thinks or female human mesmer.

I'll go with Analbeth on that one.
The Mesmer is mesmerizing!

I'm going to be a rebel and NOT play a Mesmer.

Idk what classes there are. XD

Warrior, Guardian, Ranger, Elementalist, Thief, Necromancer, Mesmer, Engineer.

ENGINEER? DO WANT. :O

Also Thief.

Engineers has flamethrowers. And rocketboots.

SOLD!

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Profession For more info on the proffessions/classes

Tsurana/Lorainne wrote:I'll go with Analbeth on that one.
The Mesmer is mesmerizing!

Did I miss something Demonspawn?

Annabeth Helmsley wrote:

Tsurana/Lorainne wrote:I'll go with Analbeth on that one.
The Mesmer is mesmerizing!

Did I miss something Demonspawn?

XD! You've made my day. That is all.

is there any news regarding a release date yet?