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Jazzle wrote:

Madel/Vectoria/Koblitz wrote:Any class race combo, technically -could- exsist in WOW. exluding undead who can never command nature or the light. However Undead Priests are still ingame due to mechanical issues.

What about that Undead in the Scarlet Crusade Cathedral Dungeon? I'm fairly certain there was an Undead who could use the Light there. And Sir Zelik, or whatever his name was... he was a Deathknight who could use the Light.

Also, I'm relatively certain that the Undead Priests are really 'supposed' to use the Shadow talent specialization, rather than Holy or Discipline.

The whole point of the Forsaken is that they Light -Forsake- them.


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Madel/Vectoria/Koblitz wrote:

Jazzle wrote:

Madel/Vectoria/Koblitz wrote:Any class race combo, technically -could- exsist in WOW. exluding undead who can never command nature or the light. However Undead Priests are still ingame due to mechanical issues.

What about that Undead in the Scarlet Crusade Cathedral Dungeon? I'm fairly certain there was an Undead who could use the Light there. And Sir Zelik, or whatever his name was... he was a Deathknight who could use the Light.

Also, I'm relatively certain that the Undead Priests are really 'supposed' to use the Shadow talent specialization, rather than Holy or Discipline.

The whole point of the Forsaken is that they Light -Forsake- them.


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I bet you didn't even read what I said. ¬¬ Per usual.

I didn't at any point say 'lol alls forsakenz use liaght'. I merely stated that there is a priest in the Cathedral who uses it, and that there is a Death Knight who uses it. I also stated that Forsaken are meant to use Shadow, not Light.

I'm abit disapointed that I have to retype a comment. Please don't try and facepalm something you haven't read, mmkay?

I facepalm because it's -impossible- for forsaken to use the Light. Else they wouldn't be called Forsaken, even individuals. and don't be so defensive I can facepalm at what I like.

Blizzard own various good forsaken who follow the teachings of the light, but because their undead however who can not actually use it. 

Madel/Vectoria/Koblitz wrote: I facepalm because it's -impossible- for forsaken to use the Light. Else they wouldn't be called Forsaken, even individuals. and don't be so defensive I can facepalm at what I like.

I don't like people facepalming at something that doesn't even source from me. I'm not giving -opinions- for you to judge here, I'm telling you what's in the game. You have a problem, take it up with Blizzard.

Also, /facepalm towards the fact that you don't even know that Sir Zelik, and Undead, uses the Light.

I'm allowed to facepalm at what I like, right?

Unless it's stated -in lore- that he uses the light, then I refuse to believe it. The undead in SM is simply casting out of game mechs. That is the rule of the forsaken. And so far no exception has ever been highlighted. ever.

Sir Zelik's faith in the Light was so strong in life that he was able to use it even in death. Look it up instead and stop berating me.

And also, casting out of game mechanics? Next thing I know, you'll be saying that Warlocks use arcane, it's just game mechanics cause them to cast fel-based spells. *Rolls eyes*

Jazzle wrote:Sir Zelik's faith in the Light was so strong in life that he was able to use it even in death. Look it up instead and stop berating me.

And also, casting out of game mechanics? Next thing I know, you'll be saying that Warlocks use arcane, it's just game mechanics cause them to cast fel-based spells. *Rolls eyes*

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Blizzard has stated many a time the only reason Forsaken were ever allowed priest was due to their obession with the Shadow. because of -Game Mechanics- they also are allowed to use the light, and no. I searched not a single scrap of evidence is shown about him using the light.


The Facepalm and the attitude are not intended personally for you, this is not a personal attack. as I don't know you personally. I'm just not a huge fan of people with misintreptations.

It's like arguing with a brick wall... Oh well.

Jazzle wrote:It's like arguing with a brick wall... Oh well.

Your not big on maturity are you? 
I've kept my comments on low until now, It is fact they cannot use the Light. and I've facepalmed at your confusion. I did not once, make this personal. If you want to draw it out and try and gain some sort of hollow victory from it, be my guest. Currently I'm just picturing you as well, it rthymes with brick.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Sir_Zeliek

A particular quote: 'Zeliek is, "so strong in his faith, that even in undeath, the power of the light still heeds his call, smiting his foes in battle." '

That's all I'm going to say. Continue to state I am 'confused' if you are too arrogant to accept correction. My interest is waning, so I don't particularly care if you ignore this post, even though it gives evidence to back up my theory that Undead may use the Light.

I apologise, I sit corrected. But you need to watch how you approach situations like this, insulting me instead of correcting me first was alittle harsh?, 8/

Jazzle wrote:

Madel/Vectoria/Koblitz wrote:Any class race combo, technically -could- exsist in WOW. exluding undead who can never command nature or the light. However Undead Priests are still ingame due to mechanical issues.

What about that Undead in the Scarlet Crusade Cathedral Dungeon? I'm fairly certain there was an Undead who could use the Light there. And Sir Zelik, or whatever his name was... he was a Deathknight who could use the Light.

Also, I'm relatively certain that the Undead Priests are really 'supposed' to use the Shadow talent specialization, rather than Holy or Discipline.

Apologies on not sending a link. I assumed you'd either believe me, or look it up yourself, instead of dismissing it instantly.

...I didn't think Blizzard would be that stupid to let a NPC use the light lorewise, forsaken that is. 
I mean, their cultures based on it.

[[ Whoops. ]]

Yeah, well Blizzard also made spaceships and blue squids. What does that tell you.

Jazzle wrote:Yeah, well Blizzard also made spaceships and blue squids. What does that tell you.

Okay.. I love the Draenei. So frakk off! D:

Madel/Vectoria/Koblitz wrote:

Jazzle wrote:Sir Zelik's faith in the Light was so strong in life that he was able to use it even in death. Look it up instead and stop berating me.

And also, casting out of game mechanics? Next thing I know, you'll be saying that Warlocks use arcane, it's just game mechanics cause them to cast fel-based spells. *Rolls eyes*

...

Blizzard has stated many a time the only reason Forsaken were ever allowed priest was due to their obession with the Shadow. because of -Game Mechanics- they also are allowed to use the light, and no. I searched not a single scrap of evidence is shown about him using the light.


The Facepalm and the attitude are not intended personally for you, this is not a personal attack. as I don't know you personally. I'm just not a huge fan of people with misintreptations.

The forsaken started quests says they can use the light. But must not forget they're children of the shadow.

...God I'm loosing all faith in blizzard. 

Stop complaing, you'll play it anyway.

Madel/Vectoria/Koblitz wrote:...God I'm loosing all faith in blizzard. 

That's been there since Vanilla. ._.

I know, I was just always delusioned to think the forsaken couldn't use the light, partly why I like them so much..

Trave/Vargosh/Thandros wrote:

The forsaken started quests says they can use the light. But must not forget they're children of the shadow.

I, tbh, remember a quest where (the warlock trainer?) tells you the Light has forsaken them.

Well it has forsaken them, the majority of all 'Human' Priests that became the Forsaken had no ability to use the Light after death.

The very few allowances that have been noted in this thread, are rare, plus they cannot use the Light to heal themselves, I'd imagine. Or other Forsaken. They can only use it to, quoting that wowwiki page, "smiting his foes".

I don't think there is anything in Zeliek's tactics of him healing the other horsemen, because they're all undead amirite?

Thus, as a nation, the main function of the Light. Healing. Has been taken away from them, however the Shadow can still heal them. Shadowmending. Thus it's still the nation that the Light forsaked.

Madel/Vectoria/Koblitz wrote:Any class race combo, technically -could- exsist in WOW.

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Stop being stagnant, people. Evolution happens. Mixing happens. Learning happens. Move forward. You are playing in a world with spaceships, craetures with tentacles and tails, resurrection, portals, teleportation, invisibility. Why on earth would you think a human "can't" use a bow and arrow, or a tauren "can't" learn to command the light? Anything goes. And it's as naive as watching the oh-so-intelligent gnomes make friggin teleporters and aircrafts, but still unable to understand a single damn word of dwarven after they've been living for a whole EIGHT YEARS in the same city - but somehow speak human languages by default.

Aomir/Lyrion wrote:

Trave/Vargosh/Thandros wrote:

The forsaken started quests says they can use the light. But must not forget they're children of the shadow.

I, tbh, remember a quest where (the warlock trainer?) tells you the Light has forsaken them.

I was refering to the priest starters, obviously.