Re: The vent thread

by **Vaell** Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:17 pm

I can imagine people not liking both, tbh. I only enjoyed them because they were a lot of fun in comparison to shite by the Bronte sisters. I bet if you went into school and took a survey on people who actually enjoy Jane Eyre or Wuthering Heights, it would be a minimal percentage of people who actually enjoy it. It doesn't really represent what is appealing about literature for a young teen.

And some poetry, bloody hell. I remember in school when they pulled out metaphors and disected them to a point that was just pure bullshit. I can't recall which poet, but I know one took an examination on his own poetry and only got a 'D'. Since then, I'm a lot less trusting of how in depth the meaning behind certain words are in a poem.

by Guest Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:03 pm

Hamlet was interesting.

by **Lexgrad** Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:13 pm

There should be lots of Shakespeare taught really. Hamlet is V interesting.

Tho at school I only recall studying Macbeth and Romeo/Juliet. Pity really, Merchant of Venice, Hamlet, Henry V, Othello are all worth a closer look.

by **Raenmar** Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:24 pm

We did Titus Andronicus, which was boring as hell imo. Great Expectations was pretty good, but we only had time to read the first 5 chapters.

Meh well, had the first hour (closer to 45 minutes) of the comparison essay today. Wrote two full pages on one feeling. It was actually a hell of a lot easier than expected when I really got into it. Got another 3 hours to finish it.

I just can't read books. Took me 2 years to read Day of the Dragon on and off, and I can only read a few pages at a time. Felt like quite an achievement when I finished it.

by **Allonia_Miral** Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:18 pm

Vaell wrote:And some poetry, bloody hell. I remember in school when they pulled out metaphors and disected them to a point that was just pure bullshit. I can't recall which poet, but I know one took an examination on his own poetry and only got a 'D'. Since then, I'm a lot less trusting of how in depth the meaning behind certain words are in a poem.

I remember watching a lecture done by one of own writers, who told a story about some students asking her for help on their exam, which was on her book. In the end they called her back and said they had flunked. I also take that as an example of how silly it can sometimes get with the 'clever' people over-analyzing things.

by **Raenmar** Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:43 pm

Yeah, you need to talk some shit in English lit. We studied Woman in Black and looked at how Susan Hill used the connotations of the name 'Arthur' to give the impression of a rational protagonist. I really don't think that even crossed her mind.

by **Vaell** Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:45 pm

Lexgrad wrote:There should be lots of Shakespeare taught really. Hamlet is V interesting.

Tho at school I only recall studying Macbeth and Romeo/Juliet. Pity really, Merchant of Venice, Hamlet, Henry V, Othello are all worth a closer look.

I agree, but the way shakespeare is taught is really counter productive in a lot of cases. I only really appreciated it when I got to college.

And yeah, Raen. She probably chose Arthur as she simply liked the name.

by **Sevelle** Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:03 pm

Misclicked on what seemed to be a gold selling ad when signing in earlier.

What's the likelihood that my computer is now infected with a keylogger?

by Guest Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:04 pm

Do you have an authenticator?

Also, adblock!

by **Tuomas/Decurius** Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:15 pm

On the English literature thing. I talk as outsider, who studied Italian literature(mother tongue) and then started to study English literature the 'English' way. I was utterly horrified. I really like English/American literature(not all, I have my list of authors) but the way it is taught, at least as it was to me, it's completely disappointing. Too many cages, too much reading between the lines, it's art, it's literature, not maths. You can't tell people how they should feel reading a poem, or teach what you think the author was thinking when he wrote this and that.

(Won't mention the fact the teacher hadn't the least glimpse of idea about who Walt Whitman was, that's for another post, when I'll actually need to whine)

by **Sevelle** Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:24 pm

perturbo wrote:Do you have an authenticator?

Also, adblock!

Nah, I haven't got an authenticator.

by **Seranita** Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:35 pm

then do a virus scan, adware scan and a bot scan

that is before logging onto wow

by **Feydor** Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:29 pm

or wait a bit til they start farming gold for you THEN take the account back
tis a win win

by Guest Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:37 pm

Yeah give me a few more days with it ffs

by **Shaelyssa** Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:12 pm

Vaell wrote:
Raenmar wrote:Compare the presenation of feeling in 'Great Expectations' and FUCK YOU

I'm so bad at English lit <_<
This is why English Lit's curriculum needs to drastically change. I remember how many people were put off by the fact you're analysing books that, though extremely well written, are pretty fucking dull to a young person. I had to study Jane Eyre and I couldn't read past the first chapter at 16, I hated it. I ended up reading a synopsis and winging it on the exam date - came out with a high B, where as if it was a book I could get into, I would have aced it.

Withering Heights, Jane Eyre, Great Expectations yada yada yada. The only decent books I ever studied in English were 'Of Mice and Men', 'To Kill a Mockingbird', 'Animal Farm' and 'Othello' (only because I already knew the book due to doing a drama piece alongside it). If they threw in some Song of Ice and Fire or something just as popular, you'd have a lot more people wanting to get into English Lit and then you can save the crappier parts for college.

"Withering" Heights ... ?!?!?!?!

and speak for yourself I loved the books we were given to read at school thomas hardy is a literary god

by **Lexgrad** Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:25 pm

Shaelyssa wrote:
Vaell wrote:
Raenmar wrote:Compare the presenation of feeling in 'Great Expectations' and FUCK YOU

I'm so bad at English lit <_<
This is why English Lit's curriculum needs to drastically change. I remember how many people were put off by the fact you're analysing books that, though extremely well written, are pretty fucking dull to a young person. I had to study Jane Eyre and I couldn't read past the first chapter at 16, I hated it. I ended up reading a synopsis and winging it on the exam date - came out with a high B, where as if it was a book I could get into, I would have aced it.

Withering Heights, Jane Eyre, Great Expectations yada yada yada. The only decent books I ever studied in English were 'Of Mice and Men', 'To Kill a Mockingbird', 'Animal Farm' and 'Othello' (only because I already knew the book due to doing a drama piece alongside it). If they threw in some Song of Ice and Fire or something just as popular, you'd have a lot more people wanting to get into English Lit and then you can save the crappier parts for college.

"Withering" Heights ... ?!?!?!?!

and speak for yourself I loved the books we were given to read at school thomas hardy is a literary god

by **Lexgrad** Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:26 pm

Is it me or would that have been an awesome /dance for one of the races.

by **Vaell** Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:31 pm

Shaelyssa wrote:
"Withering" Heights ... ?!?!?!?!

and speak for yourself I loved the books we were given to read at school thomas hardy is a literary god

Typo. It was spelt correctly in my next post Wink

I'd imagine a fair few RPers here would enjoy that style of writing because we're a group of writers... For your common young student, reading about depressed women getting turned on by depressed men was not my idea of a good read and I knew only one person who enjoyed it in school. The weird kid!

by **Lorainne/Bridlington** Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:03 am

Dutch literature: fetishes, sex, psychosis, traumas, murder, etc.

Anything that would make it unsuitable for minors yet we read the pieces anyway.

by **Dréfurion** Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:24 pm

Almost got in to collision with a speeding cop (with no sirenes etc), the fucker even had the audacity to give me a vile look.

by **Seranita** Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:37 pm

did he have his blues on?

by **corleth** Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:41 pm

Dréfurion wrote:Almost got in to collision with a speeding cop (with no sirenes etc), the fucker even had the audacity to give me a vile look.

i feel ur struggle homie

by **Shaelyssa** Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:24 am

cant finish my fucking coursework cause every time I find a relevant article I cant fucking access it cause my fucking uni hasnt fucking bought the fucking article so isntead I have to fucking look at other fucking articles only to find out theyre in fucking german or spanish or some other fucking stupid annoying fucking language

DSHKJDLASDOAUDIHLKN

actually Im not that angry or frustrated I just felt like venting anyways cause Im bored

by Guest Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:33 am

That's REALLY annoying however, try http://jstore.org/ - without a Uni sign in you might not get 'everything' but hey, you might get something :-)

by **Shaelyssa** Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:44 am

hmm ok I will, thanks! the uni already recommended a million other websites (mainly been using pubmed cause everything else is annoying as hell and just feeds the slowly growing tumor this coursework is nursing away in my brain) but I'll give this jstore a shot! says my uni has access to it at least but we'll see!

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