Re: Tzeentch's Thread of Everchanging Topics

[Dréfurion]

Obama won! Yay.

Yay.

[Finnabhair]

Obama won! Yay.

Yay.

Woo!

[Guest]

[Lorainne/Bridlington]

The United States of America need a Labour party.

[Lorainne/Bridlington]

[Antistia]

The United States of America need a Labour party.

Absolutely not.

[Lavian]

Usually those Deal with it posts are dumb as fuck but in this case, I approve.

[Ixirar]

As much as people argue over British politics. "Fuck you middle class conservatives!" "Damn you poor labour muggles", they still have a lot of policies in common. I am so pleased we don't have to pick between Romney and Obama. They campaign so differently. Far right or left. The US needs an inbetween.

They don't have a far left party xD In Denmark, our rightmost party is left of Obama.

[Antistia]

Indeed America is on the right of the European political landscape and on the left of the American landscape.

[Lavian]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Donald Trump being a sore loser. Fuck that guy for the golf course bullshit in Scotland.

EDIT: Also meanwhile, at fox.

[Antistia]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Donald Trump being a sore loser. Fuck that guy for the golf course bullshit in Scotland.

EDIT: Also meanwhile, at fox.

I like how Trump first says that America is not a democracy, and then contradicts himself in the same hour. He's also, in essence, calling for an uprising cause an election didn't go his way. What a whiny little bitch.

[Lavian]

Yeah thats him alright. The same guy who pressured Obama for his birth certificate because he refused to believe Obama was american.

[Amaryl]

I do find it interesting that the right wing party in the us, has red as its colour, while the left sports blue.

[Dréfurion]

Tea party are undercover commies, clearly.

[Muzjhath]

I do find it interesting that the right wing party in the us, has red as its colour, while the left sports blue.

Saying "Left" about the democratic part is in quite a lot rather stupid.

Yes, on some issues they are to the left of the Republicans. Yet on many others they are to the right. THey twist and twirl around each other.
One example is that the Democrats are more often than not far more protectionistic than the Republicans. And want higher trade tariffs for importing from outside federal borders. Something generally seen as extremely rightwing. While the Rebs are more open for international trade on a less controlled basis.

Saying that one of the two big ones in the US is more the other way than the second is a gross oversimplification.

PS, it is also the reason for why many people say/claim there are only really one big party in the US.

[Antistia]

I really dislike this whole left-right analysis (though I use it myself). It's more complicated than that.

[Rmuffn]

LEFT AND RIGHT IT'S THAT SIMPLE, DEAL WITH IT


That's how I do politics. Communists < ----- > Capitalists ----- > (Super Extremely Right) --- > Racists/Nazis

[Rmuffn]

Once you go black you never go back??

[corleth]

As much as people argue over British politics. "Fuck you middle class conservatives!" "Damn you poor labour muggles", they still have a lot of policies in common. I am so pleased we don't have to pick between Romney and Obama. They campaign so differently. Far right or left. The US needs an inbetween.

You don't what you're talking about, mate. Democrats and Republicans are much too close together in terms of policy to have any real substantial change on America (you just had to look at the foreign policy debate to see that). Same in Britain. Labour, Conservative, Republican, Democrat; they all represent the capital class with varying degrees of zeal.

Luckily, in England there is still some kind of class-consciousness to unite the majority of people and demand not to be punished for the mistakes of a rotten system; to have power in the workers hands. It's waining, but its still there. Just support the General Strike taking place across parts of Europe on November 14th. The current order is at a crossroads, we've been suffering due to capitalism's contradictions and crises for four years now, and for the majority its not getting any better; anarchists/communist/leftists clash with police-backed fascists in Greece, the long marriage between capitalism and liberal democracy has gone, China operate in an authoritarian manner that is arguably even more 'productive' now and if other countries base themselves off that model... oh dear.

Still, congrats to Obama. It'll be a lot better for the women of America under him than Romney, I don't think it'll be any better for the pakistani's getting hit by drone strikes though.

Spoiler:

[Amaryl]

I do find it interesting that the right wing party in the us, has red as its colour, while the left sports blue.

Saying "Left" about the democratic part is in quite a lot rather stupid.

Yes, on some issues they are to the left of the Republicans. Yet on many others they are to the right. THey twist and twirl around each other.
One example is that the Democrats are more often than not far more protectionistic than the Republicans. And want higher trade tariffs for importing from outside federal borders. Something generally seen as extremely rightwing. While the Rebs are more open for international trade on a less controlled basis.

Saying that one of the two big ones in the US is more the other way than the second is a gross oversimplification.

PS, it is also the reason for why many people say/claim there are only really one big party in the US.

You're missing the point.

It's about image.

I find it interesting, that the self proclaimed Right-wing party, the republicans, distance themselves so much from socialism and communism as the ultimate evil, equal to hitler, but have red as their colour.

It isn't about what they actually are. Its what they say they are, and how they present that. Considering Image has nothing to do with reality.

[corleth]

You're missing the point.

It's about image.

election summed up, everyone can go home now

[Antistia]

China operate in an authoritarian manner that is arguably even more 'productive' now and if other countries base themselves off that model

Define productive (to begin with).

[Feydor]

Still, congrats to Obama. It'll be a lot better for the women of America under him than Romney, I don't think it'll be any better for the pakistani's getting hit by drone strikes though.

Spoiler:

You've probably read this report, but incase you haven't :

Spoiler:

[Drustai]

I do find it interesting that the right wing party in the us, has red as its colour, while the left sports blue.

As an American, I couldn't see anyone but the right using red. It's a strong, hostile color, which perfectly fits the Republicans' aggressive and extreme political strategies.

[Vaell]

As much as people argue over British politics. "Fuck you middle class conservatives!" "Damn you poor labour muggles", they still have a lot of policies in common. I am so pleased we don't have to pick between Romney and Obama. They campaign so differently. Far right or left. The US needs an inbetween.

You don't what you're talking about, mate. Democrats and Republicans are much too close together in terms of policy to have any real substantial change on America (you just had to look at the foreign policy debate to see that). Same in Britain. Labour, Conservative, Republican, Democrat; they all represent the capital class with varying degrees of zeal.

Luckily, in England there is still some kind of class-consciousness to unite the majority of people and demand not to be punished for the mistakes of a rotten system; to have power in the workers hands. It's waining, but its still there. Just support the General Strike taking place across parts of Europe on November 14th. The current order is at a crossroads, we've been suffering due to capitalism's contradictions and crises for four years now, and for the majority its not getting any better; anarchists/communist/leftists clash with police-backed fascists in Greece, the long marriage between capitalism and liberal democracy has gone, China operate in an authoritarian manner that is arguably even more 'productive' now and if other countries base themselves off that model... oh dear.

Still, congrats to Obama. It'll be a lot better for the women of America under him than Romney, I don't think it'll be any better for the pakistani's getting hit by drone strikes though.

Spoiler:

I think you completely misunderstood what I was saying. It was late when I typed it and I was moderately drunk so I'll reword it. Their policies are either far right or left. I wasn't saying Obama is as far left as the greenest tree, I was implying that in US politics, they don't really go for middle ground conclusions. It is very radical in comparison to British politics.

And the colour red can be very hostile but also holds all the connotations for love and warmth!

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