Tythalos' death on 14.12 CoL

Just because the hands might be larger doesnt mean more force, it was purely impossible to do so after what i heard about the whole situation, so not only was it god emoting, the whole action was purely stupid and he could likely have shot your face off before his neck would be snapped.

Fascintating as Sanara's predictable stupidity isnt...

...mind flaming and de-railing in a different thread?

Thankyou.

Off with her head, I say!

Indeed this is a CoL thread! For my Part i was there to spread the word on the scourge who are in the north and get some cannon fod... er paladins on side. Enjoyed it... and I even got to argue against you lightdogs in public and no one minded.

Apart from Tythalos. He was etching your name into his soul so he would not forget at the time. Yes it was a great event all in all. I look forward to the next one!

A female draenei can compete with a male human in strength.

A male draenei can compete with a male orc.

The two latters, orc is stronger in most cases, also depending on the individual's average size and training.

And Sanara did "swirl" around while holding Tyth, slamming his head against a bench, AFTER which he emoted pulling his guns, probably not having seen her emote yet.

She emotes snapping his neck - "Sanara easily snaps his neck." or something like that.


Nonetheless, you did rather ignore Riversworth(whom i forgot the ingame name of)'s emote when doing it. And it all's stupid, you did something without consent, completely ending his char, his progress, his fun, with something he created. Then you just want to waltz away without punishment because you yourself don't want consiquence. That's extremly low.

IC I'd say no Draenei community, and Draenei are quite peaceful in nature, would allow her to be any sort of leader. Furthermore, she'd be sentenced to death in every case of a human nation's laws. Only IC sense there is.

And you owe him it, for having been so cold as to decide that his life is yours to take. Then being snappy about that decision oocly.

Since I'm the one that has to sort this mess, I may try and grab people involved for a discussion tomorrow OOC'ly. Bare in mind that I won't let the OOC circumstances of all this actually effect any IC decision Om' makes, but I'd rather know all the details.

I'll be online most of the evening.

I must admit I did find what happend very supprising both ic and ooc and i am supprised an attempt was not used But as the imediat drama didnt hapen I didnt mention it.. and neather will i now as i think it has already been discussed to death frim monrenas point of view i thing this event went well.... i enjoyed it and added a bit of fear to monrena and later she learnd some supprising things about the chapter so all is good for monrena supprsed all round

Dont put your OOC needs infront of proper RP. Let her die, create a new toon, RP with it 'till SW:TOR lanches, leave.

Ledgic Caan wrote:Since I'm the one that has to sort this mess, I may try and grab people involved for a discussion tomorrow OOC'ly. Bare in mind that I won't let the OOC circumstances of all this actually effect any IC decision Om' makes, but I'd rather know all the details.

I'd like to point out that I dont want the regiment to have anything to do with it. Both ICly and OOCly. I tried, I failed. Thats it for me.

Borian/Gohman wrote:Dont put your OOC needs infront of proper RP..

Excuse me, but lol.

And with that I think all respect I had for you is gone. You are just lashing out now meaninglessly. I can forgive not wanting ic death, it is the pig headed and unreasonable conduct you have shown after the event that really stinks. Really good example to set your guild.

Lexgrad wrote:And with that I think all respect I had for you is gone. You are just lashing out now meaninglessly.

Actually I am just amused that he called Tythalos RP "proper RP". It made me laugh IRL.

Lexgrad wrote:I can forgive not wanting ic death, it is the pig headed and unreasonable conduct you have shown after the event that really stinks.

Oh, yes. Because I have been completley unreasonable and selfish...

Allow me to retort to every single retard who has spoken out against me tonight;

Tythalos character has died. It was his own fault for provoking the situation and not raising any kind of flag when he was killed, and the fact that the character was already about to be scrapped makes the whole exercise meaningless.

The fact that he throws a hissy fit about the matter points to nothing short of a pathetic grab for attention, and my attempts to reach a reasonable compromise was responded to by trollin. Oh yes, guess what he did? He cut out the start of the conversation from his little screen cap so you wouldn't see the initiatial discussion where I try to settle the matter peacefully. Class act, fucktard.

Tonight I've had to deal with an insane amount of complete hypocrisy and inane bullshit. Most of the people railing against me have never even spoken to me, and the people who have spoken to me have expressed their deep concern that I don't play by their rules and make their RP better for them at the cost of my own.

I have tried to be reasonable and been burned for it, I have been bitched at for taking matters into my own hands when reason fails. I'm the bad guy here? Because your life is so fucking boring you need a nemesis? Jesus tittyfucking christ, people, get over yourselves.

I tried to be nice, but time and time again, the kind of backwards-ass, inbred fucktards who keep making themselves heard by screeching the loudest prove to me that just doesn't get me anywhere. So yeah, I'm the "bad guy".

Deal with it, chum.

Well Sanara, those insults surely doesn't help your case at all. Maybe some of us don't know the whole deal, but it has set off enough to make us lose a ton of respect for you and that's just how life is, the fact the character was about to be scrabbed, doesn't change a thing in this either.

You should have considered it and asked, that is what i and i'm sure many others here, wish for.

But let me ask, how is Tythalos' rp not proper?

Ave wrote:You should have considered it and asked, that is what i and i'm sure many others here, wish for.

But then, I ask, simply; What would change if I had asked? He would have allowed Sanara to kill the character because he was already about to scrap him, and this would have continued on exactly the same - because the fact that Sanara killed him wasn't even a problem until you and a handful of other people began squawking about it in this thread.

An emote becomes a god-emote when you disagree with the outcome. He did not disagree with me. If he had, I would have changed the outcome entirely. He did not, so I carried on.

Ave wrote:But let me ask, how is Tythalos' rp not proper?

He used the word "Xeno" IC. In the WarCraft universe. Soyeah.

Actually I am just amused that he called Tythalos RP "proper RP". It made me laugh IRL.

When have you -ever- roleplayed with Tythalos other than power/god emote killing him for no reason? Oh and for your above comment, I never agreed I just laughed so hard I was willing to change my plans for Tythalos to let you go about yours of being hung.

Oh, yes. Because I have been completley unreasonable and selfish...

Yes you are, you won't have your character die, you lolescape from jail, you take someone elses character who plans on -not- leaving for TOR and won't have yours die.

Allow me to retort to every single retard who has spoken out against me tonight;

Everyone. You're a retard if you speak out against the almighty Sanara!

Tythalos character has died. It was his own fault for provoking the situation and not raising any kind of flag when he was killed, and the fact that the character was already about to be scrapped makes the whole exercise meaningless.

It's my fault, I killed my own character tonight.. it had nothing to do with Sanara. The fact is I had an event planned this sunday to have Tythalos go missing. A part of a long plot with the Vanimedle family and the sword Verrine (some may remember). At what point did I give you permission to decide if my character should live or die? Who the hell are you anyway? It's MY character, -I- say when or why he dies.. not you.

The fact that he throws a hissy fit about the matter points to nothing short of a pathetic grab for attention,

What are you doing right now? Is your character dead? Then shut up.

my attempts to reach a reasonable compromise was responded to by trollin. Oh yes, guess what he did? He cut out the start of the conversation from his little screen cap so you wouldn't see the initiatial discussion where I try to settle the matter peacefully. Class act, fucktard.

Then tell us what you said before that? I print screened your "compromise". Why should you even have to compromise at all? I lost my character on someone else's terms, so should you. Your attempt at peace was kissing my ass with sweet talking before you dropped your bullshit "compromise" which I then print screened. Did you want me to embarrass you with your failed attempt at being nice too?

Tonight I've had to deal with an insane amount of complete hypocrisy and inane bullshit.

We've had to deal with yours. Let me give you an example as you clearly think the sun shines out of your arse.. You kill my character for some reason in an illegal manner and I let you do in as you obviously where not dumb enough to not expect the consequences, though you object to Sanara being put to death for this. Fact is I was fine with this, I thought it'd offer everyone something to talk about, something to roleplay about, maybe a few events and I thought it was what Sanara wanted as he clearly murdered someone infront of the Comunity of Light.. who would do that as a guild leader of a role playing guild if they.. do I even need to explain myself here?

and the people who have spoken to me have expressed their deep concern that I don't play by their rules and make their RP better for them at the cost of my own.

Sorry my heart doesn't ache with sympathy for you.. really. You have sacrificed so much tonight for the good of roleplay.. I am a mere worm in your shadow!

Finally.. the cherry on the cake!

So yeah, I'm the "bad guy".

Deal with it, chum.

No, I don't have to. I wipe my hands clean of you. In-Character Sanara was found hiding in Redridge Mountains, the Chapter dragged her out from her hole and beat her to death for her crimes. She is dead to us ICly. Other guilds may do as they wish. We don't want to have loose ends in something that isn't being retconned. Personally.. I can't wait to see the back of you. Go and play TOR, you won't be missed
End of discussion

Edit: Using the word Xeno which means alien is not proper roleplay to you, but a Draenei snapping a neck of someone because of this is?

I honestly don't see how xeno cannot be used in the warcraft universe, please explain.. It's a simple term about something strange.. Or not liking foreigners, correct? Any character in this world can have as much personality as any of us in the real world and not like what they personally find strange. So using that word doesn't equal bad rp.

And i will agree with Tythalos' last part of the post.. Dead and gone.

You force things upon other people, then other people might force it right back on you.

Tythalos wrote:It's my fault, I killed my own character tonight.. it had nothing to do with Sanara.

That's pretty much it. You were the one in control of the scenario and you chose to go with it my way, only to change your mind later. There's really nothing else to say about it, other than perhaps "Neener neener dumpster tramp, got your wiener in a clamp!"

So mature, i'm impressed!

Tythalos went with the horrible way of how you displayed your rp, for the sake of some form of realism and made the best of it in the end for the purpose of future rp.
Yet -you- are the one refusing to do the same, face the results of your idiotic act while you stand as a leader of a community and what you did in public. There is no way out for you in this case to have your char brought to justice just like you claim there have been IC no way out for Tythalos. Then follow your own words for your char, wether you like it or not. Who ever said Tythalos liked having his char killed, the progress made and the stuff planned?

Exactly, shove your dickfaced comments up your own arse, no matter how much bitching you've gotten, imo you deserved them fair and square. Come down your self-claimed pedestral because you aint all that, you aint that almighty and you deffinatly aint that great.
Might not know you, but the act itself already proves what and who you are before I even tried. And you sir are what people call an internet retard that thinks he can hide behind his screen and be so super awesome with his words and stroke his own online epeen.

Well, now that's off my chest too and I can continue with the character IC killed and brought to justice too.

Respect that I didn't avoid your attempt to kill my character in front of the community of light, pull a miracle off and escape (like you did when you where reprimanded), faced the consequences of your actions and for some strange reason expect you to do the same.. what -exactly- where you planning to accomplish? Did you think the CoL would applaud Sanara for such behaviour? Get away scott free? Establish a strong and respected image for Ere Argus and the Draenei people?

When in lore has any Draenei ever done this to someone for voicing their opinion, mindlessly murdering someone? You've basically shattered any credibility in the guild you have worked to create and left this game on a horrifically sour note. Congratulations. I wish other -real- Draenei roleplayers the upmost success in salvaging the pieces Sanara leaves behind and I hope we can perhaps place Sanara behind us for the sake of other Draenei roleplayers. Perhaps place her actions down to insanity of witchcraft and acknowledge she is now dead.

This ends here.

Tythalos wrote:what -exactly- where you planning to accomplish? Did you think the CoL would applaud Sanara for such behaviour? Get away scott free? Establish a strong and respected image for Ere Argus and the Draenei people?

Sanara wasn't going to kill him. Then he tried to kill her, and died for trying. She had no plan, she was prepared to face the charges of assault for her actions, having satisfied her own morals. She's Chaotic Good, that means reckless and oftentimes not thinking too far ahead when she acts - and sometimes accidents happen.