Tythalos' death on 14.12 CoL

.. True Amaryl. It was an empty threat to be released however. He never expected her to actually snap his neck, she was only choking him afterall. He knew who she was and what she was supposed to represent, infront of the whole CoL he would not have expected that in his wildest dreams.

So you're saying.. She snapped his neck by.. Holding his neck?

Drustai wrote:

Sharyssa/Adenah wrote:You still do not make a rash move like that, possible or not. Then just allow someone to pull you off with a "Sanara is about to snap his neck unless stopped" from a person that tries to be a seriour rp'er that would the least to be expected.

She already had her hands around his neck, on the ground. She was about to let go. Then he pulled out his pistols at her. So she snapped it. Escalation typically is not a very good way of encouraging someone to stand down.

Not to mention, that was all done IC, without any OOC arguments at all. Drama only started when people decided to come into this thread.

Then lets see the proper IC consequences. At the end of the day he asked her to release him as he drew the flintlocks, not firing. He was innocent and she will be convicted of manslaughter and put to death. You cannot deny that. If she escapes with banishment or whipping.. who knows what will happen.

Corleth wrote:
Seriously though, I couldn't believe my eyes when I read about it. One of the most oddly amusing scenarios to occur at a 'community of Light', committed by a draenei no less. Let the propaganda machine roll.

This is going to make for some very interesting roleplay on Thelos, that's to be sure.

Let the damage control commence!

"All Draenei are demons"

That helps Thelos?

I'd say the next CoL meeting should be about peace and freedom of speech.

This is pure gold IC for some upcoming stuff I have planned

Is it your resignation and suicide Braiden?

Lexgrad wrote:Is it your resignation and suicide Braiden?

That rounded off with a festival of peace and acceptance clearly.

Crojwin wrote:If Sanara's character will not be executed, it would be ridiculous. THat's what should happen, execution!

The regiment was not able to deal with it. Sanara being put to justice is up to the NPC guard(So for Sanara her/himself to decide) or if any other guard guild would like to deal with it, by all means.

Samian wrote:Sanara being put to justice is up to the NPC guard(So for Sanara her/himself to decide)

I'm discussing this in-game currently to see if there can be a satisfactory development.

Edit: Apparently people are butthurt and there's no satisfaction anywhere. I guess I can live with a few whiny tosspots complaining about that.

Spoiler:

A screenshot, what really happened.

In my opinion, there can be no way of Sanara remaining a leader/matriarch of a Draenei commune after this. You should have thought about it before you did something so mind-numbingly stupid IC.

So, satisfactory development from an IC PoV could only be:
1) Sanara going on trial and being judged
2) Sanara somehow escaping and living in the hills somewhere, preferably even Outland

However, 'satisfactory development' seems to mean what is satisfactory for you alone.

I still vote for a horribly painful execution, no way around it, the fact Sanara escaped prison just randomly is horrible enough.

After seeing the screen, I even lose more respect for you because of snapping someone's neck without asking ooc while you ooc go "Then I do whatever" when trying to discuss matters. To be honest I would not even find it too far fetched for Tythalos to find a way to be brought back or retcon the entire bullshit you caused.

Not having your own char killed now for what stupid stuff you did IC would be honestly too far fetched because people can just use what you did against yourself and have you get no single way out of it, aka god-emote without consent.

And edit: Why the -hell- does a proper rp guild even keep Sanara in their guild?

Corleth wrote:You should have thought about it before you did something so mind-numbingly stupid IC.

The same could be said for Tythalos pulling his guns.

Corleth wrote:So, satisfactory development from an IC PoV could only be:
1) Sanara going on trial and being judged
2) Sanara somehow escaping and living in the hills somewhere, preferably even Outland

'Satisfactory development' does not mean what is satisfactory for you alone.

Sharyssa/Adenah wrote:After seeing the screen, I even lose more respect for you because of snapping someone's neck without asking ooc while you ooc go "Then I do whatever" when trying to discuss matters.

I tried to discuss the issue and got blown off by Tythalos because he was butthurt about it. So, since I can't move the discussion ahead, I'm going to do whatever.

I didn't see any butthurt pointers in that screenshot at all, it's however you who seems butthurt for having a character not being viewed as a god by everyone, just my two cents.

Excuse me? I posted the conversation we had just now. *Sanara looks up* Yesss... who looks stupid now? You're not fooling anyone mate.

Sanara wrote:'Satisfactory development' does not mean what is satisfactory for you alone.

It is what makes sense ICly, not even necessarily what I want. What you want is a development satisfactory for you alone i.e "wait can't I just stay in the Exodar?" - yeah, no.

He could have -easily- ignored your bullshitting emote without attempt or consent and NOBODY would have frowned at him for not forcing a dead onto his character. So being butthurt now wouldn't make much sense now would it?

Ave is right, you're the one acting up. Wanting to save your arse without reason or logic to your rp now would just show how reckless you acted in wanting to kill a character off and can't deal with your own consequenses.

Not to mention you were choking him right? In what way is it not logical to try and find a persuative motivator for him IC to get your char IC off him? No instead you snapped his neck, because that's the total logical thing to do as matriarch in public etc.....? O_o

For the record, if you're choking someone, you need to move your hands to be able to snap ones neck and also use alot of force and a momentum to do so, you cant do it with your fingers wrapped around someones neck. Unless you're super strong.. Like super..

And there we go! The logical reason for ATLEAST having written a change, or an attempt which could have been interupted if there wasn't an agreement on the character being killed.
It makes sense and shows respect for fellow rp'ers to try and find such a moment to allow them a little bit of choice.

All this drama, as it's called, is only showing how many people care for rp to be done properly, and how the community thinks alike about what happened tonight. Honestly I'm glad to see this and don't see it as drama but people speaking their mind, which is what a forum is for. There's a dissagreement, no insults are truely used so no reason to plead for it to end either.
Despite it having happened IC, the way it happened was horrible and deserves an OOC attention for a moment..

My piece of advice to Ere Argus by the way, if you want to keep respectful credibility, lose Sanara from your guild. My two cents here.

Tythalos wrote:I posted the conversation we had just now. You're not fooling anyone mate.

I am not trying to. I can easily point out the part of the conversation (somewhere in the middle) where it became obvious to me that you just don't give a shit.

Tythalos wrote:To [Sanara]: Have her die now, honourably. Then you can go play TOR.
To [Sanara]: That is the only way I see people stop whining from.

That's not reaching a settlement, that's just being a tosspot.

Ave wrote:For the record, if you're choking someone, you need to move your hands to be able to snap ones neck and also use alot of force and a momentum to do so, you cant do it with your fingers wrapped around someones neck. Unless you're super strong.. Like super..

Super like being twice the size of the other person? >_>

Sharyssa/Adenah wrote:There's a dissagreement, no insults are truely used so no reason to plead for it to end either.

Sharyssa/Adenah wrote:My piece of advice to Ere Argus by the way, if you want to keep respectful credibility, lose Sanara from your guild. My two cents here.

/lol

Sanara wrote:

Tythalos wrote:I posted the conversation we had just now. You're not fooling anyone mate.

I am not trying to. I can easily point out the part of the conversation (somewhere in the middle) where it became obvious to me that you just don't give a shit.

Tythalos wrote:To [Sanara]: Have her die now, honourably. Then you can go play TOR.
To [Sanara]: That is the only way I see people stop whining from.

That's not reaching a settlement, that's just being a tosspot.

Ave wrote:For the record, if you're choking someone, you need to move your hands to be able to snap ones neck and also use alot of force and a momentum to do so, you cant do it with your fingers wrapped around someones neck. Unless you're super strong.. Like super..

Super like being twice the size of the other person? >_>

If you cared to be a decent roleplayer, you would of saw Tythalos was a High Elf So no, you where not twice the size of him.. even if that did mean you would be classed as godly strong.. which it doesn't. Regardless I think you should give it a break now, pardon the pun, you're not fooling anyone.

Sanara wrote:

Tythalos wrote:To [Sanara]: Have her die now, honourably. Then you can go play TOR.
To [Sanara]: That is the only way I see people stop whining from.

That's not reaching a settlement, that's just being a tosspot.

You're digging your own grave, because we can toss your own ridiculous emote on how you killed him right back at you because you didn't even bother asking. So who didn't give a shit again?