Blizzcon 2011 (October 21-22nd)

Lini wrote:They were just stat-sticks anyway.

Not when it comes to rp

Lini wrote:They were just stat-sticks anyway.

Ever heard of something called RP?

No more rapiers for Chapter Witch-hunters... why blizz?! WHY?!!

Drustai wrote:

Lini wrote:They were just stat-sticks anyway.

Ever heard of something called RP?

No, as a matter of fact I haven't.
Please explain in simple terms so that I could understand. I can be a bit slow from time to time.

This is stupid.
Wow is stupid.

/6yearold.

Maybe hunters will get their ranged weapon on their back or waist now. I'm currently roleplaying a hunter and wouldn't mind. You'd generally pick a hunter as a class when creating a roleplay character for their ranged weapon capabilities and pets/traps/etc. Though I can understand that some characters may be lost without a melee weapon. They really should change the name to Archer now though.

Drustai wrote:

Ranged Weapons

Hunter minimum range is gone!
Hunter melee weapon is gone!
Ranged slot for all other characters are gone.
Relics are gone.
Rogues and warriors can now throw their melee weapon
Wands become main hand weapons

Yeah I'm sorry but fuck you, Blizzard.

The first line made me go this face combined with this face
The second line made me go:

The line after that made me add:


Great way to fuck your rolplayers in the bloody ass blizzard. Great way.

Cyrdain:
Ranged weapon on the back. Awesome.
It is that for most hunters not being able to have a Melee weapon at all looks stupid. Since outside of Gameplay Mechanics you'd never want a bow in close combat.
Same, for warriors, rogues, etc it's nice to have a bow/gun or crossbow. What ever, for roleplaying.

WHY IS A WAND A MAIN HAND WEAPON?!?!?

Because Ranged Slots are removed. Simple as that!

I suppose, but why would an Archer want to be in close combat? Synergy with other heroes is a must now. Nobody is an almighty god of azeroth anymore. I'm looking forward to 'rangers' going into combat with the guys who can get all up in their opponents face and then the sneaky ones slipping behind for some backstabbing.

As before and currently, in roleplay a 'Hunter' can technically do all of this *looks at witch hunters*.

I for one am actually looking forward to having some in-built weaknesses people need to consider when creating characters. Like a Hunter in close quarters, a warrior at range.

Lyniath wrote:WHY IS A WAND A MAIN HAND WEAPON?!?!?

Don't mind if they give us cool Harry Potter-style wand casting animations.

It may function as a replacement for one-handed weapons (swords/daggers/maces) for wand-using classes. So wand+spellbook instead of dagger/sword/mace+spellbook.

But wands are so bad, but just ok enough to use as a substitute for spells when mana runs out. There's a ranged slot for a reason!
I think blizzard are deliberately screwing up the game now.

Cyrdain wrote:I suppose, but why would an Archer want to be in close combat? Synergy with other heroes is a must not. Nobody is an almighty god of azeroth anymore. I'm looking forward to 'rangers' going into combat with the guys who can get all up in their opponents face and then the sneaky ones slipping behind for some backstabbing.

Actually, RL archers were trained to be able to take down a knight at close range for self-defense. They didn't just try to shoot their bows at them in melee range.

And they still carried melee weapons. Just like a warrior or rogue should be able to carry a ranged weapon.

LESS CHOICES IS NEVER A GOOD THING.

Lyniath wrote:But wands are so bad, but just ok enough to use as a substitute for spells when mana runs out. There's a ranged slot for a reason!
I think blizzard are deliberately screwing up the game now.

One would assume that wands get their stats rebalanced for something more suitable for a main hand weapon.

Lini wrote:

Lyniath wrote:But wands are so bad, but just ok enough to use as a substitute for spells when mana runs out. There's a ranged slot for a reason!
I think blizzard are deliberately screwing up the game now.

One would assume that wands get their stats rebalanced for something more suitable for a main hand weapon.

This.

Stop justifying bad choices! The game is being more limited.

Alright :S no need to abuse my eyes with you capital letters

Well I for one, who roleplays a hunter character, will not miss my melee weapon. I tend to play my hunter with great care. Using the environment, traps and my ranged weapon to keep my foe at bay and slowly wear him down to get a *headshot*. If I ever need to, I'll just emote using a dagger.

I never said less choice was a good thing, I mean having to actually work with premade weaknesses is only healthy for roleplay. Sure people will whine about not having a massive axe to charge people with while being an expert archer and swordsman, magical shit to counter spells and super sneaky like a rogue.. but they are nothing but powergamers in my eyes. Sure be pro with a sword but I see too much strength in the current mechanic of having massive axes and stuff, being sneaky -and- being the best archers in azeroth so I use this to justify the removal of one of many aspects when roleplay comes to it. My opinion, not the rule.

Lyniath wrote:Stop justifying bad choices! The game is being more limited.

Sorry? No. I'll keep my opinion thankyou and will express it like you where just doing about wands and pandaren/vykrul.

Sorry...
Forums have a habit of making me snap ^-^;;;

[quote="Muzjhath"][quote="Drustai"]

Great way to fuck your rolplayers in the bloody ass blizzard. Great way.

Did you even check the new Talent / Spell System?

I posted that before they even started that pannel Frazl.
And I'm sad. Because finaly Talents seem to be true choises.
So, two good things (talents, and No minimum range for hunters. TAKE THAT FROSTMAGES!) Mixed with lots (imo) bad.

Frazl wrote:

Muzjhath wrote:Great way to fuck your rolplayers in the bloody ass blizzard. Great way.

Did you even check the new Talent / Spell System?

Yes. It's crap.

Did I just see Warcraft 4 there somewhere?

Ixirar wrote:I hate Chris Metzen. Everything about this Xpac is so fucking awesome I'm ready to cry because of me not planning to play it, untill I remember that it's fucking a fucking Disney expansion.

It's been confirmed by Metzen himself a few 'cons back that he pretty much just gets handed a paper from the higher-ups with game changes that he somehow has to make work lorewise. I'm sure he's just as annoyed as the rest of us when it comes to a lot of the lore changes, such as the night elf mages, etc.

Oskar wrote:

Ixirar wrote:I hate Chris Metzen. Everything about this Xpac is so fucking awesome I'm ready to cry because of me not planning to play it, untill I remember that it's fucking a fucking Disney expansion.

It's been confirmed by Metzen himself a few 'cons back that he pretty much just gets handed a paper from the higher-ups with game changes that he somehow has to make work lorewise. I'm sure he's just as annoyed as the rest of us when it comes to a lot of the lore changes, such as the night elf mages, etc.

He claimed credits for making this xpac being about Pandas so my hate is on him.

He's also Blizzard's front figure in regards to lore, so lore related hate goes to him.