Siela/Elizabeth back in the RP community?

[Rae Wulfgnar]

Erm...So I don't know how to put this.

Well I don't know what to say really, I have been on this server for over two years now and have enjoyed meeting new people and roleplaying with them over the months. Some good people, some bad.

But I've been chatting to Siela for a while. I know his reputation/trolling/griefing was pretty awful to some people in whatever way and for whatever reason (I dont get involved in disputes.

I'm also not the type of person to hate some-one just because others do, I like to make judgements for myself and will treat others with respect as I know there are always two sides to every story. Whatever happened, many moons ago to make people hate each other is not my concern.

I want to give Siela a second chance.
He is in my rp guild on horde as an alt, he will follow rp rules and behave otherwise he will be kicked, I have told him his behaviour will not be tolerated. I believe that he wants to change and get back into the community, and if that means he'll stop trolling/griefing people then I'll give him that chance. (no matter how short lived it could be?) If it means he'll stop doing it, why not? He knows if he wants to get back into the community he'll have to prove himself.

All I ask is that you don't hate my guild because of this, or myself or any of my members. He wont be attending rp events or pvp events for a while until he is trusted by myself and Hellvern.

Instead of whispering me ingame, here you can give your thoughts/reactions to this and I will try and answer them as best as I can. I would really rather try and help people than hate them and make it worse.

[Morinth]

I love mah Varekk so... I say good luck! \o Siela Rehab is now in motion! <3

[Geldar]

Good luck, but I do not believe people can change over night.

[Kristeas Sunbinder]

I'm not active at the moment so I don't have much say in anything, but you had me at those monkeys.

[The Misty Beast]

I thought that kid needed help IRL, not in a bloody game.

[Lexgrad]

good for you mate! I hope it works out for the guild and for him. Give every one a chance in my book.

[Rmuffn]

Hey, if you find it fun to have your rp corpse camped. Then whatever.

But I know that kid, since he was my friend back in the Chapter of Holy Anethion, but I disowned him when he started to gank SGE repeatedly.

About two months ago or so he came back begging to be my friend again. I said to him.
"Stop ganking and griefing roleplay and I will be your friend. Otherwise you can just piss off. Cause I hate what you do. What you do is spitting upon what I love to do; Roleplay."

He choose ganking. Because clearly ganking RP was so much fun.

[Cathee Norris]

Good luck indeed. But he won't be allowed back on the forum until his ban run out (which is by the time he's hopefully grown up a bit).

[Hellvern/Ben]

Yes, since the Blackbloods is now moving towards a state of reformation we are accepting members whose past may not be perfect, but whom wish to actually try and make up for previous misdoings (as is one of our new aims).

We are certainly -not- maintaining the usual drama driven hate appeal, no matter how justified it may seem, we're not lowering ourselves to it. It should also be considered in the past far worse things have happened in the world and people have gotten over these things. In World of Warcraft a gaming community we certainly have no desire to have such 'emotions' blight the gaming world. So we'd rather reduce this through a helping hand.

As the new acting OOC Part time GM of Blackbloods if you have a serious issue with this you may contact me. Contacting other members of the guild in an attempt to try and persuade, intimidate or isolate anyone over the current stance of this matter will be seen as going against the server rules.

Equally if our new not so admired members do not keep with server rules, break rp rules, or indeed Clan rules, so long as you have -Evidence- then we will take action on the matter.

[Rae Wulfgnar]

@Geldar, It will take some time and I just hope it's not like one of the chucky movies, where his wife gets him to promise not to kill any-more. I hope it doesnt end up like that.

@Trave, Well I think taking a different approach than to just threaten him not to do it, might help him more.

@Saihna, Hopefully. We shall see.

[Ledgic]

Well, the kid has been a massive douche, but I think the word that needs to be in bold here is kid. Not a fan of him, but I am a fan of this sort of stuff.

Hope it all works out and he doesn't attempt to drag your guild into the mud.

[Eodan]

With his prominent activity in the Campaign, being the main Loller and griefer all around, last time I saw him was 2 days ago spamming his LOL macro.. I will not throw prejudice to your guild, Wulfgnar. But as for Celltrex himself? He made the same song to Gunnell (another lovely face) when joining the Greymane Era. I voiced my concerns and got them spat back in my face rather unpleasantly by Cell himself.

Personally, I wish your guild luck and if he changes, for the better. Though from my front, the guy should get to a PvP server, where other cool kids spam lol macro's like he does.

[Hellvern/Ben]

We will keep everyones words in mind and we will be watching him.

Thanks for the feedback by the way everyone. It is very much appreciated.

[Ave/Sariella]

Yeah i saw him trolling the SW general chat the other day, not sure he'll change or stop, i kicked him out of a guild for it before.

Good luck though!

[Whiston Farley]

I will not hate your guild Varekk!

But at Siela?

Spoiler:

HA HA!
!!L O L!!

[Rmuffn]

I didn't threaten, I simply told him the deals.
I recall he said he'd do nearly anything to be my friend again.

But I really don't like griefing, and he refused to give it up.
The choice was fairly easy & simple though.

"One or the other."


I doubt he'll change.

[Muzjhath]

While I applaud your initiative I have small hopes for it.

And my dislike for Cell is very founded on several bad experiences with him not only ganking SGE (and other roleplayers repeatedly).
Him alone wouldn't have been that much of a bother. It is with him, when he was still a part of the RP community comming with griefers from several guilds to attack SGE. Aswell as ruening a major wPvP champaign due to telling everyone and their uncle when and where, so the battles became one huge tard of fucked up CCing.

Still everyone can change. If you manage to some how get him to grow up a bit it'll most likely help him later in life. You should keep an eye out for trouble still. As mentioned just the other day he was the leader of the OOCsquad. (Yet again).
He joined a bunch of gankers pretty quickly when they started killing RPers repeatedly...
And those just the last two months, so good luck and all, but maybe go for lesser bad eggs first.

[Guest]

I hope you expect him to behave properly all the time, and not only when he's on his "rp alt" ^^

[Rae Wulfgnar]

@Muzjhath,
I agree, its a huge risk I'm taking to try and get him to turn around his way of thinking. While he is in my guild he is under my watch and on a very tight leash as to where and what he's doing. I trust his words that he wants to change, and seems genuine enough for me to believe that and hoping that being in my guild and around mature players will influence him to grow up. It could be short lived or he could actually changed, I am not sure...but I can only try.

@Cirenae,
I can try, He is on my Real ID so i'll be watching him like a hawk!

[Guest]

I will not hate your guild Varekk!

But at Siela?

Spoiler:

HA HA!
!!L O L!!

Reminded me of someone linking a 4 minute vid of someone laughing on a thread a few months back, but can't remember name of the video/thread for the life of me >_<

[Lexgrad]

Look really we can, as a community, consign him to the out side and just put up with him doing the HA HA/L O L every time we rp. Or we can take action to try to get him involved. He is clearly a person who is hurting IRL im sure he could do with friends. Lets give him every chance. I will be any how.

[Morinth]

I can try, He is on my Real ID so i'll be watching him like a hawk!

WHY AIN'T I ON THERE? *is jealous*

[Cid]

Lets see, how much proof is needed to convince he's an griefer? His unreasonable hate for SGE, he constantly ganked RP'ers (of both factions, do mind), he joined SoN when they arrived, and afaik he's in their renamed guild Evolution.

I'd say leave him be, ignore him unless impossible, and he'll soon transfer away.

[Gogol]

I remember when this person brought endless of flying gankers to a wpvp campaign.

[Mandui]

I was there when he snapped and decided to go ganker mode. He keeps repeating that this happened because of SGE rogues ganking him during the Duskwood Campaign, but in truth it was only a single rogue doing this, who even left SGE shortly after. Cell's been in that ganking frenzy ever since, something I'm having trouble justifying, and on top of that, like others have said already, he has tried a few times to re-join the RP community by convincingly promising to change, which always concluded with him continuing to be his griefing self.

I find the initiative really considerate and cute, but I remain reserved towards the results. Good luck with it anyway.

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