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Helsythe wrote:I did a bit of reading on wikipedia, 40k wiki and some forum. Mind you, it really was a little bit.

I can't really create an image of how I should imagine this 40k stuff though. It's basicly a tabletop game with "toys" ( I know that they are not just toys! Not sure how else to call them ;p ) and as you play, with others, you need to use your imagination like RP? And are there rules? Any board you use which is the world? And what about all the lore and the ongoing story? How does that fit in the games you play? While reading a bit of stuff and seeing you lot discuss stuff here I also gained a feeling as if this is so much more then a tabletop game?

I'm really confused about the concept of warhammer 40k, seems interesting though. Perhaps someone could explain it nice and simple?

Ataris wrote:

Amazing!

Geneviève wrote:
However, whilst we’re on the topic, this is what I think of the Emperor:

The Emperor is a colossal failure, an ignorant barbarian who was such an incompetent leader he placed his children in command of his legions rather than men who had proven themselves loyal, capable, and good leaders. Then he had the audacity to whine when his children all started fighting each other. That is what nepotism leads to. The emperor was a fool and deserved everything he got, he failed humanity and any who still hold faith in him are merely propping up his ailing reputation because of the warps mysterious property of reflecting not what is true, but what people perceive to be true. In effect making it true.

People are right to abuse and discredit the Emperor, If I was a citizen of the Imperium I’d do the same, were I not afraid of the totalitarian regime. A regime so aware of its own failures and inadequacies that it has to silence dissent and brutally keep it’s people in line with a genetically engineered super race, above and beyond the capabilities of those they are meant to protect, but in practise abuse and violate them.

Geneviève wrote:Precisely that, the Tau. At the end of the day I'd rather serve in an army fighting for the 'Greater Good', than a decaying corpse who, it's speculated, is on the brink of dying. His Golden Throne the device he uses to magnify his presence in the warp is what is attracting the Hive Fleets towards Terra.

Besides, you're speaking to a Brit. I refuse to believe a conscripted army of space marines and guardsmen can ever match an army of professional volunteers. Why don't the Imperium hurry the fuck up and recruit one of those?

The thin red line! Huzzah!

Geneviève wrote:Precisely that, the Tau. At the end of the day I'd rather serve in an army fighting for the 'Greater Good', than a decaying corpse who, it's speculated, is on the brink of dying. His Golden Throne the device he uses to magnify his presence in the warp is what is attracting the Hive Fleets towards Terra.

Besides, you're speaking to a Brit. I refuse to believe a conscripted army of space marines and guardsmen can ever match an army of professional volunteers. Why don't the Imperium hurry the fuck up and recruit one of those?

The thin red line! Huzzah!

Precisely that, the Tau. At the end of the day I'd rather serve in an army fighting for the 'Greater Good'.

The Necrons' story is one of ancient betrayal. Eons ago, the Necrontyr race clung to their short lives in fear of oblivion at the hands of their massive and ravaging star. They pushed the limits of science in an effort to lengthen their lives, but to no avail. In their desperation, they looked into space and discovered ethereal beings feeding on the energies of whole stars. They named these beings "the Star Gods," or C'tan. The C'tan offered the Necrontyr people immortality, but only at a terrible price. It is uncertain if the Necrontyr knew this price, but their race was completely purged and transferred into new metal bodies, stripped of thought and self.1

The C'tan are enormous energy beings who were given physical embodiments by the Necrontyr. They encased the C'tan inside vast lumps of their living metal, the same material they used in their spacefaring ships. The metal mutated into the shape desired by the personality of the being inside. The Night Bringer was forged into a dark figure with a large cloak, adding to the fear it already inspires, and the Deceiver was formed into a wily shape. Originally there were a large number of C'tan, but due to the machinations of the Deceiver, this number reduced to four, The Night Bringer, The Deceiver, The Void Dragon, and The Outsider. An ancient Eldar poem refers to a C'tan who sleeps on a Vaul-Moon (an Eldar term for factory world) and is known as the Dragon. This is widely believed to refer to the Noctis Labyrinth on Mars. The locations of the other remaining C'tan are unknown.

Once the Necrontyr accepted the C'tan's offer and their life-essence was encased in living metal bodies, their minds and senses became dulled until they became slaves of the C'tan. The C'tan used these warrior-slaves to harvest the lifeforms of the galaxy so the Star Gods could feast on souls and the newly christened Necrons served this purpose very well.1

Now focusing on gathering souls, the C'tan assaulted the dominant species at the time, the Old Ones, and began an unstoppable march upon their domain. The Necrons burst into the Old Ones strongest fortresses, overcoming their magicks and technology and forced the Old Ones to seed planets with life to help fight the C'tan, including the Eldar and Krork. These races had the ability to use the Warp to defend themselves, as the C'tan seemed harmed only by psychic energy. Gradually, the Old Ones were forced back by the relentless push of the C'tan and billions of souls were harvested for the Star Gods, increasing their power to incredible proportions.

The C'tan had been working on a plan to cripple the Old Ones, and eventually it came to fruition. They burst into and destroyed the Webways discovered by the Old Ones. Without these portals, the Old Ones were unable to move troops throughout the galaxy. With the new races using so much Warp power for the purposes of killing, the benign creatures in the Warp mutated into the evil creatures they are today. At the precipice of victory, the Enslavers emerged from the now-tumultuous Warp and forced the C'tan and their slaves back, by preying on the younger races and starving them of the precious lifeforce they need to feed upon. The C'tan began to consume their own kind,eventually leaving only four remaining who then went into stasis to avoid the onslaught and allow the galaxy to repopulate without the psychic swarm so they could emerge and reconquer their empire. However, this kindled a single-minded determination in the C'tan to eliminate the only threat to their conquest, the Warp. Thus began the Great Work, the severing of the Materium and Immaterium so that the C'tan would go unchallenged once again.1

For countless years the Necrons remained in their deathless slumber in their tombs on many worlds as the Enslavers were defeated by the races the Old Ones created, this however, would not last. In 783.M41, the Eldar Farseer Eldrad Ulthran of Craftworld Ulthwé witnessed a vision where on the dead world of Maedrex, an Imperial Explorator team would arrive and unwittingly awaken the Necrons on that planet. To prevent this, the Eldar struck quickly and destroyed the Imperial ships before descending onto the planet where they purged it of the Necron presence.3 Later came the first reported contact between the Necrons and the Imperium of Man came in 897.M41 during the raid on Sanctuary 101 which was garrisoned by the Adepta Sororitas. At the time, the invaders were identified as an unknown form of xenos species but later reported as being the first encounter with the awakening Necrons. Its also later reported that the invaders did not attack the colony but instead emerged from the ground itself.3

In 936.M41, a tomb complex awoke on the planet Malbrede due to fighting between the Ultramarines and a Tau expeditionary force. With this new threat emerging, the two enemies joined forces to defeat the emerging Necrons. After the battle, Marneus Calgar committed Exterminatus on Malbrede, but allowed the Tau to evacuate their forces before destroying the world.3

it is uncertain if the Necrontyr knew this price

stripped of thought and self.

"Where there is nothing; where naught is grasped, there is the Isle of No-Beyond. Nirvāṇa do I call it — the utter extinction of aging and dying."