How much would you pay for Role-play?

Ever heard of a content patch?

There have been four inside WotLK right?
So 40 euro when it came out divided by four.
That's ten euro a pop.

Enough derailing :<

Rawr, No to RP payments of any sort UNLESS,


If Blizzard offered a way to change armor colour / design, I think I would pay for that. Or even create your own armour sets with no stats but simply for the look.
That would be worth paying for imo.

Perturbo wrote:
Well an MMO has two ways to make money

a) A monthly fee is charged to all users to play the game, then everything in the game is decided by work in the game, not by IRL cash.

OR

b) Free to play MMO! BUT, to make money, the best gear/spells is offered through purchase with IRL money, which leads to serious imbalances, the rich kid becoming a god when he has no skill whatsoever, and people actually spending all their money trying to compete and ruining their lives. Japanese/Korean MMO's do this sometimes.

Which would you prefer:3

You missed my point. In short, I was saying that I am already paying for more than I was promised originally (meaning patches on a more regular basis than we get at the moment). I don't agree to this. It's like paying 2 bucks for a bar of Snickers of 200 grams and finding out later they started putting less and less in the package, leaving you with only 150 grams of chocolate nutty goodness instead.

Well there's not always a reason for new content

But on topic...

For 4) and 5) I have the money, I could afford it. It would just be up to if it really was worth it or needed. IF it was up and going, popular and sucessful I would consider it but to decide I'd really have to see the details(if it hypothetically was introduced. Kinda like the remote auction house, 3 euro is nothing, and I have an iPhone, but I just dont need it at all.

I thought the spectral steed was quite the cash-makearoo.
I'm pretty sure a spectral wolf is being introduced?

I think we are paying enough as it is and all those things that Exaythe mentioned should be included without paying extra fees.

No to all, and Gnash stated very well why. Including that we're getting a lot less now than we did in vanilla, for the same price. Also, back then we got everything included in the game by paying the monthly fee, that is not the case now.

What do you mean? Do you mean the vanity pets/mounts you can buy?

Yep.

Well to be fair are you completist who litterally has everything else possible? Even if it was in game, would you automatically go get it?

I base it on principles purely, really. WoW went from depending on a monthly subscription fee to subscription + mini transactions, while delivering less content rather than more.

Well it's entirely optional, The actual gameplay is un-hindered by this a that's all I'm worried about

Perturbo wrote:Well it's entirely optional, The actual gameplay is un-hindered by this a that's all I'm worried about

For now, yes. But it's a step in the direction of having to buy things that effect gameplay later on. And with Blizzard's track record of introducing things they previously said they'd never do, it's my biggest fear with playing Cataclysm.

More on topic, for the paying 50g to get to be part of some tavern RP or so, it wouldn't really fill a purpose. You've no guarantees the other people paying 50g to get in are interesting people to RP with. It also won't filter out any OOCers, griefers or bad RPers who'll just run in anyway, so you've pretty much got the same thing as outside, only you just threw away 50 gold.

Now the payment is more in the idea of (or so I think) "paying" the people running the bar. So they dont have to stop doing this:

1. Keep the tavern open and organized
2. Get the alcohol they wish to sell their customers...

Why? Well.. If you spend most of your time running a bar, despite people paying some for the actual drinking, do you ever get much free time to do something else? Not so much no.. Is it fun talking in a bar, drinking, getting to know other people, spy on other people, etc? Yes.. Is it fun saying: "What do you want miss/sir, it will be five silver sir, please dont carry weapons inside sir.." for 4-5 hours of your free to play gametime? Nope:P

Personally I'm against all suggested options, the two latter because wow is expensive enough as it is and I do feel that the roleplaying service by blizzard is something that should be included, not charged extra for (however, I'm perfectly aware that the DM team is understaffed and thus accept that catering to roleplayers is low priority).

I am vehemently opposed paying other players for roleplaying. I can accept covering expenses for a bottle of alcohol or something ingame if I'm buying it off them. But paying to enter and participate? No.
Primarily because I don't think roleplaying should be given a value and a price. To me it is priceless and should remain such. There should be no pressure involved to cater to someone because they paid you.

Is it fun talking in a bar, drinking, getting to know other people, spy on other people, etc? Yes.. Is it fun saying: "What do you want miss/sir, it will be five silver sir, please dont carry weapons inside sir.." for 4-5 hours of your free to play gametime? Nope:P

If you do not find it fun, then do not do it. If you start to do RP event to win money, even in game money, it's really done for the bad reason. If you arse yourself to do a "boring rp" with the intention of offering a nice event, and to be congratulated, thanked by the community, then it's totaly different. Involving money will ruin the relation between people.

hmm Lots o nice disscussions here
I gota say I would lobe for there to be a "housing district" where I could have a house that I could decorats so ta speek

Elloa wrote:

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Is it fun saying: "What do you want miss/sir, it will be five silver sir, please dont carry weapons inside sir.." for 4-5 hours of your free to play gametime? Nope:P

If you do not find it fun, then do not do it. If you start to do RP event to win money, even in game money, it's really done for the bad reason.

I agree with this. I like encouraging good RP but if you don't -enjoy- it then the real solution to the problem is making it fun or finding people that do enjoy it. No amount of gold can really compensate for bad RP and it will burn you up eventually if you keep playing "boring RP" for the sake of petty gold.

Oh lord hahahha! I laughed so hard when I read the title:
"How much would you pay for role-play?" It made it sound like some sort of escort service (*cough*) :').

But anyways ...

1) A small guild is running a tavern every evening, 7 days a week. They provide good RPed out service and just make a tavern-experience as good as possible. But, to enter you have to pay an actual fee of, say, 50 gold (lower for those not lvl 80). Would you visit such a place?

2) Would you pay (gold or IRL money) to your Guild Leader/Officers if the guild they were running was qualitatively better than other guilds; professionally run, with events which provide great entertainment.

3) Would you pay (gold or IRL money) to a person/group of people who make huge and epically awesome large community events at regular basics.

That is a bit disgraceful in my opinion, to say the least ... I'd feel very ashamed personally if I saw people doing that. It excludes new people who come to the realm and it's just a bit off putting tbh, a huge turn off.

Although, I have paid for faction changes / realm transfers (I don't know if that counts though or not?) but only because I am too lazy to level another character again :p.

4) Would youy pay IRL money to BLIZZARD if they had a special, more expensive, RPer's subscription that gives you access to heavily-moderated RP servers with additional features, GM involvement for events, and no OOCers?

If the only people who role-played were on those realms, then yes ... but I like the way the realms are now, there is no need for additional features. I like feeling that we, the players, are doing everything by ourselves and are managing very well too without outside help!

5) Would you pay IRL money to BLIZZARD if they provided instanced player housing/player 'towns'/other RP features as a Paid Service?

No, because I think instanced role-play is a bit annoying ... what if I want to role-play with random people who come across my "house"? No, I like it as it is now tbh.

As for point 1. If I did indeed run a tavern of some sort. I think I would actually go with the buissness model of "You pay when you enter, once inside everything's free" Making it somewhat an "All you could eat/drink".

Why I would do it like that?
I'm lazy, and it would save me getting everyone to pay after every ordered drink. It would also let me get the money for the drinks, food e tc at the tavern instead of having to grind gold to keep it open.
Looking at things like that I see 1 entirly reasonable.
Even if it was only for say, one night a week.

Marogg/Helanie wrote:As for point 1. If I did indeed run a tavern of some sort. I think I would actually go with the buissness model of "You pay when you enter, once inside everything's free" Making it somewhat an "All you could eat/drink".

Why I would do it like that?
I'm lazy, and it would save me getting everyone to pay after every ordered drink. It would also let me get the money for the drinks, food e tc at the tavern instead of having to grind gold to keep it open.
Looking at things like that I see 1 entirly reasonable.
Even if it was only for say, one night a week.

Yeah but that's something else. Of course you are not supposed to "offer" the drinks and food people will eat. You can handel this in two way : people pay for each drink/food or they pay an entrance fee. But here, in the example, the entrance fee was not to compensate the prize of the drink/food, but to reward the OOC service of the organiser. And that I disagree. Once you start to play for money, we lose the spirit of the game. It became a job. It became greedy and it will become an industry.

1. A paid ingame service with an RP reason? Like the fee for a nightclub? Then why not I guess (though an actual figure would likely have to be less than 50g, and you could charge for drinks etc instead?).

2 & 3. No. There's some threads somewhere on these here forums with people having large and heated arguments about the <Goons>. And in those threads there are numerous people saying they don't like how <Goons> "seemingly" make charges for their "in game services". Whether or not they do charge, or anyone does, isn't the IRL aspect against Blizzards terms? I'm not sure (But isn't it also against the law in some countries Denmark maybe for one? Again, this is possibly/probably not true).

4. Would I "want" to pay Blizz more for something we should either get for free, or for the money we already play for the service to play on their RP servers? No. Do I think Blizz "could" charge for this? Probably. But it'd be more likely on a free to play MMO where certain services or fees were bought (like LOTRO etc is now). I think Blizz would have definitely looked at such things as this. They're a business. And that "paltry" £8.99 a month isn't enough for them, when they full well know they can charge for nothing and get at least a few million from some people.

5. Pay for exclusivity? In a world rich with places I can make into a home, however poorly? No. But again, as above, if it was free to play, with some bought services. Maybe.

Elloa wrote:It became greedy and it will become an industry.

There'll be sweatshops in Pandaria cranking out lead-based RP for export, probably using underage RP'ers, too!

As for blizzard-moderated premium RP servers, I doubt that would work for two reasons; Casual RP'ers staying away because opportunities for the other aspects of the game would be too limited, and because Blizzard would have to enforce only the vaguest definition of what is proper RP in order to accommodate all the viewpoints among WoW RPers (They wouldn't in a million years create such a service only to cater to an even more limited sub-section of dedicated RP'ers).