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Post by Thondalar Stormleaf Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:30 pm

I think snowflake chars can be good under certain circumstances. If its the type where its "HEY LOOK AT ME, I AM SPECIAL, NOTICE ME EVERYONE!" then I wanna go kill them.

But if its a unique character with a secret that is -well- done, then its something different. I often hate on dragon RPers, because I've never ever seen it done well. Then again, I might have met dragons in RP, just never known about it. In that case, I applaud it. I've only seen -very- few demon chars done well, and many done horribly bad. Which does taint my view of them.

Suppose my opinion is that its okay to be a snowflake, if one can pull it off in a believable way without being OP.
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Post by Adry Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:25 pm

Thaldir Shadowstar wrote:I might have met dragons in RP, just never known about it. In that case, I applaud it.

I've been sorely tempted to, at some point, play a Dragon. Or maybe just say one of my characters was a Dragon all along and mindfuck everyone.
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Post by Heirio Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:36 pm

Arabella Greene wrote:I actively avoid alliance players that rp as Blood Elves ic. It makes no sense. And as I stated before, I avoid snowflakes.

Does a half orc or half elf count as snowflaking?
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Post by Adry Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:51 pm

Dyver wrote:Does a half orc or half elf count as snowflaking?

The whole culture against "snowflakes" and "mary sues" is really stupid imo. The only important thing in playing unique characters is the reason for their uniqueness, both ICly and OOCly. OOCly, ask yourself: Why are you playing a half-orc? If the answer is along the lines of "Because they're different lol" then go play a Human until you've learned your lesson. If you have more rhetoric in your reasoning and it's backed up by a compliance with the lore, then knock yourself out.

The issue with such characters is that the bulk of the players seem to play them simply for the uniqueness, though this could be said for any race really (I'm looking at you, female Draenei).
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Post by Thondalar Stormleaf Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:58 pm

Snowflaking is a matter of opinion more then anything. Two years ago I thought playing a high elf was being a snowflake. Now, with more lore knowledge, I think otherwise.

So in other words. Everything what Adry just said.
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Post by Heirio Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:09 pm

I played a half orc because I thought I'd get really good RP with it.
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Post by Raenmar Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:15 pm

I think people get far too worked up over how other people choose to RP. Like shit, if I wanted to play a normal guy I'd go outside. People RP to be unique, different, powerful, whatever. I don't really see why that's a problem, as long as what they're RPing actually fits in the universe that they're RPing in.
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Post by Izzifix Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:32 pm

I dislike emotefights so much that I make my characters crappy at the whole figthing-thing, just so they'll have to use other solutions in those situations IC.

That's what works for me. In the current rp scene though, characters that don't fight on frontlines loose out on a lot of events, plotlines and guild opportunities.

This annoys the hell outta me in so many ways that I RP ~97% less than usual these days.

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Post by Raenmar Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:39 pm

Emote fights are alright until neither player wants to admit their character is weaker. It's like the unstoppable force/immovable object thing. They just get locked in combat for the rest of time.
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Post by Arabella Greene Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:08 am

Raenmar wrote:I think people get far too worked up over how other people choose to RP. Like shit, if I wanted to play a normal guy I'd go outside. People RP to be unique, different, powerful, whatever. I don't really see why that's a problem, as long as what they're RPing actually fits in the universe that they're RPing in.
The trouble is, they don't. That's what makes them so annoying. And sometimes disturbing of my rp.
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Post by Adry Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:21 am

Sometimes I multibox and RP with myself
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Post by Arabella Greene Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:45 am

Adry wrote:Sometimes I multibox and RP with myself
I've seen. XD
And if I had a PC capable enough to do so...I'd do it too :')
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Post by Izzifix Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:51 am

Arabella Greene wrote:
Adry wrote:Sometimes I multibox and RP with myself
I've seen. XD
And if I had a PC capable enough to do so...I'd do it too :')

I'd watch.

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Post by Morgaan Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:24 am

Adry wrote:Sometimes I multibox and RP with myself

I have no idea who you are, but right this! If I had another account I'd be doing that often. Because I made some of my characters connected through story lines, I even end sometimes writing what happened between them, but well that became a problem as I started to add more and more characters, in the end they all had a sort of connections to each other...

Oh and on the emote fight thing. Well when ever a group of people and myself go after someone, and attack him, I am always worried that we are hurting the player because we are able to get his character down so quick and that it might annoy the person behind it, so in those situations I always get Morgan (Or well, others. ) injured badly, and am unable to rp her properly for a few weeks.

But during 1v1 fights I mostly try to draw or just lose, since I can't handle drama that might come afterwards, the only fights I enjoyed were the ones within the Chapter and trusted circles of people.

But then... sometimes I hate folk that are able to beat of waves of attacks with just a move of their pinky or just loldodge everything and do impossible moves.

And ah right, hmm... other than that, don't know really. Might add more perhaps, eh perhaps now /shrug.
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Post by Lexgrad Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:24 am

Adry wrote:
Dyver wrote:Does a half orc or half elf count as snowflaking?

The whole culture against "snowflakes" and "mary sues" is really stupid imo. The only important thing in playing unique characters is the reason for their uniqueness, both ICly and OOCly. OOCly, ask yourself: Why are you playing a half-orc? If the answer is along the lines of "Because they're different lol" then go play a Human until you've learned your lesson. If you have more rhetoric in your reasoning and it's backed up by a compliance with the lore, then knock yourself out.

The issue with such characters is that the bulk of the players seem to play them simply for the uniqueness, though this could be said for any race really (I'm looking at you, female Draenei).

Yep that is all something I agree with.

Everyone should be a snowflake anyway, ie a unique char that when placed in an enviroment with other unique chars makes a snow scape of RP. I find people who make really bland chars more annoying than some snow flake; it is like some RPers are either afraid of being centured or else are just not very imaginative so make NPCs rather than an RP char.

Also! A Mary Sue isnt a snow flake anyway, it refers to a char who is always forcing themselves into the scene to the detriment of others.
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Post by Eldiros Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:40 am

I'm one of those people who's made unneccessarily long backstories that take up the space and thickness of a new Harry Potter series.

When it comes to Emote fights:

By my natural instinct of douchebagery, I seem to have a hard time having my character (my main) lose a fight. This is all the more so when I RP with my closer friends. When encountering less familiar individuals, I tend to push myself closer to what is an acceptable degree of mortality.

My alts tend to suffer as my main should have suffered, because I am a spineless Little Sh*t that loves his main and hates all his alts.

This is probably how I would judge myself some months ago, when I actually spent some time with Emote fights, which I haven't done in Centuries. I tend prefer immersive dialogues and real character development over fights.

I tend to despise Rolling fights when not in a DM.

I wish to plead Incompetense, your Honor!

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Post by Ixirar Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:40 am

Far as I've experienced, "snow flake" refers to characters that are unique simply for the sake of being unique for no other reason than "they're unique", who has little to no reasoning or justification for why the character is as it is. A well thought out character that sets itself apart from the norm while still fitting into the universe it is meant to function in would never be called a snow flake. See: Med'an is one, Khadgar isn't, even though both of the two are really OTT mages and share some characteristics when you look at Khadgar in WOD.
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Post by Thelos Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:03 am

RP Confessions? Hm. This thread sounds like something that could very easily generate drama. A little like confessing to 'guilty pleasures'; what one person genuinely likes, another might shun. I wonder if that was the author's intention here?

But I digress. I suppose the biggest confession that first comes to mind is that, when I was playing my Pandaren monk Paozi as a Shado-pan in the early days of Mist, I got to become a bit of a control freak, to the point where I was talking smack behind people's back for using the same armor as I did on Paozi without their characters being Shado-pan, even though said armor doesn't necessarily have to be a Shado-pan uniform: in fact, it wasn't, but I insisted that it was. I also chewed out people openly and secretly for using the Shado-pan Helmet for no good reason. Even though lorewise the Shado-pan actually give it to adventurers who prove worthy, I did not accept this reason and childishly refused to play with these characters.

And that's not even going into the amount of complaining I did about "people not playing it right". Yikes.

It was an uncharacteristically elitist thing for me to do and I still regret doing it. My head was way too big; what was I thinking?
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Post by nope Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:15 am

Is why I like [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Helped me calm down a bit on that point and then things were a bit less stressful.
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Post by Vaell Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:50 pm

[quote="Raenmar"]
Dyver wrote:
Like, all these times you've been surrounded by enemies, almost killed, this time you'll probably die, but........ NO! Because it turns out, mages can actually teleport you and all your friends to safety whenever they want, because it's fantasy! So next time you get in a fight, who cares? You won't die, you'll just teleport away. Or you're stuck somewhere, low on supplies, reinforcements can't get to you? No probs guys, here's a portal. Let's go home.
Mass teleport is extremely common in Warcraft lore.
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Post by Arabella Greene Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:37 pm

Thelos wrote:RP Confessions? Hm. This thread sounds like something that could very easily generate drama. A little like confessing to 'guilty pleasures'; what one person genuinely likes, another might shun. I wonder if that was the author's intention here?
13 pages in and 195 replies later, everything is still very pleasant thank you very much.
My intention was a place for us all to confess guilty pleasure, yes and for people to discuss it. I want players on this server to find common ground and realise that we aren't all hugely different and so should debate more and argue less. So far, this has all gone swimmingly.

Also this was my definition of what I define to be a snowflake also:
Ixirar/Kavalis wrote:Far as I've experienced, "snow flake" refers to characters that are unique simply for the sake of being unique for no other reason than "they're unique", who has little to no reasoning or justification for why the character is as it is. A well thought out character that sets itself apart from the norm while still fitting into the universe it is meant to function in would never be called a snow flake. See: Med'an is one, Khadgar isn't, even though both of the two are really OTT mages and share some characteristics when you look at Khadgar in WOD.
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Post by Charlie Blazesong Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:41 pm

I don't think you'd truly admit to a guilty pleasure.
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Post by Arabella Greene Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:48 pm

I've been confessing right, left and centre. judge meh!
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Post by Lexgrad Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:51 pm

Arabella Greene wrote:I've been confessing right, left and centre. judge meh!

You should be shunned for the vile evils you are guilty of. shame on you. /cast judgement.
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Post by Robin Drake Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:07 pm

Regarding emote fights. I have a very hard time making my character dodge any attack as to not piss off the person on the other end of the fight. Usually every attack the person makes upon my character will hit successfully I'll just change it ever so slightly. For example a punch aimed for the face, hitting my characters arm but still causing bruising and swelling. I just feel like if I dodge or block a single attack it will be seen as being OP. Right now this doesn't happen since my character cannot fight for shit. Anyone who basks in the glory of beating up someone with no chance of losing. Come looking for me IC.
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