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Post by Grufftoof Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:58 pm

AFAIK he cannot, being banned (temporarily?) for the "Gilneas phasing" thread (correct me if I'm wrong). And he'd be warned/thread deleted/banned for a naming/shaming thread anyway, as that's something always cracked down on.

I do report stupid names (yes Goons have many, Porkflute, ho ho, it's slang for penis, hehe, funny... etc). And I encourage others to do so. People could even speak to the person in whisper and broach the rules and naming. The person may not even be aware. They may, on the other hand, be a tool. In which case report anyway.

And I don't think it's "bad" to make people aware of potential disruptors or ne'er-do-wells intent on shafting people's RP (or any other aspect of the game). However doing so publicly often gives these pricks the oxygen and attention they so rabidly desire. Something that continues to be done, since time immemorial, on the official forums.

But I don't like a naming and shaming, finger pointing thread. Not my cup of tea. And, as some have said, just looks like the side of RP elitism you are fighting against yourself in other posts and threads.

I'd also hazard a guess that names would appear that some people know personally, possibly as RPers, or who believe their names (rightly or wrongly) are "ok". And may have even been given the "ok" by a GM.
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Post by erwtenpeller Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:00 pm

I'm not saying reporting names is a bad thing, mind you. I always immediately report names or spam. I usually send them a whisper, too, saying I reported the name because it is against the realm polucies. Sometimes I get a "I didn't know" response, sometimes a big "fuck yooouuu".

The only day to deal with harassment that works is to completely ignore them, and file reports where they can't see it. A thread like this encourages trolls. They want to see a reaction, the more dramatic the better.

"Naming and shaming" to them is nothing more then a badge of honor. A confirmation that their efforts to troll people have worked. That they are provoking an (emotional) reaction.


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Post by Amaryl Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:00 pm

Vangrel, There's a difference between reporting people who break the TOS, and making a public list - denouncing the baddies! For all to see and shame.

By all means; Report offensive and non-rp names, but don't incite a pogrom.

The realm-forum stops Naming and Shaming for a reason. And thus attempting to set it up here is just ridiculously stupid. (and ironic, considering you're the biggest voice that says; DefiasRP is helping/creating the divide between RP and other communities of this realm)

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Post by Grufftoof Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:01 pm

Vangrel Lansire wrote:
Mudija re-affirmed in-game that if multiple people report the same name it will get changed.

This is true. I've seen (and reported) ex-guildies and " acquaintances" before. Either when they're too stupid to listen to sense and make a daft name, or want a name change after a change of heart/realisation.
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:12 pm

Seeing as it's the same thing being disagreed with:

A list and/or names being posted here would only make them easier to report for as many people as possible.

Why? Because it takes more than 1 report to make a difference.

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Post by Amaryl Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:16 pm

Then do so on the realmforums, your reach is even bigger there.

Besides, it will show blizzard all who dare breach their code of conduct!

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Post by Vaell Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:29 pm

erwtenpeller wrote:
Vangrel Lansire wrote:This isn't the RP police. There is a set of guidelines given to an RP realm, this is a method of enforcing them.
Isn't that exactly what "the police" does? Enforcing rules and stuff?
It's more of an RP Neighbourhood Watch.
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Post by erwtenpeller Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:30 pm

Vaell wrote:
erwtenpeller wrote:
Vangrel Lansire wrote:This isn't the RP police. There is a set of guidelines given to an RP realm, this is a method of enforcing them.
Isn't that exactly what "the police" does? Enforcing rules and stuff?
It's more of an RP Neighbourhood Watch.
Heh. Yeah!
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Post by Cid Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:49 pm

And my suggestion is totally ignored since people are too busy waving their cocks about, as usual...

More often than not, the players have tried to come up with names on their characters only to find out it has already been taken. What do they do, if not write down the first thing that comes to mind and press "Create"? Personally I would suggest linking this site into some advice-thingie of yours (I can't since I'm still banned):
http://www.20000-names.com/
Contains LOADS of good names, names with a deeper meaning behind them, names that are fun and whatnot (not to mention how many names that actually fit into the different cultures of WoW).
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Post by Raenmar Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:18 pm

What Cid said. Instead of posting a list of their names and having them mass-reported, whisper them and suggest that site for them to find a new name, then offer to report them so they get a free namechange.

I still don't understand what the fuck you hope to achieve by this. As I already said, it'd just split up the RPers from the non-RPers even more.
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Post by Grufftoof Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:33 pm

Just a quick one, who the bloody hell is "waving their cocks about". No one. People (on both sides of the discussion) are discussing. Sensibly.
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Post by Lexgrad Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:33 pm

Gogol wrote:The nazis did this with the Jews. Horrible it was, butthe method was effective? No one has suggested locking people out of the rp community, merely trying to organise a aid in the enforcement of official Blizzard RP-PVP server rules. Let it be known DB is no longer accepting Jamesbond and Tombombadil- they recive their (free of charge) enforced name change and then are more than welcome to continue their time onDB And if that does not suit them I am sure Lexgrad would welcom all Laracrofts, Gimli and Legolassss'es on AD.

(In coming cock swinging! Sorry Gruffy (Though you deserve grief for turning on Garrosh))

So not only are we oppressing on basis of names but now we will deport the unclean to AD! All who remain quiet are guilty.

(Also Gogol, let it rest man, you cant still be mad at the dwarf thing. Call me out or let it rest plox, you are fast becoming #1 on my list).
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Post by erwtenpeller Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:23 pm

Lexgrad wrote:you are fast becoming #1 on my list
For Fuck's sake Lex, behave.
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Post by Ixirar Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:25 pm

Oh shit, Gogol, you're becoming #1 on Lex' list this sounds so intimidating better go hide in your bunker.
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Post by Lexgrad Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:45 pm

You just got off the list Ixi, you want back on too?
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Post by Ixirar Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:00 pm

Oh no please don't I value my life too much.
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Post by Lexgrad Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:02 pm

Well good.... The list works.
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Post by Ixirar Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:09 pm

What the fuck is your list and why do you think anybody cares about it?
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Post by Cid Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:00 pm

Ixirar/Kavalis wrote:What the fuck is your list and why do you think anybody cares about it?

The (shamelessly copied) Wifelist... pale
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Post by Lexgrad Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:06 pm

Its like Santas list but I cant take pressies away.
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:20 pm

Wow.

Any kind moderator could remove all the stupid shit?

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Post by Sullee Swiftspeech Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:16 am

Vangrel Lansire wrote:Wow.

Any kind moderator could remove all the stupid shit?
The entire topic?..
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Post by Vaell Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:09 am

Ixirar/Kavalis wrote:What the fuck is your list and why do you think anybody cares about it?
He's British. You're not British. That means you put sir on the end of your sentences when talking to him.
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Post by erwtenpeller Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:38 am

Sullee Swiftspeech wrote:
Vangrel Lansire wrote:Wow.

Any kind moderator could remove all the stupid shit?
The entire topic?..
OOoooohhh snap!
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Post by Dréfurion Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:40 am

erwtenpeller wrote:
Sullee Swiftspeech wrote:
Vangrel Lansire wrote:Wow.

Any kind moderator could remove all the stupid shit?
The entire topic?..
OOoooohhh snap!

My thoughts exactly.

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