Stormwind Council reformation - New positions and information

Try asking them regiment folks Geldar! It's not like the aim is to go in there and boss them around but rather see what they are doing and possibly helping with arranging military events (such as drills for example) where they can participate along with DoL and whatnot. Tough it's obviously up to them if they want involvement or not after you ask, but that's a different story.

Yeah that's what I was hoping to get at, Braiden. I know Samian's PC is down atm, but he should have a new one by the time everything to do with the council is sorted. Could arrange something cosy no doubt.

Braiden wrote:Try asking them regiment folks Geldar! It's not like the aim is to go in there and boss them around but rather see what they are doing and possibly helping with arranging military events (such as drills for example) where they can participate along with DoL and whatnot. Tough it's obviously up to them if they want involvement or not after you ask, but that's a different story.

This. Other than that, i dunno make a great hunt? (Totaly came from CKII). There are plenty of good ideas out there, you just have to look around for a fun thing to RP out. Hey i'd be fine if every now would be like the day you punish Heretics (Kind of a popular topic atm). Even if they would be just alts or random prisoners. Public humiliation and such. The next best thing to Gladiator fights i guess in those times.

Some said some people will shrug off being lashed (or enjoy pain), so dress up a man like a woman, let him be humiliated in public in funny ways, be creative in the end. I mean no one would enjoy that.

Again just throwing random ideas.

" I mean no one would enjoy that."

*coughs* you would be surprised if you think humiliation is not enjoyable by some people

Aadaria-Ioanna wrote:" I mean no one would enjoy that."

*coughs* you would be surprised if you think humiliation is not enjoyable by some people

On an other subject... Personally I would love guilds to work closely with Ministers. If Samian wishes for that too then I am sure we can work something out. If other guilds wish to be more apart of things too that is cool, hell its cool if you dont. Ultimately we can be as much of your RP as you wish.

When I ran the Proudmoore I longed for a body to act as a higher command, I never saw it as pinching on what I could do, infact the council wouldnt give me what I wanted which was a CO. So we are all decient guys and will do what we can to see that what you wish is carried out.

(We are still not a judge however )

One thing I've always wanted to do in the Regiment was to give the prisoners exercise, like in the American Prison movies - make 'em walk around the yard with shackles between their feet, or go on a trip to Elwynn to pick at some rocks. We never really had enough prisoners to do that though, and when we did try something like this, someone god emoted their way to freedom, so we never really done it again.
Siegmund is right though, just gotta have some creativity.

I always loved the idea of forced labor for prisoners because there were always complaints about not enough RP when people were in the prison (Long back when they still used the catacombs of the Cathedral as one) but people never really agreed with that idea then because as it was put, some god emoted their way to freedom and it was done on a rather large scale when it was attempted so it was scrapped afterwards.

I think it'd be nice to have that interaction between guards and Defense - it makes sense, doesn't it? Surely we can't be so chalk and cheese that it's impossible.

Indeed, it would. But I am just going by what Samian said before about wanting to work on his own and not with us, that is it really, as I/we have said before that we would not get in the way if its not wanted and the people do not want to RP with or alongside of us.

Try asking them regiment folks Geldar! It's not like the aim is to go in there and boss them around but rather see what they are doing and possibly helping with arranging military events (such as drills for example) where they can participate along with DoL and whatnot. Tough it's obviously up to them if they want involvement or not after you ask, but that's a different story.

Can do, Braiden. But as you have said, it is up to them. Just going by what was previously arranged and discussed, if that has changed, good. If not, also good! Would not want to get in the way of any RP if our presence is not wanted. You know, when the whole public executions of witches began and we objected that they were done too close to sensitive areas like the Cathedral and Fortesgue objected most vocally and then Samian did more and then more objections and boom.

In the past there have been prisoners digging for ore in the Buckholme mine. It is simple to keep them in one place there and the ore was used to make guard weapons, as far as I am aware that is still totally cool if you want to do it again.

TL;DR atleast not the whole thread, will be in touch IC for the application for Minister of Foreign Affairs for Adenah once I'm no longer occupied. As for now her citizenship papers are being handled *sagenod*

In which case I obviously would like to arrange rp/events with all non-human guilds where it's possibly a chance to fix rp at the same time for the minister of trade since negotiations often go hand in hand with agreements of mutual benefit

And stuff like that, will contribute more ideas once I read all this and thought about things more.

Hai.

I had a little look through this. Not sure if the topic has changed, but I wanted to toss in a little thing regarding the Council times.

I recall that when I was still in the Council on Julia, I hosted an open house time on uh.. I think Sundays? Maybe that's a possible idea to expand the time so that maybe visitors that can not attend Tuesday meetings can come and bring an issue; and then the attending Councilor or Assistant can bring it to the actual meeting coming Tuesday?

And another thought, maybe it would be possible to apply as a Councilor with an Assistant already - having the Assistant attend the meetings (with no vote unless its from the actual Councilor), and then the actual Councilor can handle matters the rest of the time?

Just a few thoughts really

So the big council ideas/overhaul comes down to giving ministers assistants? That couldn't have been the best thing you came up with surely? The regiment used to be very tight with aishling/aldric when he was minister not only did he help us out he was also very inspiring oocly, I miss the man. The guards want/have to serve the king, unlike the king however with the council you can actually interact (Geldar ain't an npc) however when the council is mainly busy with their own agendas and trying to wrap up their weekly meetings as fast as possible it gets hard to justify serving the establishment as a goodie lawkeeper. Last we have our server and all it's grudges which terribly limits accessibility to the council for controversial characters even though those are the characters that add most to role-play. For example imagine the ministry of trade opening up there are 2 applicants Amaryl the sexy well muscled warrior of light and Dandy Zinkle husslin specialist and greedy merchant of shady goods. Now who do you think will -GET- the seat? 99 out of a 100 times it will be Amaryl. Rping a democracy where everyone gets to vote is too hard I agree but any char should be able to join the council wether they are thugs, dranei(as long as they are Stormwind citizens) heck even women(joke) even if you consider the player behind a char a douchebag it'd still be very possible he'd contribute to a fuckton of SW role-play. Written from this shitty iPhone, my new pc(she's a beast) will hopefully arrive this week.

I don't think having assistants is part of the new. I could be wrong, but I think that has been part of the council for a while.

As for the other matter, it's hard I guess. Especially when its old characters. After so many years of playing I think in many cases OOC and IC gets mixed up. At the end of the day its a matter of OOC communication I think which sometimes can be hard as we're very different people OOC.

As a councillor you appoint your own assistants (since they have no formal power in the Council itself), which means you don't have to ask for permission either way should you be accepted. Hope that answers your question Saihna.

Yeah, it's what I assumed I like the idea of assistants really. Gives more people oppertunities and gives others less work. I could of really used one myself back in the days :<

So in the end we did not really get anything new except for a big thread

I think the new, as the name of the thread implies, are the new and merged positions and what they do.

The basic new things is:
* New, merged positions
* Inactive ministers will be replaced if there's new applicants (or in some cases removed even if there's not)

From myself at least it's also a call to be more open towards the community and trying to arrange events and whatnot. If that becomes reality I do not know but it's my personal aim with suggesting these changes from the start at least.

The following positions are now empty:

* Minister of Magic
* Minister of Trade
* Minister of Foreign Affairs
* Chairperson

We look forward to seeing new applicants and some more fresh blood coming in!

Just a quick question? If you want to apply, do you have to apply with a character or can you make a new character for that specific position?

You can make a new character for that specific position but since some activity and presence in the community is expected I think it would be preferable if the character had more going then just council stuff.

Minister of Magic

I don't know whether to apply for this or to apply for Ambassador of the Kirin Tor when they turn Alliance!

Vaell wrote:

Minister of Magic

I don't know whether to apply for this or to apply for Ambassador of the Kirin Tor when they turn Alliance!

Go for this. You have my vote, if that matters

The thing is, if you think you can help, apply

Vaell wrote:

Minister of Magic

I don't know whether to apply for this or to apply for Ambassador of the Kirin Tor when they turn Alliance!

While Vaell is the... least mature of the Kirin Tor community, I'm sure he'd be great as minister.

Godric Ravenholme for minister of magic!

"Fellow ministers, I found solution to all the magic-related problems in this city."
"All of them? With one solution? WHat will you call it?"
"The......Final Solution of the Mage-problem!"
"Wait a minute.....does it involve pyres?"
"...I am sure we can also use the canals if you object the pyres..."