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Post by Valerias Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:34 am

Muzjhath wrote:
Ave wrote:The girls having to be girly thing, is bullshit.
There's a difference between being "girly" and taking care in how you dress, and look.
Just sayin'

This, many times over!!

And rofl Timna xD
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Post by Lyniath Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:17 pm

Thelos wrote:I dont want to sound like a dick, but going trough doctors/therapist untill you get one who will diaognise you with exactly what you want to be diagnosed with sounds a little iffy.

Doctors can sometimes have their own agendas >.>
As I said, last time I went to my GP she pretty much dismissed the trans thing entirely and went to get me tested for asperghers.
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Post by Antistia Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:28 pm

Lyniath wrote:
Thelos wrote:I dont want to sound like a dick, but going trough doctors/therapist untill you get one who will diaognise you with exactly what you want to be diagnosed with sounds a little iffy.

Doctors can sometimes have their own agendas >.>
As I said, last time I went to my GP she pretty much dismissed the trans thing entirely and went to get me tested for asperghers.

Who's to say the doctor who gives you a diagnosis which you like is not without an agenda? The pendulum swings both ways, you know. It's a big thing I reckon, so even if the doc's not giving a diagnosis you like, it's still a diagnosis you shouldn't discard.
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Post by Grufftoof Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:32 pm

I think I know what Telos means, in that hunting down the answer you "want" or "expect" and ignoring anything else could be equally destructive. Even if the answer isn't what you started out seeking, or wanted to find.

It's a good thing to seek a second (or even third) opinion for a valid reason. I've done it before (though for my back, and my head, nothing quite like this). And yes, some doctors can seemingly have a different agenda. But a difference of opinion isn't necessarily a different agenda.

Their agenda after all might be to do what they can for you. With their training etc, rather than give you the answer you want.

Seeing therapists, and psychologists does I think come with "the territory" of someone seeking a change like this. If you're gender dysphoric, trans, whatever, then seeking someone trained to discuss this with is a MUST (and I'm pretty sure you don't get anywhere without it in the UK - certainly not in Europe, at least not from speaking with friends who went through the this on the Continent).

The changes you physically and mentally require to go through such a change put such a toll on you, and those around you, that having a proper support structure, mental health checks etc, is vital. For you and others!

You might have Asperger's. Get a second opinion about that too. If you want. You identify as Trans. Get a second opinion about your previous doctor's advice, of course. Don't stop asking questions, prepare for a long, hard haul. But remember if you ask a question, to listen to the answer. Even if you don't always like what is said.

And, anyway, I don't know you from Adam, but speaking to your parents, coming out: wow. I imagine that takes some balls (fnar fnar, snigger).

It's sad that it is such a barrier for so many people. And causes so much pain for so many. I hope they help you realise you (yes that sounds twee). And congratulations on having the strength to speak to them. Good luck.
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Post by Lyniath Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:39 pm

I know about the whole therapist thing, it's also just that at the moment the NHS is horribly underfunded and theres endless delays for everything. The official site said theres a 20 month waiting list to even see one >.>
But all of you, thanks again for the support <3
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Post by Grufftoof Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:45 pm

I'm about to potentially sound like a ranty old fucker (and I know I'm being deliberately OTT and maybe a bit poetic [who would have guessed from an RP forum...]).

But you're 17 years old. An age when summers last for years, and everything is polar, clear and extreme!

There is no subject you know the "whole" of. There is always someone, some source which can give further insight, more information. Something new to learn.

Everything can seem to take forever. Everything can seem to be against you.

But 20 months is nothing, however long it seems.

This is the rest of your life as you. Good things take time. Sometimes a lifetime.
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Post by Feydor Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:49 pm

grufftoof wrote:
But you're 17 years old. An age when summers last for years

I don't believe for a second you live in england Suspect
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Post by Lyniath Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:53 pm

I don't believe he knows I live in Scotland xD
Our summer lasts 2 days.
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Post by Grufftoof Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:56 pm

Pah. Where is your poetic spirit...

BASTARDS!

Trust me, south of Geordieland, and way south of Jocksville, the sun ALWAYS shines. At least over God's County....

*looks outside and basks in the windy grey day of Leeds*

Sad
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:00 pm

grufftoof wrote:Pah. Where is your poetic spirit...

BASTARDS!

Trust me, south of Geordieland, and way south of Jocksville, the sun ALWAYS shines. At least over God's County....

*looks outside and basks in the windy grey day of Leeds*

Sad

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Post by Rmuffn Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:14 pm

Summers that last for years..... Where are thou.... D:
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Post by Lorainne/Bridlington Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:23 pm

Search the snow, this summer he speaks of must be here somewhere!
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Post by Grufftoof Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:23 pm

Pah Kristeas. Pah. County. Not CountRy.

Googlemancy also teaches us that it is Country too, but as in Countryside I guess. As last time I check Yorkshire hasn't declared independence, and won't. Because we're not quite so stupid as the Scots.

And didn't anyone else's childhood summers last forever? And winters were always snowy? And you could fly and touch the sky and erm...

Yeah?

Maybe I just remember THE DAWN OF TIME. When everything was molten rock. And I'm just equating the heat of magma flow with the summery sun. Could be.
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Post by Emrys Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:25 pm

@Lyniath: the fact that doctors may think something else is the matter than what you feel is the matter, does not neccesarily have to do anything with their 'agenda'. If only they need to present other options because your own mind is set on this one diagnosis, I am not saying you are not right about your feelings, but dismissing everything they say because you do not like those options is not a smart thing to do either. Having yourself turned into a girl is a BIG step, a very big step, they probably wish to rule out you are not wrong about being transgender, they wish to prevent you from taking such a huge step and cutting into what is a healthy body (mayhaps not the body you wish to be in, but besides that) unless you are absolutely, 100% sure that it is what you want and that it is not causer by some other mental issue.

And besides that, you are a teenager, a reason to be extra careful about jumping to conclusions. Puberty can do odd things to ones mind, I repeat, I am not doubting the way you feel about yourself, but if you go through with this, at one point there will be no turning back, and you need to be positive it is not something you will regret by then.
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Post by Muzjhath Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:28 pm

Faralan wrote:Summers that last for years..... Where are thou.... D:
Every summer I can remember back when I was less than twelve years old.
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Post by Drustai Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:43 pm

Thelos wrote:I dont want to sound like a dick, but going trough doctors/therapist untill you get one who will diaognise you with exactly what you want to be diagnosed with sounds a little iffy.

No offense, Thelos, but it does make you sound like someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.

There are doctors out there that will let transsexuals die in the emergency room once they find out. Who will turn away or overcharge people with trans issues. Who will treat you like shit and do everything they can to roadblock you. Doctors are not all good people. It is essential you find ones that are tolerant of what you are. It can be seriously damaging to your personal health and emotional well-being if you pick the wrong therapist and/or doctor.

You don't need to find one who will 'tell you what you want to hear'. What you need is to find one who has a proven track record of dealing with trans issues. Not only will they know far better if you're trans or nor than the average therapist/doctor and thus can make an informed decision a lot better, but you won't have to worry about them wasting your time, money, or treating you like you're dirt beneath their feet.

The therapist/doctor will still diagnose you, and still determine what is best for you. There is none that will just give you a signed paper right off the bat and send you on your way. What they will do is have tolerance for you, and also have the know how to properly deal with your condition. That is why it is essential to do your research and find the right person.

It's the same with any kind of serious medical issue. You look into who is best for the job you need, you don't just go to any ol' doctor and expect them to be able to properly diagnose it. If you intend to have a surgery for X done, then you go to professionals who have done X, and you look for the ones with the best track record so you know they won't screw it up. It's the exact same thing with trans issues.


Also, the actual therapy is a bullshit and unnecessary piece of the process that does nothing but slow you down and waste your money. When you know in your heart what you are, that's all you need. That's the criteria they use in the therapy sessions, too--in fact, my therapist was sure I was trans after my first session, but I was forced to go to another 5 sessions (paying the money for it) because of the official process. It's bullshit.. You're not going there to find out what you are, because you already know. You're going there because it's needed for the next step.

For example, my moving to Sweden is going to require me to spend a another year going through therapy in their special clinics before I can get put back on hormones... even though I've already done my therapy in the US and have been on HRT here for the last two years! This is what I mean about the therapy being a pointless waste of time. It's a bunch of red tape.

That being said, if you find someone who's done it before, they can help guide you through the process (a lot of people don't research and won't know what the full process is. I was different in that I did research everything first... I knew more about what I was supposed to do than my own therapist). This is more what you want from your therapist than them telling you whether or not you're trans. You want someone who can tell whether or not you're trans, and then, if they determine you are, can guide you down the road to transitioning. Thus, you need to find someone who knows what they're dealing with.
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Post by Eowale Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:10 pm

Missus got permission to take days off when she comes here! I am a very happy man. First time she'll meet my family and first time she'll actually leave her country, so Im abit nervous.
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Post by Grufftoof Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:10 pm

The issue in part here is the talk of "GP" and it being muddied (by a lot of us) with "therapist", "psychologist" or "specialist".

A GP is a General Practioner. A Doctor you'd go see with tonsillitis, or an itchy rash on your... yeah... well. A Jack of All Trades, and arguably master of none. Especially as they have all of about 10 minutes to see you usually.

But it's not who I would go to for something "specific", no. But Lyn spoke of her GP.

They can be a good place to start to talk about a lot of stuff. They're the only point of getting "further help" for a lot of issues in the UK. From smoking to happy pills. They're usually free for us to see (free at source, we pay in NI), which is one of the strengths of the NHS. But also a weakness, much is misguided, mismanaged and not very clear.

And of course, there's red tape everywhere.
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Post by Lyniath Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:20 pm

Healthcare everywhere is all about red tape.
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Post by Drustai Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:21 pm

grufftoof wrote:The issue in part here is the talk of "GP" and it being muddied (by a lot of us) with "therapist", "psychologist" or "specialist".

A GP is a General Practioner. A Doctor you'd go see with tonsillitis, or an itchy rash on your... yeah... well. A Jack of All Trades, and arguably master of none. Especially as they have all of about 10 minutes to see you usually.

But it's not who I would go to for something "specific", no. But Lyn spoke of her GP.

They can be a good place to start to talk about a lot of stuff. They're the only point of getting "further help" for a lot of issues in the UK. From smoking to happy pills. They're usually free for us to see (free at source, we pay in NI), which is one of the strengths of the NHS. But also a weakness, much is misguided, mismanaged and not very clear.

And of course, there's red tape everywhere.

Lyn spoke of going to a therapist. She mentioned she has previously gone to her GP and gotten a negative response. Which is why I told her to research the therapist before she goes to one and not just picking any random one in the phone book.

For my part, my GP doesn't even know I'm trans yet. I haven't gone to see him at all since I found out (about 7 years now). I actually like my GP, but I have no idea what his stance on trans issues is... hence why I researched someone else. My doctor for trans issues is a pediatric, but handles trans stuff on the side after her normal working hours. She also happens to be a post-op transwoman as well.

That's what I mean about researching before you go. Finding a doctor who's actually trans herself means I have a huge resource for any questions I might have. Not to mention, tolerance is guaranteed.
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Post by Muzjhath Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:22 pm

What Gruff and Dru said.

The same as if you've got alcohol problems, or other addiction issues, you go to a therapist/other, or treatment center that is known for being good at treating those issues. You don't go to someone who generally handles parental issues.
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Post by Drustai Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:23 pm

Also, my happy:

Talent Calculator got updated, and revealed this beauty for mages:

Rune of Power
30 yd range
1.5 sec cast 10 sec cooldown
Places a Rune of Power on the ground, which lasts for 1 min. While standing in your rune of power, your mana regeneration is increased by 100% and your spell damage is increased by 15%. Only 2 Runes of Power can be placed at one time.

Replaces Evocation.

Considering I almost always RP drawing runes on the ground with Dru for RP spells, this will be an amazing RP tool. Especially when you read the fact that it lasts for one minute and has a 10 second CD... meaning it can be put up indefinitely. Two can be put up at once indefinitely, for that matter.

Warlocks have had a rune pattern for ages, it's about time mages get one!

I really hope they leave this one in and don't change it.

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Post by Lavian Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:29 pm

Drustai wrote:Also, my happy:

Talent Calculator got updated, and revealed this beauty for mages:

Rune of Power
30 yd range
1.5 sec cast 10 sec cooldown
Places a Rune of Power on the ground, which lasts for 1 min. While standing in your rune of power, your mana regeneration is increased by 100% and your spell damage is increased by 15%. Only 2 Runes of Power can be placed at one time.

Replaces Evocation.

Considering I almost always RP drawing runes on the ground with Dru for RP spells, this will be an amazing RP tool. Especially when you read the fact that it lasts for one minute and has a 10 second CD... meaning it can be put up indefinitely. Two can be put up at once indefinitely, for that matter.

Warlocks have had a rune pattern for ages, it's about time mages get one!

I really hope they leave this one in and don't change it.


Oh god, someone's happy over a balance change, we can't have this. Emailing blizz to ruin your parade right now.
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Post by Drustai Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:33 pm

I honestly don't care about 'balance' really. All I care is for stuff that can be used in RP. Razz

For example, DKs get Control Undead. Fuck yes. Probably useless in most cases (like the warlock Enslave Demon), but awesome. And Priests can get Evard's Black Tentacles Void Tendrils. Oh, and Rogues get a group stealth.

Fun shit for RP.


Oh, and night elves! Glaives! Hunters can get Glaive Toss, which hurls two glaives that basically function like AOE boomerangs (works like Flame Orb, can be used without a target, it looks like).



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Post by Rmuffn Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:33 pm

Eowale wrote:Missus got permission to take days off when she comes here! I am a very happy man. First time she'll meet my family and first time she'll actually leave her country, so Im abit nervous.


I hope not nervous over the out of country part. That's just fun for you, show her your Sweden, what it's like for you to live where you live, the beauty you might know of. Plus lot's of fun can be had.

The parents, will, that'll always be a nervous thing, I suppose. :p Or awkward..
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