[A] DefiasRP

After the Leaders of the alliance meeting, (http://www.defiasrp.com/t3192p60-leaders-of-the-alliance-must-see) many point where raised by the community. Namely that we could do more to help the commutiy be open and accepting; random RP is harder to find and many RPers who try, get a cold shoulder if they are not from the right guild. Interaction and communication between people of different guilds too was identified as a weakness too. The guild is trying to answer these and other points. If it is used correctly it could be a valuable resource for the server.

The idea is to collect any alts without guilds or in “perk” guilds, any chars that don’t want to RP in other guilds, low usage chars or maybe chars that are just independent, all into one guild. This will then be used as a vehicle to help bring more his as a friendly place for the players to talk, socialise and lvl together, maybe to do occasional RP events or help others with theirs. The new to role play chars we get can then learn and grow to love rp and can be shown about the server and have things explained to them.

It will be a guild of individuals, the only common point will be they ooc are alliance. Can be poor rich, spies, and cultists, it doesn’t matter. I hope others will see the DefiasRP logo and know from that and the guild rank that they are RPers and roughly their level. This does not stop any other guild recruiting I stress, but if you work with this guild then short term loss will become long term gain for all!

We need help however. We are a group of six or so already but need more old hands from this sight to make it work. Please consider moving your Alts. Every time you talk to a new rper it helps them!

(Please don’t use this thread for I don’t like it discussions. Also we have based our decision on the qualitative data provided by the alliance leaders meeting, I understand you might see things differently but plenty seemed to agree with the points provided in the meeting.)

F.A.Q.

Q: Is your guild an IC (In Character) guild with a concept or a plain OOC (Out Of Character) guild?

A: It's both. If members wish to OOC then that is fine but we would love to see casual RP between our menbers and those of other guilds. Even if ooc, all of the guilds members must be roleplayers, or people who wish to roleplay.

Q: Alright, so what can I roleplay within your guild?

A: What ever you want to roleplay! This means that all races and classes are allowed. This also means that you can roleplay a criminal or a guard. A peasant or a noble. A dark wizard or an holy paladin. A thief, spy, blacksmith, casual citizen, tavernkeep, horsebreeder. Let's just say everything, aslong it makes sense with the World of Warcraft lore and server lore. (Try wowwiki.com or wowpedia.com for blizzard lore and defiasrp.com for server lore and many more roleplay related/defias comunity related stuff.)

Q: I'm not sure, I've never roleplayed before.

A: First of all, don't get us wrong. Alot of roleplaying guilds offer the finest guidance to the new roleplayers. But so do we! You can ask questions to the veterans and what not. And don't let the tittle "veteran" scare you away. We just thought we should give experienced roleplayers a name, but they are just as you are, someone who likes to roleplay!

Q: Why would I pick you above other roleplaying guilds then?

A: It can have various reasons. Perhaps you want to have a taste of the server before you decide to join a certain "real" roleplaying guild? You can do that by joining us first. Our guild channel can be an excellent source for roleplaying. Not to mention that veterans can join this guild too, who can explain you one and another about roleplay, and this server and it's guilds/comunity. It's a rule that our guild chat must be mature, so do not worry to speak up!

Q: Well I want to level my character a little bit too. Why choose you above a Perk Guild?

A: We aim to make our guild into an as high level guild as possible, so that Roleplayers can roleplay in a "perk guild" without trolling or other immature behaviour. Right now we don't have a high level yet, but that will come as time passes! It's an investment of the whole server, so to speak. This also counts for roleplayers who want to pve and pvp with perks. And let's not forget, as mentioned before, that this guild can be a great source of roleplay for both beginners and veterans.

Q: Well in all honesty, this sounds pretty awesome for all kinds of roleplayers, new or old or what ever. So how do I join?

A: Just whisper anyone of the guild if there's an officer around or something. He will only have a brief conversation with you that probably won't even take more then a minute, just to see wether you are really interested in RP or not. Simple as that. =)

Q: I've been in the guild for a while now (or perhaps only a day) and I already know what guild I want to join. I'm sorry guys, I have to leave.

A: Don't be sorry. In fact, we're glad you found your guild already/finally! If you ever have a guildless character again, or need to level up a character, feel free to join us once more so that you can help others and find some more roleplay/enjoy the benefits!

Forgot to add, /w Jerric (who is me!) or Crojwin

And we have our first newRPer!

Can you add some bold on the text? For an easier/more appealing read.

How is that?

May I add that ideas/feed back is welcome!

I just noticed the guild is called O_O

Erm... get an name that can be read as IC at least.

Not the point of the guild, the point is that the guild ic has no story or aims. a collictive of citizens

"It will be a guild of individuals, the only common point will be they ooc are alliance. Can be poor rich, spies, and cultists, it doesn’t matter. I hope others will see the DefiasRP logo and know from that and the guild rank that they are RPers and roughly their level. This does not stop any other guild recruiting I stress, but if you work with this guild then short term loss will become long term gain for all!"

Naming policy on roleplaying realms forbid OOC names, and guilds are included to the policy.

Why not come up with a neutral name such as or or something like that?

The plan was first to call it citizens of the alliance or something, I like the name we have. I am checking with the gms as we talk to see what the score is.

Would like to see more love for the guild however, it exists to serve this server and serve RP. Please, this will improve rp so much if you all get behind it!

Khendran wrote:Naming policy on roleplaying realms forbid OOC names, and guilds are included to the policy.

Afaik guild names are not included, and I could not find anything proving me wrong when looking up on the rules either.

http://eu.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_GB&articleId=50141

Blizzard Naming Policy wrote:The Naming Policy is part of the 'World of Warcraft Terms of Use' that governs your play on World of Warcraft. Below are guidelines to help you determine whether or not the name you have chosen is appropriate for your character, guild, arena team or pet.

http://eu.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_GB&articleId=50071&pageNumber=1&searchQuery=Naming
I should've been more clear: guilds are considered a part of the naming policy, but it's not stated anywhere in the naming policy for the roleplaying realms that they are.

Partial or Complete Sentences (Does not apply to Guild Names)
Real World References
Contain "Leet" or "Dudespeak"
Immersion breaking titles

Note how the first one clarifies it doesn't apply to guild names. The rest apply. And is both immersion breaking and a real world reference (as it's the real world you rp in). So I'm not sure how people "can't find it anywhere".

Good concept, otherwise

It shouldnt really break immersion as the name is ooc whatever it says. I therefore clame if your immersion is harmed by the name then that is meta XD

When we named it we wanted a name that basiclly did as it said on the tin. If the gm doesnt like it then we will change.

On the plus side, three new RPers have joined the circle XD

You're rank names such as "Veteran RPer" are going to cause huge epeen wars and arguements, on who is and who isn't, and it's pretty vague on who counts as a "veteren rper" or not.

so far np. I /w every one once they join and explain. Mainly the rank is there to let others know they are new and to give them a break. I havent had any drama yet so we shall see. Will you place alts into the guild tho? And if not, why not?

Me? No, I only RP on 2 characters, Paragus in chapter, and a new character that is not in an rp guild per se. All my other characters are just in my mains guild, or another non rp guild with friends that I use for pve/pvp or am levelling to use in, and 2 alts levelling in chapter for the guild achievement for shiney capes.

Dreth wrote:It shouldnt really break immersion as the name is ooc whatever it says. I therefore clame if your immersion is harmed by the name then that is meta XD

Here's a funny thing: my char is not rp'ing. Therefore, my char is not immersed. I am rp'ing. Therefore, ooc names are breaking my immersion without being metagaming. Why have nametags on? Why, I don't know, might be because everyone has the same five faces and I need to be able to recognize people. Therefore, again, not metagaming. If I walk up next to you, calling you by name without knowing you, that'd be metagaming. If you stand next to me, with the name "Swharzenegger", your immersion breaking is not metagaming.

If the gm doesnt like it then we will change.

Way to go to stand by rp. I suppose we should also cheer for "John Mcclane" the tauren druid, as being an rp name, yes? The gm's never changed it, in multiple occasions, so it's the same example as you give. Think about it.

On the plus side, three new RPers have joined the circle XD

If that's the way they're gonna learn to think, I find that to be bad news - and I don't consider them "rp'ers". "Supposed rp'ers" perhaps. Forgive me if I'm not excited that group increases.

You don't seem to really want the input, though, so I won't bother reading further, not worth my time. Pity, I really liked that initiative.

Yikes, Nayan ... You have a point but there's no need to be so Nayan about it. :p!

Good luck with your project though, Dreth. I think it's a great idea, but I also think you should be careful with the rank names and even the guild name, like the others mentioned. Maybe you could get a guild-name change? If you ticket a GM, they should be able to do it for you. Good luck again ...

I felt like applauding the man for taking the initiative to take this concept in hands and work with it, rather than sit around and wait for the miracle to drop out of the sky. "Only shooting stars make a goal" but despite the brave talk I've seen little shooting

Not whitstanding, I find some of the "feedback" to be something worth thinking about.


I would like to give my support to this initiative. Perhaps we could hold some small IC events that serve the OOC purpose of introducing different aspects of roleplay.
For example we could hold:
- "Know your buddy": a game-like introduction to help people make a distinction between IC knowledge and OOC knowledge.
- "Basic weapons training": basic emote fighting
- "War tactics": IC fights at a large scale. Using duels or limiting your emotes to avoid spam.
- "Introduction to theater": where we teach expressing emotions or flair up some basic interactions.
- "Mime play": when there is a large meeting, how can participate in the meeting without creating a spam.
- "Know your surroundings": how to integrate the scenery and location in your roleplay
- "Know your enemy": how to purposefully integrate the abilities of your RP-partner (or opponent) in your roleplay style without changing your character. For example, your character might mumble "inaudibly" by Human standards but an Elf might distinguish the words (if the Elf understands the language)
- "Swinging with it": a theatrical approach to learning people how to improvise in an unexpected situation or role. It might encourage them to random RP or play a supportive role.

And perhaps some introductions to more specific themes. We could visit the elves for an introduction to their culture, which also serves as an intro of what RP you can expect there.
Or maybe visit holy dudes for Light RP. Or cults and criminals. Maybe beg one of the SI:7 for one of their stealth courses.
I can imagine these to be an important part of the agenda as they actually help people find a home for their character. And an RP guild open towards a visit from this beginner's guild is likely to help those new players on their way as well.

I can think of a few lessons myself that I'd love to teach or witness to pick up a broader view on the topic, at least

Stealth course eh? Can do I suppose

Oh noez the invisable text above your head isn't In-charecterly appropiate! !!!! ((

Jokes.
Nice bunch of folk. ^-^

@JP...love it. Do you think it would be best to recruit new rpers and keep it in the community or maybe take a risk and get it public. This will maybe bring more new rers but risk lolers.

@Emberstone I know XD. I did ty to change the name but gm says no. It is a small thing, it also makes us obvious to non RPers. If we can over look this one thing however and all pull together this guild will help RP on this server.