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Post by Quin Tue May 17, 2011 1:06 pm

Geneviève wrote:Just gave into my laptops demands that I update Internet Explorer. When they said updates, what they meant is upgrade to IE 9. After wondering why it was taking so darn long to apply a few updates, shadow sparring with some matrix agents in the mirrer, and restarting my PC I learn how foolish I was. I spend the next ten minutes trying to work out how to downgrade before deciding I can't be bothered. Spent another five minutes getting used to it and now I appreciate it. Bloody hell it's fast...
He still uses IE!
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Post by Valerias Tue May 17, 2011 1:23 pm

grufftoof wrote:

Swearing is fun and brings us all together. cheers

Certainly does. And that Germaine Greer episode is a classic.

Jayse, you'll probably like this then:

Spoiler:

And as for the list, I just love what it says about different cultures and the things they find insulting. Besides which, uh, the examples show rather remarkable creativity!
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Post by Mandui Tue May 17, 2011 1:32 pm

Bought myself a new pair of shoes..

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Post by Ave/Sariella Tue May 17, 2011 1:35 pm

O.o Not sure if want
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Post by Saevir Tue May 17, 2011 1:48 pm

Lies! Draenei don't use footwear (or hoofwear)!


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Post by Jayse Tue May 17, 2011 2:00 pm

Vale, I do like and infact shall start using it! <3

Mand, shoes be hot! :3
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Post by Shaelyssa Tue May 17, 2011 2:28 pm

Ave wrote:The mentioned danish insult.. I have never ever heard it here.

Ya I hadn't heard of the Arabic ones either. They didn't even make sense to me even, but the article thing was still hilarious :p
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Post by Seranita Tue May 17, 2011 3:14 pm

I bet them hoof shoes are uncomfatable Razz
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Post by Muzjhath Tue May 17, 2011 3:43 pm

I would say that would be entirely from how much support the sole and back can give. But doubt it's anything to use for someone unused to high heels.
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Post by Shaelyssa Tue May 17, 2011 3:47 pm



Makes me sick to my stomach ... I actually feel physically ill. You'd think that you'd eventually become used to the %@%"? but it still shocks me every time
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Post by Jayse Tue May 17, 2011 3:51 pm

I can't watch that shit, puts me close to buying a ticket to hotzone and probably getting myself killed.. The one thing I cannot -fucking- stand.. >_
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Post by Rasonal Dranger Tue May 17, 2011 4:09 pm

Translation of what I could understand that was said in hebrew:

First scene:
Palestinian: "Let her be!"
IDF: "Arrest her."
While pulling her up: "Get up!"
Again: "Let her go!"
Palestinian: "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!"
Someone (voice of a women): "Cos emek" --- translation-... a curse, leave it at there.
IDF to the women that is being arrested: "Come on, get inside.."

Second scene:
Firing smoke bombs or tear gus. I beleive the IDF is yelling some orders, plus telling the plaestinians to depart in hebrew.

Third scene:
Palestinian: "Don't hit her!" (First in hebrew then I think in English)
Pushing the Doctor, he indentifies in arabic, letting him treat the guy that.. something was done to him. Pushing the others aside, "Go away/Go up" so on.

When he pushes the guy with the camera:
IDF: "Go up I said!"
Palestinian:"I am a reporter"
so on so on
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Post by Ave/Sariella Tue May 17, 2011 4:17 pm

I wont comment, theres nothing in the video that proves whos on the good side and bad, the people there could have taunted the soldiers to act and so forth, dunno so.
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Post by Shaelyssa Tue May 17, 2011 4:22 pm

I heard a lot of "sharmoota" this and "sharmoota" that too ... I think when the paramedic was being pushed around he said something like "I'm helping her" basically and I think when the guy was in that ditch and he got back up again he was like "Why did you hit me?!!" or something. I'm not too sure though, Palestinian Arabic is a little bit hard to understand.

Regardless though, actions speak louder than words
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Post by Shaelyssa Tue May 17, 2011 4:27 pm

Ave wrote:I wont comment, theres nothing in the video that proves whos on the good side and bad, the people there could have taunted the soldiers to act and so forth, dunno so.

Iirc the Palestinians were protesting about the illegal Israeli settlements around Nabi Saleh and then they got shot at with rubber bullets and got tear gas shot at them. That is only one incident though, there have been a million others where Israeli soldiers fire rubber bullets, tear gas, and even kill protestors. They even open fire and shoot tear gas at reporters and journalists

You can form your own opinion on who's on the "good side" and who's on the "bad side" but that's not important. What's important is that there are people who are suffering and it should be stopped
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Tue May 17, 2011 4:30 pm

*eyes* very sharp recording.
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Post by Ave/Sariella Tue May 17, 2011 4:32 pm

They kept going forward and taunting, some actions makes shit worse aswell
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Post by Shaelyssa Tue May 17, 2011 4:35 pm

Going forward and taunting? They weren't taunting, they were trying to help them ... If your daughter / sister / mother was being dragged away by their hair, I am sure you would not stand there and smile and say, "Have a nice day, thank you!" to the Israeli soldiers.

And sorry, but if you think firing tear gas and shooting bullets is the best way to respond to "taunts" then I must say I disagree completely ...
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Post by Ave/Sariella Tue May 17, 2011 4:45 pm

Never said its the best way, im not agreeing to either side here, i dont agree with the bloody countries at all in general, either side here can still be at fault and either side could make things way worse, trying to help can be seen as a taunt against them, but dragging people away by the hair is way wrong, if it was done calmly, it probably wouldnt have been like that.
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Post by Shaelyssa Tue May 17, 2011 5:05 pm

I personally believe that there is a difference between civilian protesters acting one way and the Israeli army acting another... Hopefully you'll be able to distinguish between the two too.
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Post by Rasonal Dranger Tue May 17, 2011 5:38 pm

The simple fact, in my opinion is, that when you start of with defining a religion as a race and a nation, then screaming antisemisitism when someone else does it, and building a country upon this paradox.. it can't end well. And it didn't end well.

The Israeli soldiers are either:
I. Young people who well.. can't handle the situation, so they act as they do. Usaully they go to other units then this one though.
II. Those that were brainwashed that Arab are muslims muslims are arabs and they won't to kill us all and we are zionist and free and everyone else hates us and blah blah blah...

Surprisinly, more Arabic jews belong to the second group. I would've thought it would've been otherwise... but nah. Let it go, no one dares to challenge the idea behind the Zionism, that is unnaceptable at all. But it's still more a democracy then Syria or some other countries in the region, one may argue.
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Post by Shaelyssa Tue May 17, 2011 5:53 pm

I don't really care if Arab Jews support them or if Israel is more democratic than other Arab nations or whatever. My opinion about Israel is my own, but the tactics employed by the Israeli army are disgusting and illegal.
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Post by Jayse Tue May 17, 2011 5:55 pm

who gives a shit what nationality was what, point is a woman was getting beat.. so fuck that.
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Post by Geneviève Tue May 17, 2011 5:59 pm

Conscript soldiers. Says it all really. I'll confess I've seen Brits act like.

During their first 'baptism of fire' riot training. It seems so real people completely lose the plot. I can only hope that the way they handle it once the training's complete is the way they handle it on operations. :S
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Post by Shaelyssa Tue May 17, 2011 6:01 pm

What they're doing is what they learnt during training ...



And http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/16/former-israeli-soldiers-break-silence
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