Re: How to RP a Death Knight

by **Ledgic** Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:15 pm

Actually, Ephitos, the Cathedral is actually widely considered to be a poor RP hub, largely because of the sort of things that Ben mentioned. I only stumble across the place on my paladin. While I don't believe that DK's have no purpose being there at all, I also don't see why they'd be there all the time.

Drustai! As brilliant as ever I see. She speaks sense.

by **Ephitos / Amarachus** Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:25 pm

I always considered it to be "the centre" , And because our guild mainly has alts, we can't must 10 people for casual RP night!

by **Drustai** Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:26 pm

Why thank you, Ledgic. Smile

Regarding the Cathedral... just because a place is an RP hub, does not mean that all characters should utilize it. If there is no IC reason to be there (or even IC reasons to not be there), then you shouldn't be there, IMO. Instead, one should look for, or create, other hubs to use, which would make more sense from an in-character standpoint. If most of the guild are alts, I would focus on creating weekly guild events more than daily RP.

My Death Knight shies away from holy locations like the Cathedral (or the Naaru) not only because of physical discomfort, but a sense that an abomination such as herself is not worthy of being there. Sure, it means I don't have access to that hub, and thus it is harder to find RP, but I'd sooner maintain character and have less RP than have more RP but not maintain character.

I'm not saying that all Death Knights should outright avoid churches (as some might be very devout even though they cannot feel the Light anymore, depending on how repentant they are), but that would be for sermons or prayer. There isn't any reason for just hanging around there to yap.

by **Ephitos / Amarachus** Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:29 pm

I see your point, but I will not force guildies to just abandon the Cathedral, I know what your saying completely, perhaps I will try move us more towards Acherus.. Perhaps.. Smile

by **Drustai** Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:30 pm

Seeing Acherus used more for daily DK RP would indeed be nice. I always felt it was underused considering how essential it is to Death Knight characters.

by **Seranita** Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:38 pm

Drustai wrote:I have to agree that many Death Knights do it improperly. I don't feel this is an issue about just the class itself, as many people simply do not wish to acknowledge the hallmark traits of any class or race, or do not realize how necessary it is to conveying the theme of that class/race. Now, breaking away from the mold and playing something original is certainly possible, but it should always be a clear evolution from the original idea, rather than simply discarding it completely.

I think it's impossible to completely dictate the one and only way that DKs should RP. There are contradicting sources, and many things are not explained or not elaborated on enough to make an accurate picture. So I don't think there is any one "right" way to RP a Death Knight. However, the one thing that should always be remembered, is the theme of the Death Knight. The minor details and specifics aren't as important. But you must acknowledge that theme, or you wind up completely ignoring what it is about, and what it means to be a Death Knight. To me, that theme is a fallen hero, who has lost many of the joys of life and is seeking to prove themselves to be more than their dark, undead roots, despite receiving no gratitude nor respect for their efforts.

In addition, another thing people often forget, in my opinion... the character was someone before becoming a Death Knight. I find many people who RP Death Knights created a character solely for the class. In my opinion, when making the DK, one should think very carefully about who they were before the transformation, and how that change affected them. Who they were before will determine who they become after.

Finaly a decent answer to this entire thread Smile

I could not agree mor with this,.. tis why i started my deathnight as a hunter beffor In order to develop her persona once I was satisfide I had created an awsomly shy,and timid little hunter, I went threw the dk prosses re rolling her to get the proper dk twist on that origional personality,...It worked well

as for the cathedral,.. ay I hang around a lot there,.. there is a semi good reason for that,.. after becoming free some old frends from beffor she became a dk... (annother bonus of pree ic development befor killing her) found her wandering the streets of stormwind (a little blooded after being mugged I may say) the frendships have slowly reformed giving her a sence of some proper porpouse again witch she wishes to keep thus she is never found far from her frends (which happens to be neer the cathedral)

by **(Goggy) - Exilius** Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:24 pm

DK's in Stormwind in general, if not the very Cathedral square be blasphemy.

All the worse when mounted on disease filled, foul and horrific Skeletal Horsies of eeevil. Bearing sickness, killing and frightening the people. :C

And that goes not for DK's alone, but people in general! D:

by **Drustai** Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:10 am

(Goggy) - Exilius wrote:DK's in Stormwind in general, if not the very Cathedral square be blasphemy.

All the worse when mounted on disease filled, foul and horrific Skeletal Horsies of eeevil. Bearing sickness, killing and frightening the people. :C

And that goes not for DK's alone, but people in general! D:

Agreed. I always use a Talbuk while in-town. It should be common sense not to bring Ghouls, Warlock pets, Deathchargers, or Dreadsteads around most inhabited cities.

by **Ephitos / Amarachus** Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:28 am

Well, I use a Stormwind Steed. The ghoul and warlock pets are obvious. But the Acherus Dreadcharger is a mount. And I'v been ICly protected by people from others giving out to me. xD Oh well, I use the Steed as said earlier!

by Guest Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:56 am

I have no problem with them hanging around other parts of town but it is just weird seeing aload of Death Knights in the square, Especially at the top of the steps. Some DK's say they have to "Make their presance known" but they just have no business there. I have no problem with them RPing the other parts of the city. Even square I can deal with, but not actually on/in the cathedral.

by **Cathee Norris** Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:08 pm

On the subject of the Cathedral square being an RP hub - Yes. But it is a bad RP hub as mentioned, as it is the new "Goldshire". And that is the widely known fact. Also much because of what Ben mentioned. People just abuse the square for purposes that it should not be used for. Emotefighting, screaming, I've even seen sexual explicit things going on there. It just doesn't make any sense. And the thing that makes the least sense there is indeed the DKs, as the Lights presence would surely hurt them?

I tend to hang there myself, sadly. But mostly cause I'm usually bored and want to have something to laugh about. The Cathedral square usually gives just that. Its a laughable spot. Besides, surely trying not to be there and spread the RP would be more beneficial for everyone, rather then just going with the flow (even if it doesn't make any sense that your character is there). There are districts that have far better RP potential I believe, which is why I try to always direct my own RP to other districts.

I'm sure if the DKs actually tried to direct DK RP to Acherus, it would blossom into something more fitting for DKs, then the Goldshire-Cathedralsquare. It takes effort to attract RP to another spot then Stormwind, yes. I know. But it is oh so worth it.

by **Khendran** Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:26 pm

Julia wrote:And the thing that makes the least sense there is indeed the DKs, as the Lights presence would surely hurt them?

Yes, or if they happen to be a powerful undead, the Light would make them, at the very least, feel uncomfortable and force them to move away.

Julia wrote:I'm sure if the DKs actually tried to direct DK RP to Acherus, it would blossom into something more fitting for DKs, then the Goldshire-Cathedralsquare.

Agreed.

by **Ephitos / Amarachus** Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:47 pm

I try discourage venturing inside the Cathedral. Unless the hat over the eyes is on. That way we aren't DK's.. Smile

by **Quin** Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:03 pm

It's not the cathedral square that is the problem you daft pricks, its the people.

Which it has always been.

by **Ephitos / Amarachus** Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:04 pm

"Daft Pricks"?

by **Quin** Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:06 pm

Daft is an Old English-derived word for silly, stupid, or mad, depending on context.

Prick (manufacturing), style of marking tool

I dont mean to start a scene. It was just on my mind.

And stop replying to me the same second then ;D

by **Ephitos / Amarachus** Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:06 pm

You forgot to define Prick.
You.

by **teirzul** Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:34 pm

there are a few more rp hubs then the cath, depends what you look for.
you can all ways start one tho

by **Ephitos / Amarachus** Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:50 pm

Leaina wrote:there are a few more rp hubs then the cath, depends what you look for.
you can all ways start one tho

I know all this, But I enjoy Cath. If that's my fault then whatever I'm a shit RPer.
All the people kind of go to Cath. If you want to meet someone famous, Cath. Make new friends, Cath.
The only other RP hubs only sprout up due to events, I know people WILL disagree with what i'v just said, but I think that Alliance RP is based mostly around Cathedral...

by **Mistvale** Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:54 pm

The problem with Archerus as RP hub, is that only DK's are having access to it. So other classes who might be interested in meeting DK's for (evil) RP reasons, can't actually go in.
However we're trying to use Death's Breach and probably the Scarlet Enclave ruins for RP. The other problem with Archerus is, that there are of course lolboy DK's running around there who like to fuck up the RP.

I do understand those opinions on DK's and Cathedral square though.
And how it doesn't makes much sense to have them that close or into the Cathedral. Wich is also why I RP my DK to be ignorant and disgusted, when it comes to the Cathedral and even the Light in general.

I never thought about the mount/pet thing though. Got a point there, although I didn't knew that the Deathcharger carried diseases and corrupted any ground they walk on.
I just saw them as one of the dead steeds of the Forsaken, with some more cloth and armour Razz

by Guest Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:16 pm

Sharkhan wrote:The problem with Archerus as RP hub, is that only DK's are having access to it. So other classes who might be interested in meeting DK's for (evil) RP reasons, can't actually go in.

The necropolis just SE of the Ebon Blade camp in Zuldrak is completely empty of mobs and stuff. Perhaps a useful site for the 'Hood?

by **Ephitos / Amarachus** Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:15 pm

We use Death's Breach.
What IC reason would moving to Northrend have? With under 75's especially.

by **Ralegh** Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:43 pm

Ephitos wrote:We use Death's Breach.
What IC reason would moving to Northrend have? With under 75's especially.

With a warlock its easy to get anybody up there.

by **Ephitos / Amarachus** Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:31 pm

IC reason?

by **Ralegh** Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:33 pm

Well having a necropolis anybody else can get into aswell would be a nice place to have IC meetings and so on.
ICly you can just pretend you told the other death knighs to clear out for a bit since you were having guests over and claim its still archerus :F

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