Witchcraft - A discussion

I've recently created a Witch charecter on Alliance, Now as Witchcraft hasen't really be known to exsist in Warcraft. What I see it as, is a anicent human teaching that takes peices from both Troll Loa, Affliction curses, the use of shadow, illusions and even shamanistic traits. Similar to what we'll see with Worgen Harvest wizards and witches. Historically, I've imagined this up to a family thing that's passed down from parent to child, but as it has a somewhat shadowy nature it's feared and often met with aggression from human citizens who don't understand it. I also consider this craft to have links with each Human Kingdom possibly even some sort of Coven that spread across the land, where Gilnean Witch and Wiccan would meet with, Darkshire covens, Lordaeron and the likes. 
Because of this, One would imagine that a certain relationship has been built between people who follow the craft and because of the mistrust of anyone outside it's teachings. So because of that i shall post a brief explenation of Natelda's past and leave it open for anyone to go " Oh they would've met there, so we'd know each other. "

Natelda was raised on the Outskirts of Darkshire a farm, where her father and her younger brother would tend to the crops, She would sit with mother and learn the craft, traditions and curses to an extent. At some point her mother was found out to be a witch by the efforts of some Lordaeronian Witch hunters who were traveling the land. She was burn't at the stake and her death was celebrated throughout Darkshire; although she never did anything wrong. The recent worgen attacks and riseing of the dead was pinned on her. Natelda fled, ventured the eastern Kingdom being taken in with covens from up and down the land, celebrating with seasonal holidays. This is where I would imagine she might've met someone elses Witch.

She studied illusions as she traveled from books picked up from off the road and wandering wizards from Dalaran, She picked this up surprisenly quickly because of her roots in Witchcraft. Now at the age of 35 she has moved to Stormwind, for reasons which are publically unknown. She tends to haunt the regnant stores found the Mage Quarter and has been known to drift between the shadow users of the Underground, however she doesn't publically allign herself with such, But when you need the eye of a dead man, your far more likely to acquire it from a dodgey tradesmen then that guy who sells the portal stones.

*Grabs his pitchfork and torch*

We found a witch, may we burn her?!

Witches Are People Too.

Stand up for the rights of warlocks and witches everywhere!

Seems like a nice description, though I dont think it`ll be wise to go around saying or implying she might be a witch, in a Light driven society.. this wont be looked upon with a good eye..

As for what Mikasa said.. AT YOUR SIDE.

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Aislin wrote:Witches Are People Too.

Stand up for the rights of warlocks and witches everywhere!

Although I whole heartedly agree! Natelda is a witch of Shadow and earth, not of demons. Her craft is illusions and affliction. ^_^ So the two in my eyes are different things, considering she's not once used Fel magic. The assumption Ic is that all witches do.

Mikasa wrote:*Grabs his pitchfork and torch*

We found a witch, may we burn her?!

Do i smell a Monty Python reference?

The one thing I facedesk completely at is that no-one knows that a Warlock is considered to be, quite literally, a male witch. Therefore, there are witches in-game - just not what is considered the traditional version of a witch, so to speak.

Lukeian/Natelda wrote:

Aislin wrote:Witches Are People Too.

Stand up for the rights of warlocks and witches everywhere!

Although I whole heartedly agree! Natelda is a witch of Shadow and earth, not of demons. Her craft is illusions and affliction. ^_^ So the two in my eyes are different things, considering she's not once used Fel magic. The assumption Ic is that all witches do.

So.. A mage.

Anaei/Vezullia wrote:

Lukeian/Natelda wrote:

Aislin wrote:Witches Are People Too.

Stand up for the rights of warlocks and witches everywhere!

Although I whole heartedly agree! Natelda is a witch of Shadow and earth, not of demons. Her craft is illusions and affliction. ^_^ So the two in my eyes are different things, considering she's not once used Fel magic. The assumption Ic is that all witches do.

So.. A mage.

Mages deal with the use of Arcane; raw magic, Fire and Frost. illusions in that sense are arcane yes, But the illusions of a witch are more related to a shadow priest, it deals with invading someones mind and curses. Are a warlock thing it's a darker craft, then mage stuff.

Lukeian/Natelda wrote:

Anaei/Vezullia wrote:

Lukeian/Natelda wrote:

Aislin wrote:Witches Are People Too.

Stand up for the rights of warlocks and witches everywhere!

Although I whole heartedly agree! Natelda is a witch of Shadow and earth, not of demons. Her craft is illusions and affliction. ^_^ So the two in my eyes are different things, considering she's not once used Fel magic. The assumption Ic is that all witches do.

So.. A mage.

Mages deal with the use of Arcane; raw magic, Fire and Frost. illusions in that sense are arcane yes, But the illusions of a witch are more related to a shadow priest, it deals with invading someones mind and curses. Are a warlock thing it's a darker craft, then mage stuff.

So.. Half way between a mage and a warlock. A witch by definition in warcraft is another term for Warlock.

Tabetha (of Dustwallow fame) whilst a "mage" is I think kinda like a witch. Or that's her feel anyway. Stuck there in a shack in the woods, surrounded by swamp. Though it is classed as a "farm".

She has if I remember correctly "trained generations" of people who come to seek her out. One of her quests is "Hidden Secrets".

Ok, so she doesn't eat children, live in a chicken-leg house, own a flying cauldron or melt when you get her wet... but that's a small thing.

I know this doesn't help, but she is kinda "witchy" in a sense.

Warlocks are probably as said the closest to a witch. So a wicth is maybe just a female warlock. Unless played as a witch in the sense of someone much more in tune with the magic of nature, and the land and seasons. Like a "proper witch".

Definitions aside I loved reading. There is alot about a class open to interpretation within reason and this is no different. Carry on sir!

Just don't forget that gingerbread house in the middle of Elwynn Forest.. might even get rid of those creepy kids.. YES YOU KNOW WHICH ONES I MEAN! *cowers in fear*

I'll contact you, since I have a character into whitchcraft as well: a former Kurzen medicine man captured by the Trolls, driven insane by the jungle life and their fool magic, miraculously escaped and now roaming around Stormwind, healing who's in need and selling his strange elixirs. Too bad he's impossible to understand.

Etular wrote:The one thing I facedesk completely at is that no-one knows that a Warlock is considered to be, quite literally, a male witch. Therefore, there are witches in-game - just not what is considered the traditional version of a witch, so to speak.

I'm playing upon this fact for a very good reason. ^^ Witches are awesome to roleplay because a stigma is always held towards them in whatever fantasy universe. In WOW; To a normal citizen they won't understand the difference between a Male-witch and a warlock and will simply grab the pitchforks and torchs. 


Conflict breeds roleplay, I assure you.

Witches are always fun to have about, I always pictured them skulking about, being a hermit of sorts. Where'd a witch most likely be based anyways-- in terms of their potions and concoctions?

Sinclair/Unathi wrote:Witches are always fun to have about, I always pictured them skulking about, being a hermit of sorts. Where'd a witch most likely be based anyways-- in terms of their potions and concoctions?

In my opinion witches and witch-doctors are people who study magic but not, Fel magic or any Arcane. It's a gray area, which can involve curses, fate-weaving, card reading, apothecaries, that sort of unique area that has alot of mystery around it. Different areas around the world specialise in different things for example, Duskwood was big on curses, mental invasion and illusions; to a degree. Whilst Stranglethorn is about herbs, potions, spirits. 

Basically, Magic that's not used frequently, or isn't heard of often.

I've said it in similar discussions in the past; it's my view that people are misguided by the medieval feeling, and adapt the entire dark ages into WoW mistakenly.

Yes, in dark ages, witchcraft was prosecuted blahblahblah. But in WoW there is zero indication this should be a norm. Witchcraft, voodoo, curses are part of the universe, even with the Light fanaticism around. Comparing Light with Christianity can only go that far. It is not "the same thing with another name".

There are vast differences between the two universes. We have walking corpses, and mages hurl fireballs, people shapeshift into animals, people portal across the world into other locations and even time dimensions. In the dark ages the corpses weren't roaming the streets as frequently.

I used to love Natelda when she was the confusing woman with weird prophecies, strange potions and awkward advice.
I still laugh at how you emoted '/e makes a ":/" face.' when Blaight was inappropriate.

But now.... I don't know. I still think you're awesome, but you've grown too serious! More fun, less bothered!

(btw, Natelda should have a wart)

(btw again, make sure she weighs more than a duck!)

I enjoy charecters with layers, I like the fact she can be serious and comically confusing at other times. And although I do see your point Nayan, with the recent assaults from The Scourge and The Legion, The every human villager isn't going to welcome magic that revolves around curses and using regnants of dead animals, So easily.

More or less that ^

Noone is going to welcome dark magic and such that involves working with something different than the abovementioned Light worship, after all thats the 'human' religion after all. And deviation from it is heresy.

And on that note..

Spoiler:

Natelda is scary, she gives hugs without warning.

Zinkle Figgins wrote:Natelda is scary, she gives hugs without warning.

Followers of the craft need to stick together! ..Now pick up my pen..