End of a chapter, beginning of another?

Now that final wing of Icecrown Citadel is about to be released, it is only a matter of time till Arthas bites the dust and that gives me an idea: while the world in WoW remains still, it does not mean that we have to accept it as dead world where story evolves only when new patch is released.

This is how I see it: once some lucky guild score their [SERVER FIRST LICH KING KILL DUN DA DUN DA DAAA], that kill would be taken account in-character wise and mark a start of new era in our server. Defias Brotherhood would move to an period where war is finally over, it is time to celebrate our victory and mourn those who we lost. Old feuds and foes still remain, but our characters have bought themselves a well earned moment of peace, a chance to sit down and gather your breath before Cataclysm hits Azeroth.

I think that Lich King is unique character in WoW and definately deserves more than just people afking in Dalaran with their Kingslayer-titles. It is a great chance for all of us to make something out of it: emotional impact on our characters? Celebration and IC parties? Drinking till you go numb? What would George Lucas do? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfHX3mAbyrs

Your thoughts?

Given the time, my thoughts might not make alot of sense right now. On first glance, I'd say it would be very good to get to say "The Lich king is dead" and have some kind of party around it, but I find myself wondering about some of the mechanics. The scourge are still roaming around in the North, but I suppose stragglers are only to be expected. What I was thinking about, however, was the Death Knights. If Arthas is truly dead, then they will all have to have been released from his grasp before his death. Ergo; No more "recent" death knights.

I do agree that some "rest" will only make Cataclysm bada-boom alot louder. Very "YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE SAFE, EH?! WE SAVED A BIG HONKIN' DRAGON FOR YAH!"

I think at least an -attempt- at an unified celebration would be very fitting at a certain point. Like with the Wrathgate events, the Horde agreed on a general date for these events to have taken place, so everyone will have had gotten a chance to try and reach that point in-game themselves to see how the events unfold. Perhaps a similar thing can be done here.

One can only imagine how such celebrations might make for mixed feelings amongst the races. Seems like an amusing concept to me.

This is a bad guy who's terrorised the Warcraft Universe and been the BIG CHEESE for many years now. I would expect alot of celebration, think back to VE day (1945). Something along those lines, perhaps? Not in the style but the scale.

I planned (Smite me all ye' want heretics!) to see if Clay Farglade, my human, can arrange some sort of memorial funeral for the Menethil bloodline.
He's born Lordaeronian and the last heir to the throne, Arthas, have died.

To honour his kingdom, and that bloodline. I thought he could attempt to do something like this, provided more Lordaeronian players approve and attend.

Why smite? Sounds perfectly valid, if y'ask me. *shrug*

Hm. This is me being a bit of a nab, but what guilds on our server have an honest shot at actually taking the lich king down? Was pondering how we'll view it when it's actually done. If it's a server first kill, and the alliance achieve that, will our RP stories be then that the alliance forces were those that broke through and eventually ended the life of the Lichy bitchy?

Considering the fact there will be ICC Heroic I'm sure he must be killable for our server.

And I suppose if Alliance do reach first or Horde, we can go by that.
Fine by me, so to speak.

I should suspect that Tirion shiny-sword whats-his-face would claim the glory for the argent crusade

That might be a problem aye.

I didn't mean "Will he be able to be killed?" but rather "Who will be able to kill him?". I'm not sure what high-end PvE guilds exist on the Alliance side, and quite frankly, I'm not too sure about Horde either. <_<

Well depending on what actually happens ingame, like if the Crusade claim the glory or something...I have no problems with either Horde or Alliance claiming glory if they actually got the server first kill.

Thats assuming we have some people good enough to do it

I doubt most guilds will have any problems killing Arthas.

Hardmode, however...

Considering that high end PvE guilds don't have an IC "existance" (albeit respecting RP rulesets), I'd think it'd be inappropriate to assign a kill to one of them. After all, surely it'd take much more than 10/25 people to kill him actually.

A more "vague" reference to the defeat of the Lich King would be in order, I think. Just avoiding mentioning "who" killed him. Cause, if you think about it, "who" killed Kael'thas? And "who" killed him again? And "who" killed Vashj? Etc etc.

There might even be a new threat. If Horde people remember in Halls of Reflection the spirit of Uther talks with Slyvannas and says there always has to be a Lich King and they ponder who could take up the challange (not sure what happens with Jaina, so someone will have to fill me in).

As far as I know Worgen and Goblin will be able to become Death Knights too, so makes me wonder...

Morgeth wrote:I didn't mean "Will he be able to be killed?" but rather "Who will be able to kill him?". I'm not sure what high-end PvE guilds exist on the Alliance side, and quite frankly, I'm not too sure about Horde either. <_<

Revelations for sure.

Heresy, there are no worgen death knights.

"Heresy, there are no worgen death knights."

I can't believe it! Something you and Gunnell agree on! \o/

Gorge/Vargosh wrote:Heresy, there are no worgen death knights.

This. For those who think that there are the Gilnean Inquisition can always help you come into the light.

Personally though I believe that the Worgen and Goblin Death Knights will have already being in the Ebon Blade for some time and 'freed' at Lights Hope with the rest of them. During the two Scourge Invasions (Patch 1.11 and 3.0 launches) if the Scourge sent Necropollis to uninhabited places like Tanaris and Azhara then it is very likely they did so in Gilneas and Kerzan as well and considering that the player character Death Knights fell in these invasions (Well, the 3.0 one) it sounds like the option that makes the most sense.

So basicly, Worgen and Goblin Death Knights have always being a part of the Ebon Blade in lore but we have just never seen them in-game.

Gunnell/Graham/Alefadr wrote:

Gorge/Vargosh wrote:Heresy, there are no worgen death knights.

Personally though I believe that the Worgen and Goblin Death Knights will have already being in the Ebon Blade for some time and 'freed' at Lights Hope with the rest of them. During the two Scourge Invasions (Patch 1.11 and 3.0 launches) if the Scourge sent Necropollis to uninhabited places like Tanaris and Azhara then it is very likely they did so in Gilneas and Kerzan as well and considering that the player character Death Knights fell in these invasions (Well, the 3.0 one) it sounds like the option that makes the most sense.

So basicly, Worgen and Goblin Death Knights have always being a part of the Ebon Blade in lore but we have just never seen them in-game.

Most likely the bullshit reason that Blizz will pull out of their arses. Aye...I say we round them all up and give them to Exilius!

As I see it, no player should be able to claim to have slain important character lorewise in WoW. Meaning, credit for Lich King's death goes to Tirion alone while us players are merely part of the war effort.

Lotheran wrote:As I see it, no player should be able to claim to have slain important character lorewise in WoW. Meaning, credit for Lich King's death goes to Tirion alone while us players are merely part of the war effort.

We didn't refer to players. But the faction that gets first server kill was the -server-lore- faction to have done it.

But aboslutely no players.
Regardless; It's apparent this might not work.

Unfortunately, unless Blizzard force the event (such as a celebration shortly before Cataclysm for whichever side for the server-first), I doubt most people will accept it. There will obviously be the resentment and refusal to change role play because of some "OOCtard raiding guild" yelling that "teh Lichking iz dead lol" (not in any way saying that any or all raiding guilds are like that, but you know...) for three days in every major city.

Yes, it would be nice to advance the storyline at a reasonable pace instead of waking up on patch day to Cata and just having to suddenly decide Arthas is dead in an RP sense while the earthquakes are wrecking the joint. I would be more open to the suggestion that a date be picked before Cata (once the release date is announced) - say a month, for example, and whoever had the server first (whether it happened two days before or six months before that date) gets to have a party. And the other side get to have a war rally about how the credit is being stolen.

Or to avoid the old argument of "why should you get the RP because your raiding guild has more people who don't sleep" you could just have a joint party in a Sanctuary or neutral town. Credit could be given to the Argent Crusade over a particular faction, or both sides could claim credit in their own speeches. I'd prefer than having to change my RP (particularly being a DK) because someone rushed to kill Arthas 4 hours after the patch opened his encounter. Then again, some of us who are never likely to see Arthas die (or not die, depending on what Blizzard do), at least until we are level 85 and it becomes possible for the more casual player, wouldn't be bothered either way.

How about 'No player kills him'..?

Tirion with his Ashbringer, together with Jaina/Sylvy and some heroes of the Alliance killed Arthas, and no players did it just 'heroes'?

Do know that hte person that would be involved in killing Arthas would become a IC-hero the size of Fordring, Thrall etc. etc. and would be grossly reverred. I think we should leave such big things to the NCP's and IC heroes.

But thats just me!

Could be an interesting server event to celebrate the death of the Lich King. Even if he dies by OOCers' hands on DB. At least everyone would be on the same page then.

And yeah, naturally, his death would be by the hands of Tirion and friends.