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Post by (Goggy) - Exilius Mon May 10, 2010 8:08 pm

The battles of the Old horde are nothing compared to the shit we've faced, <_< Kil' Jaeden, the Lich King, we even went to the demon realm of Outland!

Alliance/Horde war is peanutbutt compared to that xD
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Post by Magaskawee/Anaei Mon May 10, 2010 10:44 pm

I'm sorry, but NOTHING could make the Tauren allow Cairne to be slain. Unless he just.. died of old age. If Garrosh executed Cairne the Trolls, Forsaken, Blood Elves and fucking Tauren would cut Garrosh off and launch an invasion.
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Post by Ataris Mon May 10, 2010 10:49 pm

Trolls maybe, but the Forsaken and BElves? Why do they care about Cairne at all?
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Post by Magaskawee/Anaei Mon May 10, 2010 10:54 pm

Ataris wrote:Trolls maybe, but the Forsaken and BElves? Why do they care about Cairne at all?

Because, if Garrosh can get away with killing the dei facto Right Hand to Thrall, he can get away with slaughtering Sylvanas and Lor'themar. It's called setting an example.
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Post by Ataris Mon May 10, 2010 10:56 pm

There's a difference there though. The Forsaken wants to wage war in the Eastern Kingdoms while Cairne probably doesn't. Garrosh approves of war.

BElves I can't speak for, but aren't they like being buddies with the Forsaken as well?
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Post by Magaskawee/Anaei Mon May 10, 2010 11:06 pm

Ataris wrote:There's a difference there though. The Forsaken wants to wage war in the Eastern Kingdoms while Cairne probably doesn't. Garrosh approves of war.

BElves I can't speak for, but aren't they like being buddies with the Forsaken as well?

The Blood Elves are in the horde solely on Sylvanas' threat to walk if they did not accept them. If Sylvanas walked the Horde would lose their city on the Eastern Kingdoms. With Sylvanas in the doghouse however, you are right in the fact they'll obey Garrosh for fear of being kicked out.

I still say slaughtering Cairne would make Thrall come back in full-force.
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Post by Ataris Mon May 10, 2010 11:18 pm

Yeah, but I don't think they'd be slaughtering him.

Assassinating makes things easier in this case.
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Post by Nithel Mon May 10, 2010 11:25 pm

Assassinate him and make it seem like it was the alliance? Two birds with one stone. Cairne is gone. And the peaceful Tauren race just became bloodlusty.


On a cataclysm note, not sure if it's been posted here before but.. goblin animations! They look rather neat and fresh Surprised There's also a nifty HD option if you watch it in youtube!


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Post by Magaskawee/Anaei Tue May 11, 2010 12:35 am

I've actually given Goblin alot of thought and decided to play one.
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Post by Mallea/Trollmeat Tue May 11, 2010 1:46 am

Hello I'm deathwing I just popped in to consume your entire nation.
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Post by (Goggy) - Exilius Tue May 11, 2010 4:13 am

Now that is proper size. o,o
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Post by Baròth / Olian Tue May 11, 2010 6:08 am

Mallea wrote:Hello I'm deathwing I just popped in to consume your entire nation.
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*stares up at Deathwing while slowly sneaking to Duskwood* Niiiiiiiiice dragon... Niiiiiice dragon....
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Post by Tso/Feloreth Tue May 11, 2010 6:14 am

Anaei wrote:I'm sorry, but NOTHING could make the Tauren allow Cairne to be slain. Unless he just.. died of old age. If Garrosh executed Cairne the Trolls, Forsaken, Blood Elves and fucking Tauren would cut Garrosh off and launch an invasion.

Are you Blizzard? :>
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Post by Zhakiri Tue May 11, 2010 6:41 am

It's called logic Aomir, even Blizzard can't just make the decision one day..."OH LOL! Lets get Cairne slain by da horde and make the Tauren just roll with it!!!!"

Well they can...But it'd be retarded and unrealistic. You don't just do that.

P.s, I heard for every goblin rolled a child gets gangreen! ROLL WORGEN!

P.s.s DEATHWING ROKZZZ!!!!!!!:O
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Post by Shaelyssa Tue May 11, 2010 7:39 am

Nygarth wrote:

But it'd be retarded and unrealistic. You don't just do that.

But Blizzard does.
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Post by Gahalla Tue May 11, 2010 7:54 am

Nygarth wrote:It's called logic Aomir, even Blizzard can't just make the decision one day..."OH LOL! Lets get Cairne slain by da horde and make the Tauren just roll with it!!!!"

Well they can...But it'd be retarded and unrealistic. You don't just do that.

We don't know enough detail to speculate wether or not it is realistic. For all we know Cairne could have decided to take his own personal bodyguard, go into Garrosh's throne room and just attacked him without any prior warning. I guarantee the tauren would be more confused, angry and disappointed in Cairne than in Garrosh if that was the case.

Also, much like Thrall among the orcs. I think that Cairne's popularity among the Tauren might be a tad exaggerated among the playerbase. We do know that the grimtotem for instance do not like him and that they're very influential among the tauren (hinting that there's more tribes who are neutral at best to Cairne and the bloodhoof). For all we know, Baine himself could be one of the minds behind the execution (if there indeed was one) as well.

That said... I find it far more likely that Cairne was taken by old age (because the man is literally ancient. He was extremely old in wc3, almost crippled by his age in frozen throne and have pursued a policy of compromise, stability and solitude ever since. Typical of rulers in their final years) or by the cataclysm (possible when saving those children in the concept art). That he died a ruler or a hero.

Mostly because... if he died a traitor... why would he be allowed a formal and celebrated burial?
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Post by Ataris Tue May 11, 2010 8:05 am

To show the players that he died visually. It's more about game design in that case, I'd say.
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Post by Jakins Tue May 11, 2010 9:13 am

Ataris wrote:To show the players that he died visually. It's more about game design in that case, I'd say.

You mean like this picture? :https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img130/2439/wowscrnshot050910202520.jpg

I mean, it has a pretty important grave there.
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Post by Ataris Tue May 11, 2010 9:31 am

Yeah, exactly.
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Post by Magaskawee/Anaei Tue May 11, 2010 11:55 am

Mallea wrote:Hello I'm deathwing I just popped in to consume your entire nation.
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Maybe all that time beneath the earth has buggered his sense of direction.

"What? Who put this city here?"
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Post by Guest Tue May 11, 2010 12:24 pm

Hahaha, Anaei xD

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Post by Ehrfürchtige Bennedict Tue May 11, 2010 12:35 pm

First thing I thought when I saw that image was...

"Hmm, I wonder if I can ride on it Very Happy"

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Post by Raviran / Reynar Tue May 11, 2010 12:48 pm

Answer: Yes


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Post by Baròth / Olian Tue May 11, 2010 2:41 pm

When Blizzard's employees gets over their heads,this happens.


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Post by Geldar Tue May 11, 2010 2:44 pm

Didn`t know that Deathwing`s diet consisted of Elven districts, good though. Now he opened up some room for our water themed park. "Varian Land."
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