Re: Diary of Coppersocket

by **Terenus** Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:07 am

Raene wrote:I'm sorry about this, really sorry about going and digging this thread back up again...

But wtf did I just read? Did someone from DoL actually just use their RBG rank as an IC rank? Hahahaha!

Oh yeah, and I've personally gutted Garrosh, downed Deathwing, lanced the Lich King, and something beginning with I on Illidan.

Sorry, but no DoL. Lieutenant Commanders or not, considering how easy it is to boost people through RBG's to get them a basic officer title, we're not having EVERYONE claim to be an officer in the Alliance.

That's just stupid.

As predicted.
Almost like setting up a character arc for Warlords of Draenor that I've been working towards for a couple of months, oh, wait, that's exactly what it is. But it's good to see instead of asking why I did that, you just skip ahead to an irrelevant thread to bitch about me. Great to see, actually, shows your attitude towards matter perfectly. Now, if you want to bitch further I advise you take it somewhere relevant.

by **Raene** Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:14 am

Sorry Lieutenant Commander, but I was there with the King when he killed Garrosh.

I think Monarch privileges outranks you.

by **Charlie Blazesong** Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:15 am

Terenus wrote:
Raene wrote:I'm sorry about this, really sorry about going and digging this thread back up again...

But wtf did I just read? Did someone from DoL actually just use their RBG rank as an IC rank? Hahahaha!

Oh yeah, and I've personally gutted Garrosh, downed Deathwing, lanced the Lich King, and something beginning with I on Illidan.

Sorry, but no DoL. Lieutenant Commanders or not, considering how easy it is to boost people through RBG's to get them a basic officer title, we're not having EVERYONE claim to be an officer in the Alliance.

That's just stupid.
As predicted.
Almost like setting up a character arc for Warlords of Draenor that I've been working towards for a couple of months, oh, wait, that's exactly what it is. But it's good to see instead of asking why I did that, you just skip ahead to an irrelevant thread to bitch about me. Great to see, actually, shows your attitude towards matter perfectly. Now, if you want to bitch further I advise you take it somewhere relevant.

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by **Adry** Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:19 am

Just to clarify, when I said ignited, it was just to give Raene a word that begins with I to describe what he did to Illidan. I'm entirely neutral here. *runs and hides*

by **Coppersocket** Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:56 am

Raene wrote:I'm sorry about this, really sorry about going and digging this thread back up again...

Get your own thread to bitch at people.

I do the bitching here.

(Besides, PVP titles are hardly worth mentioning in RP. In comparison, I think using a actual title that you can claim in-game is better than claiming a title you can't. Besides, having a Lt. Commander is hardly as bad as all the archmages and whatnot we've seen.

RPers love to claim fancy titles to boost their E-peen. This isn't news to anyone, nor is it strange.)

by **erwtenpeller** Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:37 am

Coppersocket wrote:I think using a actual title that you can claim in-game is better than claiming a title you can't. Besides, having a Lt. Commander is hardly as bad as all the archmages and whatnot we've seen.

I sort of agree with this. Why shouldn't you use an awesome title you've worked hard to get? We're all playing roles here. If someone wants to play the role of Lieutenant commander, and has the in-game title to back it up, why not let them?

Doesn't mean you have to take their orders if you don't want to.

Sheesh.

Lighten up.

by **Lexgrad** Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:41 am

Ok I killed Arthas. #kingslayer

by **Allonia_Miral** Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:45 am

I wish I had the Sergeant title back when I was an IC sergeant, that would have been cool ;_;

by **erwtenpeller** Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:48 am

Lexgrad wrote:Ok I killed Arthas. #kingslayer

I don't actually mind people wanting to role-play a character that was there for the killing of Arthas, or any other major lore event. Why not? If you want to be "that guy", go ahead. Who's it really hurting, huh?

by **Coppersocket** Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:11 pm

Kingslayer could mean a number of different things. Doesn't necessarily need to be what you did to gain the title.

Could have slain a mountain king or otherwise, and gained the title due to your achievements. Doesn't even need to be an achievement, could be called that out of spite because your character has too big an ego so they added it to your name to mock you.
It's all about imagination really.

Perhaps it's time we wrote up a list of the titles and examples of where they could fit in? Such as the Wakener, or Starcaller.

by **erwtenpeller** Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:50 pm

That seems entirely unnecessary...

by **Coppersocket** Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:02 pm

Perhaps, but we got a mount list, which happens to be entirely pointless as well. So why the fuck not?

by **Raene** Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:38 pm

MAH IMMURSHUN!

No, but seriously.

I'm all for people vaguely referencing that they've been in some war killing a ton of bad shit, or leading X, Y, Z units into A, B, C fights. But going around using titles and palming them off as mere throwaways that you can chop and change at a moments notice is just bad conduct for RP.

This ESPECIALLY gets irksome when you want to RP in some kind of world that is all about crafting war. By rights, what you're saying is that if I earn the Grand Marshal title, I can go around on -any- of my characters (because titles transfer), and then go around claiming I'm some super high ranking official because hey.

Doesn't mean you have to take their orders if you don't want to.

Well no, that's bad. I don't know about what kind of fantastical military's you guys imagine, but they don't work like that. You tell a Grand Marshal to go fuck himself you're going to find yourself with the MP's at your door wishing to charge you. It makes titles worthless, and it makes ranks in game also worthless.

I'm not saying don't be these big people, I'm not saying that at all. There's all this RP going on where people are getting Field Marshal titles, and going around in preparation of WoD in these big cross guild events that are in the works and that I can respect. They're using their titles ICly and OOCly to promote RP. Not dicking around in full plate in a bar.

Whilst we're at it... Because now I'm just fishing, and I know people love to bite in this thread (sorry Copper), can anyone please confirm the multiple rumours I've heard about people from DoL refusing to communicate with anyone who doesn't have one of these aforementioned titles? I wanna see just how far this douchebaggery goes.

by **Muzjhath** Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:58 pm

Using one of the military titles can be something outside of the larger factions. Maybe that person holds that rank in a smaller force. "Lt General of "

by **Charlie Blazesong** Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:07 pm

The rbg titles are character specific..

by **Coppersocket** Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:15 pm

Raene wrote:Whilst we're at it... Because now I'm just fishing, and I know people love to bite in this thread (sorry Copper), can anyone please confirm the multiple rumours I've heard about people from DoL refusing to communicate with anyone who doesn't have one of these aforementioned titles? I wanna see just how far this douchebaggery goes.

I can confirm the opposite as someone who recently left Disciples OOCly. Titles have nothing to do with our RP beyond possibly the titles within the group itself, but that's guild ranks. But depending on how your character behaves, it can be viewed as something mostly there for flavor.

by **Raene** Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:38 pm

Charlie Blazesong wrote:The rbg titles are character specific..

Are they...?

My bad!

I'm not amending it, going to leave my mistake up there for people to see.

Muzjhath wrote:Using one of the military titles can be something outside of the larger factions.

Seemingly with Shadris as the only General in the entire Alliance what with General being a Horde title, I'm somewhat okay with this.

I don't mind a million Archmages, Archdruids, Dragonsworn, Swordmasters, Warlords, Kings, Queens, Princes, Princesses, Demon hunters, etc etc.

This is going to sound highly hypocritical, but feel free to RP whatever the hell you want so long as you're doing it properly, and not to help you win a dick measuring contest.

Coppersocket wrote:I can confirm the opposite as someone who recently left Disciples OOCly. Titles have nothing to do with our RP beyond possibly the titles within the group itself, but that's guild ranks. But depending on how your character behaves, it can be viewed as something mostly there for flavor.

Terenus last night was making a big show ICly of how much of an awesome war hero he was, and when challenged about it, he immediately went straight to the "But I'm a Lt. Cdr". Well congratulations on breaching 2000 on your RBG rating, but that don't mean shit.

That being said, that's not what I'm getting at. Some 'people' have bitched previously about DoL, saying that some of RPers were outright ignored in RP by DoL, and when asked why, they said something along the lines of being told OOCly because they lacked PvP titles, they weren't worth RPing with.

A long time ago someone made a post here on defiasrp about how if you're going to say you're something, you need to be able to back it up.

It was used as an attack against someone who was whining about RP-PvP being unfair to him and his guild because he was always losing and that it was unrealistic because ICly they'd have all this prowess and martial capability, and someone said that if you're going to RP as a high ranking figure, you need to be able to back it up. I found myself agreeing with the general sentiment, but now it all seems backwards.

Like, people have got the ability to back up their titles, but they're lacking the IC/OOC capability to RP what they're claiming to be. That just seems fucked up.

by **erwtenpeller** Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:43 pm

Raene wrote:Well congratulations on breaching 2000 on your RBG rating, but that don't mean shit.

Why not, though? They've worked hard to get that title, I think that should give them a certain entitlement to use it in their role-play. pirat

by **Coppersocket** Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:49 pm

Raene wrote:Terenus

Some 'people' have bitched previously about DoL, saying that some of RPers were outright ignored in RP by DoL, and when asked why, they said something along the lines of being told OOCly because they lacked PvP titles, they weren't worth RPing with.

Terenus does not reflect upon the entirety of the guild. He's one guy. If he behaves like an ass, speak to Beladon.

"Some people" can be anyone and can be judging their RP with the "disciples" by just a single guy from the guild, rather than the guild in entirety. If such behavior appears you should, as stated before: Talk to Beladon, because that sort of behavior is fucking stupid.

by **Arabella Greene** Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:52 pm

You are such an ass-hat.

Edit: Aimed at Raene

by **Raene** Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:56 pm

Cheers hun'.

by **Terenus** Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:15 pm

Raene wrote:
Coppersocket wrote:I can confirm the opposite as someone who recently left Disciples OOCly. Titles have nothing to do with our RP beyond possibly the titles within the group itself, but that's guild ranks. But depending on how your character behaves, it can be viewed as something mostly there for flavor.

Terenus last night was making a big show ICly of how much of an awesome war hero he was, and when challenged about it, he immediately went straight to the "But I'm a Lt. Cdr". Well congratulations on breaching 2000 on your RBG rating, but that don't mean shit.

That being said, that's not what I'm getting at. Some 'people' have bitched previously about DoL, saying that some of RPers were outright ignored in RP by DoL, and when asked why, they said something along the lines of being told OOCly because they lacked PvP titles, they weren't worth RPing with.

A long time ago someone made a post here on defiasrp about how if you're going to say you're something, you need to be able to back it up.

It was used as an attack against someone who was whining about RP-PvP being unfair to him and his guild because he was always losing and that it was unrealistic because ICly they'd have all this prowess and martial capability, and someone said that if you're going to RP as a high ranking figure, you need to be able to back it up. I found myself agreeing with the general sentiment, but now it all seems backwards.

Like, people have got the ability to back up their titles, but they're lacking the IC/OOC capability to RP what they're claiming to be. That just seems fucked up.

Gotta love the pure bullshit in this post Raene. Terenus was just talking to people, -YOU- started going off on one about how Terenus has never seen a fight, etc, and he was just like "Yeah, I have this rank - I think I have." and left it there. YOU, were the one who was going on about how nobody but your character has ever actually gotten in a fight, etc. And when that whole attack failed IC you took it OOC to go bitch in an irrelevant thread that was once vaguely related to DOL.
And now you're saying:
"if you're going to RP as a high ranking figure, you need to be able to back it up. I found myself agreeing with the general sentiment"
I have the title in game, because I managed to achieve 2k rating with Coppersocket (and finally grabbed it with Inran's group after we got so close).
I think I can back it up, if I was saying I was a commander of the Alliance Military when the most RP I did was constricted to Stormwind councils or getting ganked in Arathi, then yeah, that'd be a fucking issue. If I was using the title purely because I wanted to seem bad ass, yes, issue.

The difference is, I am using this to set up a character arc that's part of the development for Terenus that has been in mind for over a year now, a character arc that has always involved him failing in the line of responsibility to reinforce aspects of his character that have been present since the start of his being RPed. Will he use this title in the month before WOD? Yes. Because as you said before, it'd be weird for me to suddenly have this title as soon as it becomes relevant to the situation.
But hey! Maybe next time you try to start an E-peen contest IC with someone, you won't choose y'know, the person who's been a part of every RP-PVP campaign since I started playing him, the character in full plate at the bar, and the character who's carrying a huge mace that has to be "compensating" and not to kill people with as your character pointed out as soon as you saw him, and most of all: Won't go to bitch on the internet after it didn't work out for you.
You seriously need to learn to separate IC and OOC, because right now it's seriously evident you lack that ability.

by **Coppersocket** Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:24 pm

This conversation ends now. What you people believe or how you want to defend yourselves is fucking irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. I decided to respond as I simply disagreed, however I didn't expect or want it to develop further.

So, what topic? The topic I choose, and the topic you're on is currently not the one that I have chosen.

Selfish isn't it? Well, my thread. Fuck you.
Stay on topic (Gnome incest and gnome abomination crushing female trolls with their vagina) or please, get the fuck out.

by **Raene** Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:26 pm

Removed

by **Arabella Greene** Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:30 pm

How can people bring themselves to draw this stuff? The vagina crushing one that is.

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