Alliance and Horde are Not Equal for Blizzard (!)

And goblins don't need a leader!

The whole population of Stormwind alone, around 200,000 is greater then all the other races of the Horde *combined* (Orcs: 18,000, Forsaken: 16,000 Darkspear: 6,500, Tauren: 8,000) When it comes to technology, the Alliance seems to be superior as well. Plus the ties between some members of the Horde are fragile at best (Blood Elves and Forsaken anyone?) The Alliance should have overwhelmed the Horde long ago, but then we wouldn't have a game left. Then again, it's fun to root for the underdog, the satisfaction of winning something is a lot greater.

Also, where are our stalwart Dwarven leaders in MoP, Blizz said they'd continue their story, all I got was to do was playing Varian's squire who runs off with all the credit for my work to boot.

Dorik Thunderbelly wrote:The whole population of Stormwind alone, around 200,000 is greater then all the other races of the Horde *combined* (Orcs: 18,000, Forsaken: 16,000 Darkspear: 6,500, Tauren: 8,000) When it comes to technology, the Alliance seems to be superior as well. Plus the ties between some members of the Horde are fragile at best (Blood Elves and Forsaken anyone?) The Alliance should have overwhelmed the Horde long ago, but then we wouldn't have a game left. Then again, it's fun to root for the underdog, the satisfaction of winning something is a lot greater.

Also, where are our stalwart Dwarven leaders in MoP, Blizz said they'd continue their story, all I got was to do was playing Varian's squire who runs off with all the credit for my work to boot.

Don't those numbers also leave us with 25.000 High Elves annd 225.000 Blood Elves before all the shit hits the fan during TBC etc.?

Those numbers are not realistic and I will not be recognizing that Stormwind has 200,000 and a bigger population than 1) the Orcish Horde that kicked their asses and 2) the greatest human capital on azeroth pre-third world war that somehow is only 16,000.

On top of that, WoWikki also goes out and states that the Scarlet Crusade numbered 45,000 15,000 in Tyr's Hand. So unless Lordaeron had a massive population of say, a few hundred thousand then it would have been impossible for the Scarlet Crusade to be that size in the first place.

Also, I am not sure where you got those numbers from, but if they are from the RPG books you have to remember those are not canon lore. As stated here:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2721372142

Here is the quote for easy access:

Bashiok wrote:Q: Are the Warcraft and World of Warcraft RPG books considered canon?
A: No. The RPG books were created to provide an engaging table-top role-playing experience, which sometimes required diverging from the established video game canon. Blizzard helped generate a great deal of the content within the RPG books, so there will be times when ideas from the RPG will make their way into the game and official lore, but you are much better off considering the RPG books non-canonical unless otherwise stated.

Djem / Cemdor wrote:Also, I am not sure where you got those numbers from, but if they are from the RPG books you have to remember those are not canon lore. As stated here:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2721372142

Here is the quote for easy access:

Bashiok wrote:Q: Are the Warcraft and World of Warcraft RPG books considered canon?
A: No. The RPG books were created to provide an engaging table-top role-playing experience, which sometimes required diverging from the established video game canon. Blizzard helped generate a great deal of the content within the RPG books, so there will be times when ideas from the RPG will make their way into the game and official lore, but you are much better off considering the RPG books non-canonical unless otherwise stated.

It's a confusing source to quote, considering it doesn't specify which bits are non-canon or not. They also said that all of the official RPGs were canon up until that post, so I still think a lot of it is relevant and down to debate. I'm not sure if they made this comment because the publishers of the books lost their license to do so.

Yeah people use that to assume that the RBG books are all wrong unless stated. Infact it implies that they are all correct unless stated. In practice however this is also not so.

Also, when it comes to the Horde being fewer in numbers than the alliance, I think it's fair to keep in mind that pretty much 95 out of 96 Horde members can be considered warriors of some sort or another, where as the alliance is alot squishier with your population and civillians.

Response to Gor: 11 humans per orc? Seems unfair.
They'd better add some dwarves to even out the odds!

10-11 Humans for each Orc, oh yes. *Sharpens axe*

Numbers Shmumbers.

Ebon blade and their few thousand at most say "always outnumbered... never out gunned!!!"

And that's a brilliant album.

Time to go listen to Spitfire, thanks Lex.

What were dealing with here... is a total lack of respect for the lore.

lol

Vangrel Lansire wrote:lol

#cray