Blood Elves and High Elves; Irreversible?

You could try poking Emrys if you want, she's expressed interest in the religious side of Blood Elf rp'ers.

The problem is with Roleplaying as we all think how the current situation is for the Blood Elves is the fact that nobody is %100 sure and what if we all got it wrong? You can't really delete years of RP as a community, it's a big risk.

With regards to the Light Worshipping Belfs and the troubles of not seeing them is actually a good think, in my opinion they would mostly be in Shatrath with the Knight Lady following her preaches, not arguing in the inn or stand out in shiny armour in the bazaar. But! For all we know in current times she may have returned home and is preaching to the Knights back at home... Nobody knows anything for sure.

I do think it would be nice for a group or guild to situate themselves in Shatrath and perhaps return home to gain followers in the name of the Light, would be a nice difference to all the other exact same (replica) Belf guilds out there. You'd certainly have Sin Belores support if you chose to do this. Hell if I had Internet I'd roll an alt to help kick start it.

Waith a minute, shatrath, isn't Liadrin now at the Sunwell?
That's the most recent place she's showed up in.

Kaleil Sunstrike wrote:You'd certainly have Sin Belores support if you chose to do this.

By some of it atleast OOCly.

Kaleil Sunstrike wrote:if I had Internet

Wait what? This isn't the internet??

Lady Sunburn has walked around Silvermoon a couple of times. I don't have the steam to start any real initiative that goes beyond a single-character investment, I'm having waaay too much fun with the Shatterskull Marauders, entering and organizing Game-mastered events.

Kristeas Sunbinder wrote:Waith a minute, shatrath, isn't Liadrin now at the Sunwell?
That's the most recent place she's showed up in.

I suppose her latest appearance in the time-line was at the sunwell event, but her character model still hangs out in Shattrath.

I don't see why Liadrin siding with the Sha'tar would have any sort of impact in forcing the Belf playerbase to follow Liadrin. While it would make sense that her blood knights would follow her, there's nothing in lore that would logically -force- them to, and so I believe the players should have the free will to do what they want? I mean, M'uru's spark was used to re-fuel the sunwell so logically you could just feed from the Sunwell and have your character disregard the Sha'tar.

As has already been said, Blood Knights can be employed by the magisters as they hold great power in Silvermoon.


Also: The difference between a High Elf and a Blood Elf is roughly the same as a human Warlock and a human Mage. They're the exact same race, they just call themselves something different.

As been said, the differnce between High Elf and Blood Elf is mostly political.
One fled while the other stayed behind.
The latter see the former as weaklings whom abandoned their brothers and sisters to go beg for mercy with weaker and lesser racers.

Which is one of the reasons the Blood Elfs act oh so very arrogant towards the High Elfs when you see events happen in game. Since they consider them traitors at worst and weaklings at best.

As for light following Blood Elfs, my paladin is an actual paladin. But she's highly inactive and was for a long while aligned with the Argent Dawn/Crusade.

Kinda disagree with why Blood Elves are arrogant. As a race the Blood elves and Highborne are all arrogant as borne out by the interactions between the Highborne and Night Elves in "Wolfheart".

And give up our awesomeness? \o/

Alliance smells of... little people. Goblins don't count, they're not people. XD

All Elves are arrogant, the only attribute the Sin'Dorei have compared to their cousins is the fact they are both cunning and malicious behind everyones backs, they are like the women in the tv programme Big Brother.

All I can say is bring on a Belf and Squid update!

Stubborn fool that I am, I boosted a human girl to level 20 to try this concept out and test the water.

Her character name is "Zonnevuur", In character name still Lady Sunburn.

While I care very, very little for Elves. I was under the impression that Fel corrpution is something that's near permanent? If it can be removed, it takes a bunch of generations to completely remove it, and by then the race' body has simply adapted to it long a go and has started to evolve in it's own way. While you can make the effect less prominent (See Hellscreams), you can't completely nullify the effect (See Orcs)

I've also heard that Blood Elves have begun 'evolving' into their own race, rather than a part of the High Elves, due to this.

I'm not sure about the second part, however I am quite sure that it's quite impossible to reverse the effect caused by the Fel taint. It's a deep corruption.

Well, then perhaps it is illusion magic; perhaps they are still green. Perhaps it'll turn out this elf turned her back on her brethren and has been a high elf all along; I'm just going to go play and find out.

Aren't Orcs more deeply corrupted than
Belfs though?

I've also tried playing a lighty-"redeemed" belf, and i too found it frustratimg.

I'd suggest rerolling, or just retconning your character to have always been quel'dorei.

I find RPing out the religious beliefs of my character one of the most difficult yet one of the most interesting things to do, as for a priestess, it is one of the most important things of her being. Although it is very hard to make sense of what would be plausible for a blood elf to believe in as, like you have already noticed, things pretty much froze up in belf lore on that aspect after TBC.

I made somewhat of a timeline for myself to determine what Emrys has believed in over time. She must have been a member of the Church of the Holy Light at some point, but had to sever those ties after the human’s betrayal. Emrys as a character had very firm beliefs, and I have always supposed she could call upon that force of the Light through her faith at any given moment. After the invasion, she desperately wanted to keep on believing, but seeing the devastation of the Scourge attack somewhere deep down in her heart she could no longer have faith in the Light as firmly as she did before, which caused her to lose her faith and power for a certain period of time. With not even the Sunwell present to fall back on, she had to resort to fel to survive after growing weaker and weaker.

She slowly regained her faith, which slowly but steadily allowed her to call upon the Light again. The Sunwell being restored only gave her a firmer basis of strength to draw from when needed, which probably improved her ability to channel her magic vastly.

As it stands now, Emrys is basically on a path to find out what she believes in, she stil values the three virtues of the Light, as she feels they hold a lot of truth. But I also feel she greatly adopted the Blood Elven mindset of personal growth and development, trying to balance the truth. Ofcourse, she will never become a member of the Church of the Holy Light anymore, but she is not one to speak ill of them either. She respects beliefs.

This is also somewhat based on my personal view of what religion should be like, mixed with things that seem logical lorewise and for the character. I am not sure if it is 100% correct, but I think it makes enough sense to go with it.

Look into the Naaruvada. Following the revaluations of the Naaru would be the most logical step for a faithful Blood Elf.

Yet, RPing that can be done much more easily by simply rolling a Draenei.

I doubt Emrys would ever truely follow the Naaru, which is something that is rather alien to her. I believe her to have studied the ways of the light and perhaps, some time ago, to also have studied Elune (the whole 'Elune is a Naaru' theory aside). So she would more likely fall back on such things, studying the Naaru she would find interesting, if only to gain more knowledge on the subject, as one of their kind did bring renewed life to the Sunwell and all. She is above all, a very curious creature.

In a sense, the Sunwell now is a Naaru.

Yeah. And Ladia Liadrin is totally into the Naaru now, who is arguably the most important Blood Knight in the lore. Disciples following her would be the next logical step.

Orcish corruption may be something to consider here. A Green Orc + Brown Orc = Brown Orc. It was said that Thrall's child will be Mag'har, so eventually the orcish race -will- if they each breed with a mag'har, be brown.

Perhaps the same applies to elves? Breeding it out, may perhaps be the only way to return the whole race.

The naaru and the light are useless and won't do anything!!!

Elune on the other hand has the power to turn the satyr back into night elves :) ... so fel corruption from that angle ( as fel corruption much more extreme that belf/helf corruption) is definitely reversible as long as the character repents and redeems themselves, so I dont see why belf/nelf corruption isn't reversible too

Shaelyssa wrote:The naaru and the light are useless and won't do anything!!!

Elune on the other hand has the power to turn the satyr back into night elves ... so fel corruption from that angle ( as fel corruption much more extreme that belf/helf corruption) is definitely reversible as long as the character repents and redeems themselves, so I dont see why belf/nelf corruption isn't reversible too

Further proof I think Elune is an Old God.. She does NOTHING useful. Oh, healing some nice wounds there, noticed Ashenvale Elune? It's pretty much gone.. Silly Goddess..

if elune just steps in at the slightest bit of trouble, we'd never grow and flourish as a race!!! lazy goodfornothing deadbeat humans like you wouldnt under that hardship is needed for growth tsh

and better an old god than a naaru. I would gladly serve Elunsaron until the twilight!!!!

E'lune is so totally going to be revealed to be a Naaru.

So far I've gotten a bit of random RP with alliance sunburn. I'll stick "Still has the green eyes" in her description as an experiment, to check out the reactions. My level 20 paladin is now just a little experiment to see how the idea is received and if I can pull it off, if the local lighties want to stick her on a pyre and burn her for the witch she is, so be it!

Thygore wrote:Why technically abandoning fel is doable, I think it would pretty much tick off ALL the races if they'd just decide to waltz back to the Alliance.
I'd expect them to be treated like little more than traitorous trash IF even taken back.

One does not just choose side as underwear. :!

Churchill did twice and it worked out ok for him "Any man can rat, but it takes a great man to rat twice"