Discussion regarding IC resurrections

I've always preferred the idea of any resurrections being temporary. The idea of bringing back a character that would be hugely useful for wisdom on a subject or current situation to be an interesting thing.

But, having said that, I'd have it done in such a way that it either has a time limit, or the person that performed the ressurection has the power to cancel it out. During the period for Deathwing's emergence when Stormwind was covered in all sorts of things attacking, I brought back a character based on energies in Azeroth breaking down. Once it was restored, he was gone again.

Permanent ressurection irks me. Since if you take the step to kill a character, you should really leave it at that. The emotional impact on the characters close to whoever died is lessened by a huge degree if that persons walks into a room a week later.

I personally think that a ressurection, like the holy spells of priests and paladins. Can only be performed if the target died within the closest 15min, before the spirit has actually managed to leave the body properly, and far away enough.


But a guy who was dead for a week, or half a year suddenly coming back, I just don't see it happening unless it was done by necromancy, which isn't a ressurection at all.

But that's my opinion on that.

Drustai wrote:

Yes. But, resurrection can add to the emotional response when done well. It's when it's done arbitrarily that it completely defeats the purpose. As Thelos said, "off-screen" resurrections, done by random NPCs, are completely and utterly arbitrary and serve no point. In the same vein, off-screen deaths are equally boring. The best deaths, and the best resurrections, are those that take place 'on-screen', through RP with actual characters.

Well, I have never seen an on-screen ressurection that left me satisfied. That made me feel anything beyond: Right, here we go again. Nothing breath-taking nothing to leave me standing in awe, wondering the possibilities of this act. no.

Death has a finality to it. The pointless deaths more then the heroic, "Look at how awesome this character is here in this moment", deaths. They are supposed to hurt, and hurt much. Both OOCly and ICly to the owner and the on-lookers. It is an end. and end to years and years of character creation just to be ripped apart from all the lives of the characters they rped with for years. a storyline unfulfilled, A quest unfinished, a path broken by inevitability. And damned yes that should hurt. It should twist your gut into a tight knot and leave you breathless wondering: What now?

Those are the best deaths. And only few make it into that category, and its those deaths that leave you there, even years later making you think: Shit that was some awesome RP. Not because it was fun, or great, even though it was, but because it did something other then normal perpetual reoccurring plot lines that is WoW-RP.

And to see that memory broken because four year later after three months of RP that character is resurrected, Well, it kinda ruined the moment.

well.. I personaly think total resurections are possible and should not be frowned uppon, only time frowning is needed is when its an off screen resurection,otherwise it can be done under these certain other conditions:
deads sloul is still close buy
a body is present
person is powerfull enough to do such a ritual or has frends to help
person has a reason to rez
dead expressed a wish to stay alive
it is done ic
with the proper materials

such a thing would also draw attention from civilians around them as such a thing would in my opinion make standerd people around feel.. weard as the air fills with ehergies from the ritual.. so it woldnt go unnoticed eather

Faralan wrote:I personally think that a ressurection, like the holy spells of priests and paladins. Can only be performed if the target died within the closest 15min, before the spirit has actually managed to leave the body properly, and far away enough.


But a guy who was dead for a week, or half a year suddenly coming back, I just don't see it happening unless it was done by necromancy, which isn't a ressurection at all.

But that's my opinion on that.

Yep this is Mine too.

I would assume you'd need something of the dead person to bring them back if they'd been dead a while. And if they've been gone a while, they're not going to be 100% who they used to be. Their head will be full of the trauma of dying, and suddenly, they're back in a functional body. It would take a long time for them to regain themselves if you ask me. And even then, they'd still be slightly off.

There's times when ooc does play into it somewhat, though.

I've had...one character resuerrected and wouldn't really ever do it again.

It was rather odd circumstances; he'd been captured, and a botched rescue attempt followed, with things escalating far beyond what they should have; the 'rescuers' ended up shooting at the people they were meant to rescue for some odd reason, and as the captors fled, one threw an axe at my guy. Impaled into his shoulder pretty badly, but, if he'd been taken to a healer, he'd probably have pulled through. Instead, the people on my side decided to wrench the axe out, leaving me without any option than, well, bleeding out and dying.

Now, the original captors had been very decent oocly and prodded to ask if I minded the guy dying; I'd asked if they could try to avoid it unless rp led to no other option. The actual injury would have been survivable if it hadn't been handled the way it was. The people that took the action that killed him, on the other hand, hadn't expected that would happen, oocly, and were pretty shocked/surprised when I took it as it would happen realisticly. Violently removing an impaled object = death, though.

So, there was a fair bit of strangeness; after his body was buried, it was grave robbed & mutilated. However, his soul had been captured by an interfering little warlock whilst he was awaiting burial. His brother came to the city to retrieve his things, and was murdered to provide a fresh 'vessel'; he was bought back, in rather long, bloody, and creepy ritual, and suffers frequent violent flashbacks, as well as a few strange effects on his personality and so forth. Luckily the characters about me had enough motivation to go through all of this; he's been a very 'innocent', harmless and fluffy little nervous character, and quite a few were gutted oocly as well as icly when they found out he'd kicked the bucket.

Now, all the above was done icly, on-screen, using people's 'real' characters, and real motivations, not just my desire to rsume playing an enjoyable character. Even though I'm happy it was done, because he died only through ooc miscommunication/misunderstanding, I still wonder if it'd have been more poignant if he'd just been a needless fuck-up of a casualty.

... does dragging a girl to a goblin and paying for said goblin to shock the girl with a stun baton count? Cause, i've done that before.

Kittrina wrote:So, there was a fair bit of strangeness; after his body was buried, it was grave robbed & mutilated.

Oh, i remember that guy

Kittrina wrote:
It was rather odd circumstances; he'd been captured, and a botched rescue attempt followed, with things escalating far beyond what they should have; the 'rescuers' ended up shooting at the people they were meant to rescue for some odd reason, and as the captors fled, one threw an axe at my guy. Impaled into his shoulder pretty badly, but, if he'd been taken to a healer, he'd probably have pulled through. Instead, the people on my side decided to wrench the axe out, leaving me without any option than, well, bleeding out and dying.

The moment when they pull the axe from your back and then they realized you're dead because of them. Priceless.

I treat IC ressing as a Sort of Defibleration with magic kick starting the person back to life whilst healing some very nasty wounds as for out right death though where yer character is dead for a pro-longed time then i believe it would be somewhat of a corpse you bring back really. The IC ressing defib bit though is my view on Rp-PvP ressing that it's a "Quit lying down on the job ya bum!" move.

But i guess it is also kinda down to what magic is used the line is pretty wibbly wobbly who's to say really as long as it doesn't make too much of an impact or rock the boat too much it's fine i guess.