Silly question

If you do it through a soul swap, warlock magic. I see no issue with it.

It'd be awesome if a Gnome could be a shaman, that way if you did this you could use the Shaman wolf form as a twisted version of the Worgen change.

Soul swap might be fun. Like the slash horrors where heads are swapped.

Should be a Gnome in a worgen body too

Lexgrad wrote:Should be a Gnome in a worgen body too

Ferocious gnome!

gnomes are ferocious enough all ready.. they dont need an added worgen curse too.. that would make the ultimate raging mini army man

It's perfectly possible. In fact, the World of WarCraft: The Roleplaying Game version of Reincarnate specifically forces the resurrected individual to roll a die to determine what new race they are, as the spell does not resurrect the person into the same body.

Felsworn are another example, these are formerly mortal races that gradually morph into demons.

Consider the original death knights, as well. They were orcs, but their spirits were placed in unliving human bodies.

Banshees replace the soul of the targeted body, assuming its body regardless of what race they used to be and what race the target is.

Dragons and demons regularly masquerade as other races.

Polymorph changes you into another creature, and it is stated according to Polymorphic Rules and Regulations that the transformation is not limited to critters, only highly suggested.

Pretty sure there's a specific example of a race swap in game quests, too.

Sullee Swiftspeech wrote:Seeing there are mortals hiding in the Twisting Nether nowadays, building great mansions in the place, I don't see the RP-'ethical' problem with this.

It was not built by us, it was found.

It is basically something like this, except a house instead of a ship, and enshrouded by wards and shields like these, except weaker and less sophisticated. There was also a bit of this going on. All we did was uphold the wards. This is perfectly within the boundaries of the WarCraft universe.

And frankly, Fyrrel made it (on the OOC level), we just RP'ed in it, so if you don't like it you can blame him.

Drustai wrote:It's perfectly possible. In fact, the World of WarCraft: The Roleplaying Game version of Reincarnate specifically forces the resurrected individual to roll a die to determine what new race they are, as the spell does not resurrect the person into the same body.

Felsworn are another example, these are formerly mortal races that gradually morph into demons.

Consider the original death knights, as well. They were orcs, but their spirits were placed in unliving human bodies.

Banshees replace the soul of the targeted body, assuming its body regardless of what race they used to be and what race the target is.

Dragons and demons regularly masquerade as other races.

Polymorph changes you into another creature, and it is stated according to Polymorphic Rules and Regulations that the transformation is not limited to critters, only highly suggested.

Pretty sure there's a specific example of a race swap in game quests, too.

Tho one should keep in mind that any commoner can't just change race every two weeks. The listed things here are still rare/bit over the top. Not random generic bread seller or barkeep from Stormwind!

....And why would that be a reason to not play the exceptional?

Stormwind is full of drab, boring commoners. The characters we choose to bring to life are the exception to the rule, they are the people that do extra-ordinary things and lead extra-ordinary lives!

After all, why else would their stories be worth telling?

Faralan wrote:

Drustai wrote:It's perfectly possible. In fact, the World of WarCraft: The Roleplaying Game version of Reincarnate specifically forces the resurrected individual to roll a die to determine what new race they are, as the spell does not resurrect the person into the same body.

Felsworn are another example, these are formerly mortal races that gradually morph into demons.

Consider the original death knights, as well. They were orcs, but their spirits were placed in unliving human bodies.

Banshees replace the soul of the targeted body, assuming its body regardless of what race they used to be and what race the target is.

Dragons and demons regularly masquerade as other races.

Polymorph changes you into another creature, and it is stated according to Polymorphic Rules and Regulations that the transformation is not limited to critters, only highly suggested.

Pretty sure there's a specific example of a race swap in game quests, too.

Tho one should keep in mind that any commoner can't just change race every two weeks. The listed things here are still rare/bit over the top. Not random generic bread seller or barkeep from Stormwind!

Yes, exactly. As with all things, there is nothing wrong with the possibility. It's how you use it. An IC race change should never be a light or easy thing to do. It'd require powerful magic well beyond most people.

Sure ... why not. Maybe he went into a lab and got shot with a shrink ray (that weird gnomish "World Enlarger" one) and now the effect is stuck . Race change is VERY much a part of in game wow lore: the Halloween wands. They're not permanent yes, but it's still possible so I see no reason why you shouldn't do it

Drustai wrote:

Faralan wrote:

Drustai wrote:It's perfectly possible. In fact, the World of WarCraft: The Roleplaying Game version of Reincarnate specifically forces the resurrected individual to roll a die to determine what new race they are, as the spell does not resurrect the person into the same body.

Felsworn are another example, these are formerly mortal races that gradually morph into demons.

Consider the original death knights, as well. They were orcs, but their spirits were placed in unliving human bodies.

Banshees replace the soul of the targeted body, assuming its body regardless of what race they used to be and what race the target is.

Dragons and demons regularly masquerade as other races.

Polymorph changes you into another creature, and it is stated according to Polymorphic Rules and Regulations that the transformation is not limited to critters, only highly suggested.

Pretty sure there's a specific example of a race swap in game quests, too.

Tho one should keep in mind that any commoner can't just change race every two weeks. The listed things here are still rare/bit over the top. Not random generic bread seller or barkeep from Stormwind!

Yes, exactly. As with all things, there is nothing wrong with the possibility. It's how you use it. An IC race change should never be a light or easy thing to do. It'd require powerful magic well beyond most people.

Exactly my thoughts. But I also agree it's possible, not just easy and lightly taken.


And Deli. Stormwind has enough heroes and epical people as it is, the commoner is needed, to be fair. :p And if a commoner do race change, I'd expect a proper reason, and a long plot. Not just "I fell into a pot and now I'm a froginator".

Faralan wrote:And Deli. Stormwind has enough heroes and epical people as it is, the commoner is needed, to be fair. :p And if a commoner do race change, I'd expect a proper reason, and a long plot. Not just "I fell into a pot and now I'm a froginator".

One doesn't have to be epic to be exceptional. Nobudy plays a commoner because their stories are not worth telling, and the "commoners" that are being played by people are made uncommon by the adventures they go through and the exceptional characters they run in to. If everyone would play a grocery-store workers and street sweepers, Stormwind would be a pretty boring place

Delidah wrote:

Faralan wrote:And Deli. Stormwind has enough heroes and epical people as it is, the commoner is needed, to be fair. :p And if a commoner do race change, I'd expect a proper reason, and a long plot. Not just "I fell into a pot and now I'm a froginator".

One doesn't have to be epic to be exceptional. Nobudy plays a commoner because their stories are not worth telling, and the "commoners" that are being played by people are made uncommon by the adventures they go through and the exceptional characters they run in to. If everyone would play a grocery-store workers and street sweepers, Stormwind would be a pretty boring place

I wouldn't mind a grocery-store worker tho. Then I could go buy myself some food! D:

Plenty of people play commoners, Deli. And it's quite a lot of fun. In fact I hate when my commoner runs into super epic stuff, because it's so completely out of her realm of understanding that's there's nothing she can really do to participate. It's part of the reason I left Dreadhowl for Cartel on Saphra. While I loved Dreadhowl's many awesome events, they were much too epic for my character.

Commoners don't have to be boring.

Drustai wrote:Plenty of people play commoners, Deli. And it's quite a lot of fun. In fact I hate when my commoner runs into super epic stuff, because it's so completely out of her realm of understanding that's there's nothing she can really do to participate. It's part of the reason I left Dreadhowl for Cartel on Saphra. While I loved Dreadhowl's many awesome events, they were much too epic for my character.

Commoners don't have to be boring.

It is all swings and round-abouts really, Jarric would be totally out of his depth in magical stuff and he is hardly a commoner. Most Epic Jarric has ever done is chair an inquiry (which is something most magi will never do ).

hmm indeed not many people know but monny began as a simple cleaner for the exodar commune areas.. she has evolved now but was fun at the time

She was never a "simple" cleaning lady. "simple" cleaning ladies don't have a complicated amnesiac background story, and don't end up as the apprentice of one of the most important religious figures in Defias storylines.

Then again, no Draenei alive today is quite ordinary, now are they?

thats true

Hey Fraiduun is normal!!!

I did once joke that when I racechanged Grayden to Cyndryn I said that he was meandering in Booty Bay one day when the Goblin engineer by the teleporter paid him a lot of money to test out his new teleportation device to teleport him to Winterspring and back; at the same time Cyndryn was investigating the teleporter out of curiosity and accidentally tripped the switch. Their consciousnesses were swapped and Grayden awoke in a Night Elven body, and Cyndryn woke up in a human body... ;P

Of course I didn't actually roleplay that out, but I'd rather start fresh if I racechanged a character, especially from Alliance to Horde; otherwise it's inevitable you will hold no loyalty to your new faction and it'll probably drive you mad.

... Then again, you might want that to happen!

I think we have enough crazy people thank you very much.

Again, exceptional does not institute instant craziness.

Drustai's list of linked examples seems petty much to nail it down.

It's pretty much what I've done with one or two characters. 3 of my goblins aren't goblins but are robots. And I had (briefly) a character who was more or less just an ooze.

If you can do it and have fun? Cool! I think this could lead to some cool RP too.

It's very much the kind of strange shit that Grufftoof would give a big Trollish thumbs up to. Then try and cut you open to see why it worked. Or didn't work.

No

I know a Forsaken who was a Goblin for a while through magic or something.

You live in a world full of magical accidents. Anything can happen. Hell, if you can turn someone into a penguin, you can make them a gnome permanently by accident.