Public Inquiry

(posters planted about the city)

Public Inquiry into the events that led to a Citizen Burned in the cathedral Square

Citizens of Stormwind, Minister of Interior Affairs, Earl Jarric Valdmoore Tarlwynn Buckholme, Lord of Buckholme, Invites you to attend an Inquiry to the sad events that led to an execution in such a holy area of the city. The Inquiry will be looking into the following areas.

1. The Legality of such summery executions and if they were outside of the approved and lawful conduct of the Kings guards.
   
   
2. Possable failings in the Justice system in the implimentation of guidance from Stormwind's Council
   
   
3. The process that led to such a burning occuring in such an area of the city.

Finally the Panel shall agree to a list of suggestions to handle future occurances.

It shall be in Westfall Garrison on Thursday the 5th of January. Assemble at 21-00. Kings Honour

Le bump! I demand comment

I'll comment:

GRMBL!

Cheese...............that is all.

We had no part in this at all (I'm as surprised as you are) but would you like an Anethionean presence there or not?

It is open for everyone! I want everyone to be there! Think of it as a trial... but with less hanging and more politics...Plus Jarric will be there!

I hope this will be well attended!

I shall come watch Samian be roasted.

Alright I'll throw it up onto the calendar.

Good you will know the procedure Helmy for when it is your turn.

I'm on a train all day so I'm going to have to miss this event. Hopefully it will all go well and I look forward to hearing what happened later.

Thanks for all who came Poor Samian had a powercut but dont worry, there will be a private session just for him

Likely not the next SW council but the one after the report will be published.

politics at its best,

a lot of showboating and ego boosting, all revolving around nothing.

loved it.

Nothing changes and We all get to put in large expenses paid for by the tax payer. Best of all with Aleric dead we can "burry" it all with him and anyone who questions it can be shouted down as unfeeling and cold

All in all a triumph!

tbh I'm getting a bit sick and tired of this, not because of the subject but because of the accusations thrown about:
-Endless whine about people not getting their trial (We cant trial everyone that does something bad, infact only in the last 5-6 months did trials actively started getting used again)
-Braidens Magistrate system has 1(!) magistrate. I've already pointed out ICly that the kingdom lacks magistrates. (I've pointed that out about 394309349345 times)
-Calling amnesty international, we do not live in 2012. We live in THE WORLD OF WARcraft yet apparently people can somehow motivate their characters to go on about screaming and death for weeks.

I'm tired of all these OOC motivations involving my roleplay to a DRASTIC extend. This better go somewhere.

The way it has turned is also my fault due to my bloody powercut last night, I do apologise.

I agree with you Samian. There needs to be a higher involvement of Magistrate role-play if we're going to role-play the need for fair trial.

I think there have been a few people interested in the Magistrate role, which is great, but a possible idea could be to discuss which crimes require a trial event, and which do not.

Perhaps something to discuss at the next council meeting?

Shoved two new potential magistrates Braidens way. With luck we'll get the manpower issue sorted before the tribunals report is published.

Its besides the point. Guards have more things then you can imagine on their hands already, you need to put some blind faith in them both ICly and OOCly or stuff the command center with all your magistrates so we can focus on just bringing in crooks while whoever deals with the punishments.

It will be in the report ic and can be discussed ooc too. As the Law has three standards of crime I would suggest the lowest ones are handled by the guards alone, the medium ones by the guards with some appeal process and the serious ones by trial. It totally needs more magistrates too.

OOC from my time as a guard I have a few house keeping ideas for the law, make it clearer.

IC and OOC I agree that C 20th law and rights is too far yet even in the bad old days their was the idea of trial and judgement. Magistrate is a roman position first.

Jarric has no problems with criminals being hanged, but he wants it done via trial.

I applied to be a Magistrate - yay!

Samian wrote:Its besides the point. Guards have more things then you can imagine on their hands already, you need to put some blind faith in them both ICly and OOCly or stuff the command center with all your magistrates so we can focus on just bringing in crooks while whoever deals with the punishments.

Frankly I agree with this, but it is going to take some discussion and reworking, and figuring out how people actually want the law system to work. But uh, yeah, it's pretty dull RP for guards if all they get to do is walk around the city, and while high-profile crimes make for good trials, robbery and such make for boring ones. Some of it's about 'fairness' yes, but some of it is also about what makes good RP.

Lexgrad wrote:It will be in the report ic and can be discussed ooc too. As the Law has three standards of crime I would suggest the lowest ones are handled by the guards alone, the medium ones by the guards with some appeal process and the serious ones by trial. It totally needs more magistrates too.

OOC from my time as a guard I have a few house keeping ideas for the law, make it clearer.

IC and OOC I agree that C 20th law and rights is too far yet even in the bad old days their was the idea of trial and judgement. Magistrate is a roman position first.

Jarric has no problems with criminals being hanged, but he wants it done via trial.

In a perfect world we'd get all the serious crooks up for trial but it is VERY VERY VERY unrealistic. And takes a TON of effort from the guard's end, all of this is quite frankly an unfair subject to be dealt with in character yet I'm getting endless heaps of shit flung my way for it.

Managing punishment is enough effort as it is and we NEVER EVER execute without the person we are dealing with agree's with it OOCly

Also Velspeth:
Annie:

Wait... I want a flower!

Trials weren't set as mandatory for a reason. I went for months with the system up without anyone requesting a trial but now all of a sudden there's an overload of requests. I really don't mind there being a lot of trials but you'll just have to settle with less, as in a Magistrate drops by the command centre and settles bushiness without public trial in low profile cases.

Velspeth wrote:I applied to be a Magistrate - yay!

Oh my... Velspeth is gonna be a magistrate, surely that means she will be the first magistrate that is actually... fair?