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Post by Fortesgue Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:34 pm

Keep it up, i thoroughly enjoy reading your work.
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Post by Silferdrake Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:04 pm

I love the enthusiasm I've seen from you readers as of late, really makes me want to make more of these. Very Happy

We continue on our journey through the past:

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In Warcraft 2, the horde weren't the semi-reasonable chaotic neutral guys they are today, but instead more like the Tolkien orcs, or in the words of Geroge Thorogood - Bad to the Bone. Which makes the Alterac Uprising extremely hard to justify in any way. The point of these strips is to humanize those who made the pact with the horde, without justifying the act itself. With luck, I have succeeded to some extent, at least.
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Post by Timna Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:04 pm

First!

Awesome! Do want more Very Happy
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:10 pm

Second!

Enjoyable little tidbits

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Post by Lexgrad Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:44 pm

Third!
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Post by Drustai Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:54 am

Silferdrake wrote:In Warcraft 2, the horde weren't the semi-reasonable chaotic neutral guys they are today, but instead more like the Tolkien orcs, or in the words of Geroge Thorogood - Bad to the Bone. Which makes the Alterac Uprising extremely hard to justify in any way. The point of these strips is to humanize those who made the pact with the horde, without justifying the act itself. With luck, I have succeeded to some extent, at least.

Eh? It was rather justifiable IMO. The orcs were more or less pure evil and relatively unstoppable. Alterac was the weakest human nation. They helped the Horde because they were afraid the Horde would win and believed they'd be wiped out if they resisted.

That's justifiable enough to me. It was still betrayal, but betrayal motivated out of fear and Perenolde's desire to save his kingdom from destruction.

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Post by Astraea Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:48 am

I approve of it all!
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Post by Silferdrake Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:28 am

Drustai wrote:
Silferdrake wrote:In Warcraft 2, the horde weren't the semi-reasonable chaotic neutral guys they are today, but instead more like the Tolkien orcs, or in the words of Geroge Thorogood - Bad to the Bone. Which makes the Alterac Uprising extremely hard to justify in any way. The point of these strips is to humanize those who made the pact with the horde, without justifying the act itself. With luck, I have succeeded to some extent, at least.

Eh? It was rather justifiable IMO. The orcs were more or less pure evil and relatively unstoppable. Alterac was the weakest human nation. They helped the Horde because they were afraid the Horde would win and believed they'd be wiped out if they resisted.

That's justifiable enough to me. It was still betrayal, but betrayal motivated out of fear and Perenolde's desire to save his kingdom from destruction.


Perenolde started to help the horde long before things went south for the Alliance. He gave Doomhammer information about the High Elven movements even before the war had truly started (Of course, Warcraft 2 was a long time ago, things might have been retconned), I always viewed him as quite evil, in beyond the dark portal he more or less gives the Book of Mediev to the Horde (which ranks slightly above the Necronomicon on the danger scale) for the lolz. Every action we see him take is quite evil, and his backstory lets us know that he has ambitions to take the crown of Lordaeron for himself.

Of course, he didn't want to see Alterac burned to the ground by the horde, which (the way I chose to picture it) is how he swayed the other nobles and the people of Alterac to allow the Horde to pass through unhindered. The way I see it most of them didn't know about the other things (giving the Horde vital information, sending pirates to assassinate Uther Lighbringer, the Tyrs Hand uprising, Meatloaf thursday etc).

Though that is, of course, only my interpretation of it.
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Post by Drustai Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:05 am

Silferdrake wrote:
Drustai wrote:
Silferdrake wrote:In Warcraft 2, the horde weren't the semi-reasonable chaotic neutral guys they are today, but instead more like the Tolkien orcs, or in the words of Geroge Thorogood - Bad to the Bone. Which makes the Alterac Uprising extremely hard to justify in any way. The point of these strips is to humanize those who made the pact with the horde, without justifying the act itself. With luck, I have succeeded to some extent, at least.

Eh? It was rather justifiable IMO. The orcs were more or less pure evil and relatively unstoppable. Alterac was the weakest human nation. They helped the Horde because they were afraid the Horde would win and believed they'd be wiped out if they resisted.

That's justifiable enough to me. It was still betrayal, but betrayal motivated out of fear and Perenolde's desire to save his kingdom from destruction.


Perenolde started to help the horde long before things went south for the Alliance. He gave Doomhammer information about the High Elven movements even before the war had truly started (Of course, Warcraft 2 was a long time ago, things might have been retconned), I always viewed him as quite evil, in beyond the dark portal he more or less gives the Book of Mediev to the Horde (which ranks slightly above the Necronomicon on the danger scale) for the lolz. Every action we see him take is quite evil, and his backstory lets us know that he has ambitions to take the crown of Lordaeron for himself.

Then that's a (silly) retcon from the novels. The manual for WCII specifically describes what I just said.

"Alterac is the weakest of the human nations and is only a minor contributor of troops and equipment to the Alliance. Although Lord Perenolde praises Lothar and Terenas for their ongoing efforts, he is beset by the fear that when the Horde comes, the Alliance will fail, and only the surrender of his forces and his sovereignty will save the lives of his subjects. Perenolde alone knows whether or not--when the final call to arms is sounded--Alterac will fight for its freedom alongside the other nations of the Alliance." - WarCraft II Manual

As you can see from that, it casts Alterac and Perenolde in a sympathetic light. He definitely was not gunning for the crown originally... he was in fact willing to give up his own power to see his people saved. That's the Alterac and Perenolde I prefer to remember. They only vilified him later because apparently you can't have sympathetic, good-hearted traitors. *sigh*


Also, this was the start of the Second War. Not the first. The Alliance banded together because of the fact that the Horde completely decimated Stormwind with great ease. It was very clear, even before the Second War started, that the orcs were a nigh-unstoppable opponent. That's the primary reason the Alliance was formed--even Gilneas saw it as a big enough threat to join, despite their staunch independence. So there's definitely reason for the weakest nation to have greatly feared the Horde despite the war not having started yet.
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Post by Silferdrake Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:43 am

True, Blizzard is the boss when it comes to retconning. It's really rather hard to know what's cannon and what isn't when it comes to Warcraft.

I try to stay away from bigger lore-events in the comic to avoid messing things up, but when I deal with them I do not take them very seriously, though I can admit that "...extremely hard to justify in any way." was perhaps a bit harsh.
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Post by Amaryl Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:15 pm

Well, there's always the number one rule when dealing with canon and imagined characters.

"Perspective"

the way your char viewed events doesnt mean other characters don't have a different interpretation on the same events Wink

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Post by Krogon Devilstep Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:07 am

Oh gods i love these comics.

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Post by Lexgrad Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:11 am

I thought I missed one again :p
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Post by Ishap/Virock Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:53 am

Just read them, I liked them, especially the Kathless ones, only RP'd with him once but that's exactly how he came across
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Post by Silferdrake Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:33 pm

You have no idea how much I appreciate your comments and approval. I started this as something to do on my downtime almost a year ago, figured I'd do about 10 or so to amuse the people in my guild, but due to you guys I am now fast approaching 50. Truly, thank you all alot Smile.

Now, did someone order a double length comic?

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Sometimes you have to gamble, and sometimes you lose. This one took quite some time to make with heraldry to the Alteracian nobles and stuff like that. The two men in the last panel are, in case you are wondering, Lord Lothar and Uther Lightbringer, having just broken the Siege of Lordearon.


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Post by Guest Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:34 pm

First

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Post by Rmuffn Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:35 pm

Second
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:37 pm

Now that I've actually read it, I think you've done/are doing a good job of showing the reader why they supported the decision. Moar

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Post by Timna Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:38 pm

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Post by Lexgrad Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:18 pm

Noooo
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Post by Timna Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:21 pm

Also, you typo'd Lordaeron, Silfer!
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Post by Silferdrake Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:26 pm

Timna wrote:Also, you typo'd Lordaeron, Silfer!

That wacky Lord Lothar... He can't speak very well Wink. Fixed.
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Post by Morty Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:07 pm

As always you deliver quality, Silfer. Smile Well done.
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Post by Krogon Devilstep Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:12 pm

Gnnnh, do love these more and more. keep them rolling out! nice to see someone showing the other side of the alterac coin.
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Post by Morgaan Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:16 pm

I love them Steven keep them up ^_^ This last one was great.
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