Re: Path of Conquest: Chapter III [Concluded]

by **Máire** Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:04 pm

Jevanni: Haha, I almost killed Drustai
Shae: Why didn't you?

Cool

by **Drustai** Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:57 pm

Kristeas Sunbinder wrote:Atleast you got killed in battle and not ganked during the interogation drustai

Actually I did, once or twice.

by **Kristeas Sunbinder** Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:02 pm

By deathwing?

by **Drustai** Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:21 pm

Kristeas Sunbinder wrote:By deathwing?

A Worgen DK.

by **Lexgrad** Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:41 pm

Worgen suck!

Also Fen liked Drustai XD

by **Drustai** Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:56 pm

Dreth wrote:Worgen suck!

Also Fen liked Drustai XD

Fen was Dru's only friend.

<3

by **Lexgrad** Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:48 am

There is one thing I want to draw attention to, And They did not ask me to... The Blades for Hire. Last night I rped as broker between the Alliance military and the mercs, we haggled price before ic getting it done. It was good RP, I t normally is with the Blades. There can be no doubt that they would be awesome to have in any camp/war based rp.

When I heard how they where treated by the leadership of both the horde and the alliance it made me angry. I wonder if it is beyond the wit of the alliance leaders to have rotated them in and out of the battle. They where going to give you a week of 20 plus rpers and pvpers to the war yet they chose to treat them like dirt. Is WPvP is a club now that not all are in, or was it just piss poor leadership?

I publicly want the Blades to know that for the small part I played in getting them involved in this and wasting their time I am sorry.

by **Kozgugore Feraleye** Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:35 am

I'm not sure if this is relevant, as I'm not entirely sure what the problem regarding these Blades for Hire might be (I wasn't present tonight myself). If it's about what I believe it to be about though (the particular guild being put on the sideline of the battle), here's a quote from the original thread:

Gnash wrote:I’m tempted. Where do I sign-up?
Interested guilds are encouraged to contact Gnash. This will not insure you will be invited, however. Since we'll try to balance both sides, we might have to turn some down. Secondly, we strongly feel that your presence should be plausible In Characterly.

I'm not sure whether or not they did contact any of the leaders or not, though in the past battles, people from either faction were put aside in the event of too many participating players. Once again, I might be totally missing the point here, but whatever may have happened, I'm sure there may be a reason as to the way things happened as they did.

by **Geneviève** Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:45 am

I played an equally small part in the Blades involvement and for the same reason. The IC and OOC request of the Alliance guilds involved in the campaign.

I guess we were lucky Tarv wasn't on this evening (To make the call IC to deploy) because if he was the Seal/Blade battalion would have rocked up to the battle with over 50 RPers.

I understand the numbers balance is a tricky thing and Gnash, as the Horde organiser isn't to blame for the disorganised nature of the Alliance. But after the Blades went to all the trouble to get there, cancelling a week of their own RP events, something might have been done to accomodate them.

As I understand it they were sent home. :S

by Guest Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:50 am

If the Alliance is hiring mercenaries all the way from Stormwind doesn't that mean the Alliance armies are doing really bad?

by **Geneviève** Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:06 am

Perturbo wrote:If the Alliance is hiring mercenaries all the way from Stormwind doesn't that mean the Alliance armies are doing really bad?

Considering the begging and guilt tripping that went on to convince us to help I'd say yes!

by **Mandui** Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:20 am

Geneviève wrote:But after the Blades went to all the trouble to get there, cancelling a week of their own RP events, something might have been done to accomodate them.

As I understand it they were sent home. :S

As far as I understood, people were asked about wanting to sit out/take turns in tonight's PvP battle (stressing: tonight's battle, not the entire week's events) so the numbers are equal. That barely affects the RP itself in any way (or at least shouldn't), since the reasons for this is a purely OOC one. Those sitting out or taking turns in the battle waves could easily RP along with the rest during/after the battle itself. I also don't remember anyone forcing anyone out or sending anyone home. Like I said, the question was formulated in raid chat. It would make little sense for any of the organizers to target and exclude a specific guild in order to balance the numbers.

At any rate, it was an enjoyable battle as far as I'm concerned....though, like stated 89467876348 times before, fuck the rules and just PvP. But oh well.

by **Geneviève** Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:29 am

Well that was the impression I was given from one of their Officers.

Mandui wrote:

At any rate, it was an enjoyable battle as far as I'm concerned....though, like stated 89467876348 times before, fuck the rules and just PvP. But oh well.

I must have made at least half of those statements. Doing so with such annoying frequency I derailed the thread! *blushes* Wink

by **Kittrina** Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:31 am

Mandui wrote:
Geneviève wrote:But after the Blades went to all the trouble to get there, cancelling a week of their own RP events, something might have been done to accomodate them.

As I understand it they were sent home. :S
As far as I understood, people were asked about wanting to sit out/take turns in tonight's PvP battle (stressing: tonight's battle, not the entire week's events) so the numbers are equal. That barely affects the RP itself in any way (or at least shouldn't), since the reasons for this is a purely OOC one. Those sitting out or taking turns in the battle waves could easily RP along with the rest during/after the battle itself. I also don't remember anyone forcing anyone out or sending anyone home. Like I said, the question was formulated in raid chat. It would make little sense for any of the organizers to target and exclude a specific guild in order to balance the numbers.

At any rate, it was an enjoyable battle as far as I'm concerned....though, like stated 89467876348 times before, fuck the rules and just PvP. But oh well.

So far as I understood the impression given was that we weren't welcome due to a communication problem; people not being told we'd been drafted in, which in turn threw numbers off. It's regrettable and a little frustrating, but mistakes happen. The reason we just went home was that we were (to my knowledge; I wasn't there but was on skype chatting at the time to those that were, who told me events as they unfolded) told to sit at camp and effectively do nothing. That may have been intended to be just for that single fight but it came across more as; we were neither wanted or expected, and were just told to sit it out.

It's a shame we couldn't be part of it, but hopefully the organisers can also understand people being upset/aggravated after we rearranged and put on hold monthly events and other plans to come along for this only to find the message hasn't been passed along and we weren't expected/welcome.

by **Shaelyssa** Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:03 am

I didn't understand why the mercenaries or whatever just left ... they could have stayed and role-played even if they didn't PvP tonight.

by **Kil'drakor** Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:32 am

I'm not bothering to quote people the past couple of pages. I'll just give my view on the matter.

I was told about the Blades for Hire wanting a slice of the cake after the last Stonetalon Mountains battle. When I found out they usually bring about ten or more people to role-playing events, I was reluctant but cut a deal with Jomir. Blades for Hire were welcome to attend as gap fillers, not full partners in this campaign. Why you ask? Firstly it's mainly the balance that is an issue, as we were pretty close in terms of numbers up until then. Secondly, I did not think it was fair that half the raid has to sit out because Blades for Hire want to compete. Quite frankly, in my opinion you are late and the other guilds simply have more right to be there as they've been role-playing with the Horde for the past couple of weeks.

When I found out somebody - whoever - just went behind my back and had rallied them in an In Character manner without consent, I simply put my foot down as per agreement. That some people got butt-hurt because of that -- well, that's not my problem and I intend to not let it become my problem.

In short: Blades for Hire may only deliver some people to fight if the Alliance is outnumbered, and that's the condition under which Blades for Hire can be a part of this campaign.

by **Geneviève** Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:50 am

I blame Valestrion and the harlot Shariah! *starts stockpiling torches and pitchforks on a goblin alt*

by **Melnerag** Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:10 am

Oh, and considering this campaign draws so many people away. Will it be possible to for Gnash to post battle-days (not per se times) in this thread? Because right now I can't organize an event without learning that it is a battle-day Very Happy

by **Kristeas Sunbinder** Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:18 am

https://defiasrp.forumotion.net/t3334p15-path-of-conquest-kalimdor

Since we've started gauging interest for this, I found it to be time to lay down a draft for dates on which the battles will be held. After talking to both Kozgugore, Girloy and Ildranor, I've come up with an (in my eyes) reasonable planning. Feel free to give your thoughts.

Barrens
25/07 - 1st battle [mon]
27/07 - 2nd battle [wed]
29/07 - 3rd battle [fri]
31/07 - 4th battle [sun]

2 days of no PvP (1st & 2th)

Stonetalon Mountains
03/08 - 1st battle [wed]
05/08 - 2nd battle [fri]
07/08 - 3rd battle [sun]
08/08 - 4th battle [mon]

3 days of no PvP (9th - 11th)

Ashenvale
12/08 - 1st battle [fri]
14/08 - 2nd battle [sun]
15/08 - 3rd battle [mon]
17/08 - 4th battle [wed]

On a side note: Girloy and Ildranor of the Three Hammers have volunteered to coordinate the campaign on the Alliance side. Everyone is still encouraged to contact me if you have any questions, however. You can add me on gnash.the.younger@gmail.com or whisper me in-game. Communication is key! Wink

by **Melnerag** Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:22 am

Thank you, Krist! You've saved many from embarassing moments!

by **Kristeas Sunbinder** Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:28 am

Exaythe wrote: You've saved many from embarassing moments!

Damn ._.

by **Karlak** Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:04 am

I was told to bring as many Blades as possible, that the war effort was flagging for the alliance and we were desperately needed. So I rallied the entire guild to war, OOC'ly I was never told that we were there for balancing numbers or that the horde were outnumbered. We never asked "for a slice" of the W-PvP we were invited, so do not make us sound like some begging desperate children running to you for RP.

Gnash wrote:
That some people got butt-hurt because of that -- well, that's not my problem and I intend to not let it become my problem.

Some people got butt-hurt? Show some respect, 24 people cancelled their plans or made arrangements to turn up to this RP event, to disregard them like is outright rude.

Gnash wrote:
In short: Blades for Hire may only deliver some people to fight if the Alliance is outnumbered, and that's the condition under which Blades for Hire can be a part of this campaign.

This is the part that would have been nice to find out before we were hired IC'ly or OOC'ly. Nice organisation.

The reason we left is because we were ALL asked to sit on the side lines and do nothing. We could have been asked to send scouts around the barrens in non PvP RP, we could have had one or two of ours included. But to be commanded that we ALL sit out is unfair.

And the reason I was told: The horde leader is upset, didn't know the Blades were coming and won't bring the Horde to PvP at all if the Blades were involved.

by **Morinth** Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:10 am

I don't think it was Gnash's organisation that messed up, rather the person who went out and brought a small army with them. So I'd take it up with them.

by **Karlak** Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:12 am

Morinth wrote:I don't think it was Gnash's organisation that messed up, rather the person who went out and brought a small army with them. So I'd take it up with them.

And last night I had no problem with Gnash, only the alliance organisers for not passing on messages and explaining things properly.

But Gnash's message on here is bit disrespectful, at last that's how it read to me.

by **Kil'drakor** Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:13 am

Somebody Else's Problem Field activitated.

I make you sound like a child? You're doing that yourself just fine. It's not my job to keep you entertained, so take it up with whoever invited you.

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