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Post by Guest Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:39 pm

Let us know if there's anything we can do on the horde side, short of sending strongly worded letters ^_^

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Post by Seranita Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:42 pm

send many strong worded letters mabie even a gm ticket about there behaviour disgracing all pvp guilds horde side etc
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Post by Guest Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:48 pm

I think the GMs will only consider tickets by the actual victims, sadly :/

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Post by Seranita Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:51 pm

sucks
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Post by Cathee Norris Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:51 pm

Doubtful. They'll go on their usual "It's a pvp realm, sry m8s".
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Post by Seranita Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:53 pm

worth a try I put up a ticket anyways
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Post by Dardric/Vaedric Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:56 pm

I put up a ticket aswell.. not that it will do anything
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Post by Morinth Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:17 pm

They annoy RP'ers on Horde side too. I've wrote an elaborate ticket myself, as a Horde side player, but it will most likely be ignored. Still, I hate to see people destroy our RP hubs! They give us Hordelings a bad name. Worth a shot.
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Post by Geneviève Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:33 am

The "It's a PvP realm" defense has been proven before by a GM on my old realm to be obsolete when faced with the anti harassment policy. PvP ceases to be PvP when it (paraquoted)

"Disrupts player sponsored events or gatherings."

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This category includes language and/or actions intended to disturb groups of players or areas of the world, such as:

  • Disruption of player sponsored events or gatherings





That not only applies on RP-PvP realms but pure PvP realms as well. In my case they were warned (so one of them tells me) that if they did not take their PvP elsewhere they would face Blizzard action. They called Blizzards bluff a few nights later and recieved suspensions.
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Post by Seranita Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:20 am

ahh thank you for thiss i can use this for quoting
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Post by Guest Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:24 am

Should be posted in their recruitment thread.

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Post by Geldar Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:35 am

Geneviève wrote:The "It's a PvP realm" defense has been proven before by a GM on my old realm to be obsolete when faced with the anti harassment policy. PvP ceases to be PvP when it (paraquoted)

"Disrupts player sponsored events or gatherings."

In accordance with

Zone/Area Disruption


This category includes language and/or actions intended to disturb groups of players or areas of the world, such as:

  • Disruption of player sponsored events or gatherings





That not only applies on RP-PvP realms but pure PvP realms as well. In my case they were warned (so one of them tells me) that if they did not take their PvP elsewhere they would face Blizzard action. They called Blizzards bluff a few nights later and recieved suspensions.

This is countered by this from the PvP policies:

Opposing Faction

This category covers PvP combat between members of the Horde and the Alliance.

* The Ongoing Harassment policy does not apply on the PvP server when there is a PvP resolution available. Characters have the ability to deal with their conflicts through combat and Game Masters will only involve themselves in extreme circumstances.
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Post by Mandui Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:36 am

Geldar beat me to it. What Gene posted refers to the harassment which is usually received by the same faction.
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Post by Seranita Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:39 am

still used it in the gm's wishy washy responce Razz
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Post by Geldar Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:44 am

Best way to deal with them as I said, and I quote "The Punisher" specifically for this:

In certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment.

Fight the good fight, that is whats needed. Blizzard won't help, so the 'law' is not on our side, what needs to be done, needs to be done without that 'law' and that means fighting back, and fighting back hard.
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Post by Seranita Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:55 am

ok some good news... thow you are right they cannot get them for pvp the gem will look into it ie to there rudness which when they do there ganking..with reguards to there sexual refrencies

I myself have been teabaged twice and rear ended by a druid...
soo htats how we will get em.. fight em with true harasment policy *cackles*
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Post by Rmuffn Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:46 am

Opposing Faction

This category covers PvP combat between members of the Horde and the Alliance.

* The Ongoing Harassment policy does not apply on the PvP server when there is a PvP resolution available. Characters have the ability to deal with their conflicts through combat and Game Masters will only involve themselves in extreme circumstances..

So not impossible to happen nonetheless. But it's cute that you approve of the Shadow of Nine ganking rpers. Smile
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Post by Seranita Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:48 am

what we need is to do en mass tickets about them... I have done my bit on thet.. just need others to join in... mabie ome hordies do so too just to make the message hit home that son are bad
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Post by Guest Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:23 am

Faylum has told me that they will focus on r'ers and rp hubs. No matter what bullsh*t he feeds you when you speak to him, this is what he has declared he will do.

I believed him originally when they moved here and he said he wanted a fresh start, Wpvp and not to get the rp community against him. I even let him see the postings on this forum against him the once, just so he could see what was being said and counteract it with the guild actions (e.g. they were perceived as people who destroy rp, so he could make sure his guild didn't do that) and try and work with you guys.

However when I suggested they stop targeting Duskwood because it made them look weak, he tore into me in gchat and then via the guild forum and then gkicked me (was ok, I was leaving anyway - this isn't wpvp, it's cowardly ganking en masse with no skills).

He also sent me a letter in game saying if I spoke out about him he would tell the rp community I was spying on them and giving him info (which I wasn't, the forum access for one short time was all I did). If he turns the rp community against me with his words, so be it, he can be persuasive as a few have testified when they believe he just wants to make world rp alive again.

He seemed a real nice, friendly guy. He isn't, he even slags off his main officer behind his back even though this guy runs it when he is offline - you need to watch your backs.

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Post by Rasonal Dranger Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:46 am

Faralan Thorgint wrote:
Opposing Faction

This category covers PvP combat between members of the Horde and the Alliance.

* The Ongoing Harassment policy does not apply on the PvP server when there is a PvP resolution available. Characters have the ability to deal with their conflicts through combat and Game Masters will only involve themselves in extreme circumstances..

So not impossible to happen nonetheless. But it's cute that you approve of the Shadow of Nine ganking rpers. Smile

^That, indeed.
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Post by Kil'drakor Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:17 am

I don't know why Geldar is quoting the Punisher. Firstly, there is no law, only a policy. Secondly, the Punisher sucks.

A policy is flexible. Just keep writing tickets that favor your case and eventually Blizzard will have to step in.

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:32 am

Let's see if we can get their "server event" buried under a ton of dislikes.

Go go!

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1951295885

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Post by Muzjhath Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:57 am

Not sure if this would work, I am very sure no one who uses game cards could do it.
But a big way to do a mass report for everyone with not preepayed subscriptions would be to cancel the accounts on the basis of harrassment in the form of targeted pvp with the aim to grief along with verbal harrassment which ruins the game experience.
If 50-100, to more on the same day do cancel their accounts for this I do belive that it will be a lot more noticed than if a few tickets are written.
They care about their money cows, eventhose they seem to have abandoned.
Sure the accounts will be activated again when times run out, but they get enough cancelled subs with the same reason any buissness would look into it.

But I might just be babbling.
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Post by Jeanpierre Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:53 am

It's just sad in the case of SoN that they outnumber us 2 to 1 and keep at it for an hour. Bring in 1 to 1.5 odds and they go down like pissing away dust from a street gutter.

TBH, yesterday... They were 9-10. If we can't even muster more than 5 players to counter that.. Then the fail is on us. If that pisses you off, log in a BG and slam dunk some Orc heads till you can kill them with ease the next time. That's the mindset of a PvP server.
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Post by Geldar Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:01 am

Krunch wrote:I don't know why Geldar is quoting the Punisher. Firstly, there is no law, only a policy. Secondly, the Punisher sucks.

Because when the people who are supposed to be helping us can't or won't, we have to help ourselves because no one else will, and I find that quote fitting.

Secondly, the Punisher sucks.

Tough, its fitting so it works for me.
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