Definition of the word Concubine - Continuation from Realm Forum

[Cyaska]

con·cu·bine
1.a woman who cohabits with a man to whom she is not legally married, especially one regarded as socially or sexually subservient; mistress.

2.(among polygamous peoples) a secondary wife, usually of inferior rank.

3.(especially formerly in Muslim societies) a woman residing in a harem and kept, as by a sultan, for sexual purposes.

Jesus christ you guys, a whore is a whore no matter the fancy name.

Problem, Elloa?

[Magaskawee/Anaei]

I wouldn't really call a concubine a whore.

In Imperial Japan concubines were treated nearly as well as the Empress and their children were deemed completely legitimate. Infact the current Emperor's father; Emperor Hirohito was the son of an Emperor and his concubine.

Therefore no, a concubine is not another word for a whore. They can however be whores in their behavior. Many concubines do not chose to be so, they are chosen or made to by rank.

[Rmuffn]

GEISHA.

[Kristeas Sunbinder]

I read just the other day in a dutch magazine (Wetenschap in Beeld - Historie, wich I would assume got a bit of a fact check), that harems were not always about sex (since it was either lead by the wife or the mother of the sultan). And that in general they had the same tasks as a Geisha, lower ranking concubines even having a minimal of contact with the sultan.

[Nithel]

While this is a discussion about semantics and probably just you trolling. I believe the important difference between a whore and a concubine is that a concubine is generally more accepted into the household to the point where she is even invited to live with the man. The focus shifts a bit from a pure sexual point of view to also a social point of view. (Which even becomes more important than the first.)

For example many artists in the 19-20th century (painters, writers and musicians) had concubines. Women whom they offered housing and food in return of having a model, sexual favours and last but not least a partner for social events. They went to restaurants, parties and other social gatherings as a couple.

I'm not too sure about this one but I believe generally concubines don't have the same monetary situation as a harlot. Concubines weren't really paid but they received a better social status and their primary needs were fulfilled.

[Guest]

Oh no, I can't make arguments of my own.

Quick! To the online dictionaries!

[Geldar]

Oh lol, posting in a thrawling thread:

A concubine is generally a woman in an ongoing, matrimonial-like relationship with a man, whom she cannot marry for a specific reason. The reason may be because she is of lower social rank than the man (including slave status) or because the man is already married. Generally, only men of high economic and social status have concubines. Many historical rulers maintained concubines as well as wives.

Historically, concubinage was frequently voluntary (by the woman and/or her family's arrangement), as it provided a measure of economic security for the woman involved.

Under Roman law, Roman culture under the Empire came to tolerate concubinage so long as the relation was durable and exclusive; for the jurists concubinage was an honourable de facto situation. When having no legal status but being recognized, or defined in law, as in ancient China, concubinage is akin, although inferior, to marriage. The children of a concubine are recognized as legal offspring; their inheritance rights may be inferior to even younger children of a marriage, or they may receive a smaller inheritance, but concubines have been frequently used to produce heirs when a wife could not bear them.

In opposition to those laws, traditional Western laws do not acknowledge the legal status of concubines, rather only admitting monogamous marriages. Any other relationship does not enjoy legal protection, making the woman essentially a mistress.

So generally, there is a big difference between a concubine and a whore. And inb4lock due to kiddies trying to thrawl.

[Kil'drakor]

How is word definition in any way Game Related?

Besides, whores > concubines.

[Cyaska]

Oh no, I can't make arguments of my own.

Quick! To the online dictionaries!

Actually, whether I can make arguments of my own is quite irrelevant. When somebody argues the definition of the word, and you need a reliable source, where do you go?

High horse. Get off it.

[Guest]

where do you go?

On the internets to find arguments that supports your own narrow view, obviously, without providing a source.
Try these for variety:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/concubine
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concubine

High horse. Get off it.

Nah, I like the view up here.

[Gunnell]

Oh hai gaiz, wuts goin on dis side?

[Guldujenu]

How is word definition in any way Game Related?

People may have it as their IC title? Also if you think there are no concubines ingame, go to The Black Temple, Illidan has a hundred of them.

[Mandui]

....aaaand how or why was this actually started? I don't get it.

[Guest]

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1535583844?page=2

He decided to move it here so no trolls could interupt the valuable discussion.

[Shaelyssa]

This is all just semantics and it's all relative and subjective. What a concubine is in one culture is different to another.

It is sad to see people trying to be funny and trolling on the realm forum still ...

[Mandui]

Amusing read. Although I still wonder...didn't he claim he quit the game not 2 weeks ago with a realm forum thread etc.?

[Guest]

Yup.

[Geldar]

Amusing read. Although I still wonder...didn't he claim he quit the game not 2 weeks ago with a realm forum thread etc.?

Such things are usually done to remind people that said person still exists and to gather some attention. -shrug-

[Cyaska]

I've not logged into the actual game for over a month.

Doesn't mean I can't still lurk. Nice try though.

Edit: Also, Geldar, people proclaim themself generals of Stormwind for attention too.

[Geldar]

Whats on everyone's mind right now.

Spoiler:

[Cyaska]

plz geldar stop derailing my thread with ur trolling

ill report u to a moderatorOHWAITLOL

The irony burns my brain.

[Mandui]

I've not logged into the actual game for over a month.

Doesn't mean I can't still lurk. Nice try though.

Yeah well, when someone goes "I cba", "too much effort" and "I quit", one naturally assumes the person is fed up with the community and won't bother anymore, right? And lurking is usually just observing without partaking in anything anymore, something that would support the above statements even more. So don't get your feathers all ruffled up just because people are surprised not only because you're still around, but also because you still very much bother after all

[Cyaska]

I'm only here for my own amusement on slow days. If that constitutes being bothered, then so be it. ^_^

[Mandui]

I'm only here for my own amusement on slow days. If that constitutes being bothered, then so be it. ^_^

I only asked if you quit because I thought I remembered the post you made on the realm forums not long ago. Yet you went all passive-aggressive. I think that says it all. But sure, go ahead ^^

[Nathiniós]

ITT: Cyaska digging the proverbial grave.

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