Re: GERMANY WON

by **Lini** Sun May 30, 2010 1:39 pm

I believe it's once again time to post this chart.
GERMANY WON - Page 2 8cb34908b0f3763d85a0d50f7ef530fe8b3abb59

by **Gahalla** Sun May 30, 2010 1:56 pm

Anaei/Vezullia wrote:

It is entirely political and financial. Germany has the best and most secure financial standing in Europe currently, coincidence? I think not. Aye, I loved the song, however, notice how the former satillites all voted for Russia? It's all about who did what for who when. It should be about the music.

A couple of years ago, one swedish commentator joked:
"It is too bad all these other nations vote on each others instead of the good contributions, namely: Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Iceland"

Basically:
It is about the music. It's just that the taste in music tends to be very regional.
What is popular in one scandinavian nation is going to be popular in the others. What is popular in Portugal will be liked in Spain. What the czhecks like, the slovaks will like. What the Romanians like will be liked in Moldova. What the greeks like the cypriots will appriciate.
Albanians, Croatians and Slovenians have the same taste, which is also very much alike to that of Serbia, Bosnia, Macedonia and Montenegro (they were in the same country once, go figure).

Essentially, music taste is very regional. The reason France, UK, Germany and Spain gets a bit shafted here is that they more or less take up their entire region alone (plus the fact that they auto-qualificate. Meaning their songs won't be heard as many times and given less time to sink in and become popular)

The only cases that seems rather obvious as there is political voting would be Georgia (no points for russia at all. Hmm... you'd think they'd appriciate the same sort of music) and cyprus (no points for turkey at all, despite having similar taste in music)

Besides... Last year Norway won by a overwhelming majority, this year germany won by a overwhelming majority. Most of those points came from "those eastern european nations only voting for each others". Last I checked, germany and norway aren't in the eastern european area.

by Guest Sun May 30, 2010 2:12 pm

Gahalla wrote:Last year Norway won by a overwhelming majority, this year germany won by a overwhelming majority. Most of those points came from "those eastern european nations only voting for each others". Last I checked, germany and norway aren't in the eastern european area.

(Personal opinion) Norway won because the guy was "charming", not because he could sing. The same could be said about the girl from Germany. She only got a "decent" voice, but the song and herself appears to be "charming".

Charming = Profit???

Still, they had to change the voting system cause all those eastern european nations only voted for each others.

by Guest Sun May 30, 2010 2:15 pm

by Guest Sun May 30, 2010 2:17 pm

Lotheran/Armac wrote:

Yep, that was the only Eurovision show worth seeing.

by **Gahalla** Sun May 30, 2010 2:35 pm

Veratic wrote:
Gahalla wrote:Last year Norway won by a overwhelming majority, this year germany won by a overwhelming majority. Most of those points came from "those eastern european nations only voting for each others". Last I checked, germany and norway aren't in the eastern european area.
(Personal opinion) Norway won because the guy was "charming", not because he could sing. The same could be said about the girl from Germany. She only got a "decent" voice, but the song and herself appears to be "charming".

Charming = Profit???

Still, they had to change the voting system cause all those eastern european nations only voted for each others.

Yes, they changed the system 2008 due to the demands of primarily UK, France and Germany from the system without any jury at all which had been in place since 1998. Mind... only half of those years had been hosted in a eastern european country (the others shared between Greece, Israel, Turkey, Denmark, Sweden and Finland).

by **Jakins** Sun May 30, 2010 4:43 pm

It's bollocks, either way.

Germany gives a bunch of money out to countries to save them, they get voted for.

With only 50% of the vote being from the public, may as well just give it to the politicians completely! What a waste of time, it's become.

At least Graham Norton kept his typical humour and proceeded to mock ALL the representatives for the countries.

by **Wubeh** Sun May 30, 2010 7:36 pm

And this is why I need Prozac.

by Guest Sun May 30, 2010 7:47 pm

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by **Kristeas Sunbinder** Sun May 30, 2010 7:52 pm

What was heard, cannot be unheard.

by **Raelo/Lucanor** Sun May 30, 2010 8:37 pm

I'm probably the only person in the Netherlands that hasn't heard that song yet.

I must be the luckiest person in this country...

Also, Geldar, did Kazakhstan participate? O.o
I knew about Turkey, Israel and the Kaukasus states, and I can somehow understand that they participate, but central asia...

by **Gahalla** Sun May 30, 2010 8:49 pm

Jakins wrote:It's bollocks, either way.

Germany gives a bunch of money out to countries to save them, they get voted for.

With only 50% of the vote being from the public, may as well just give it to the politicians completely! What a waste of time, it's become.

At least Graham Norton kept his typical humour and proceeded to mock ALL the representatives for the countries.

You are aware that for the majority of eurovisions history a jury decided the majority of the points, right? It wasn't until 1998 that televoting became the norm that decided the majority of the votes (which as I said was changed into the current model 2008). The people watching have more control of the votes now than they used to.

And no, Muspel. Kazakhstan did not participate nor are they eligible (but they are members of EBU). Only nations in television-region 1 may participate (which besides europe, means north africa, Caucasus and the levant)

by **Nathiniós** Sun May 30, 2010 9:23 pm

I find it rather amusing people actually care this much about a contest over who has the most retarded musicians. Politics involved or not.

by **Etular** Sun May 30, 2010 10:54 pm

Lilenath wrote:Anyone who has the slightest respect for good music hates Eurovision.
It's not a song contest, it's an international ass-licking festival.

Agreed. Turkey or Romania should've won.

by **Mandui** Sun May 30, 2010 11:07 pm

Nathiniós wrote:I find it rather amusing people actually care this much about a contest over who has the most retarded musicians. Politics involved or not.

by Guest Mon May 31, 2010 9:16 am

What about Lordi? And Abba? Retarded or not, legends they are.

by **Wubeh** Mon May 31, 2010 9:41 am

Archal/Hazrah/Vaneyk wrote:And Abba?

Please dont mention that abomination.

by **Kristeas Sunbinder** Mon May 31, 2010 9:43 am

by **Skarre** Mon May 31, 2010 10:22 am

Lordi was the only song i've herd in this pill of wast a good night of tv..
and they sacred me

by Guest Mon May 31, 2010 10:25 am

LETS NOT FORGET!

:p

by **Nathiniós** Mon May 31, 2010 10:54 am

Wubeh wrote:
Archal/Hazrah/Vaneyk wrote:And Abba?

Please dont mention that abomination.

Only Sweden could have put out such a monster, for we are a land of gods and great beasts!

by **Kristeas Sunbinder** Mon May 31, 2010 10:56 am

Little known fact, when Thor beat the shit out of the midgard serpent, it seperated ito four pieces.

Also, the pun:
abbamination.

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