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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:37 pm

who wat when where????

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Post by Seranita Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:49 pm

o.O Not bad.. getin more action than me at least *nods* respect!
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Post by Morinth Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:59 pm

We went to visit Quins mothers grave and it's bein' desecrated by some butt-lovin' whacko! \o/
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Post by Seranita Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:00 pm

rofl UL
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Post by Muzjhath Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:33 pm

In response to this thread: http://www.defiasrp.com/t3837-the-game I wonder some things.
First, how would you define nerdyness. To someone board games are far more nerdy than roleplaying. Etc

Now, to the main points.
How is it possible to know your fav colour? Seriously. No colour is always best, colours fit differendly depending on where and when.
How can you bluntly just surefire say a fav book and movie. And the bi question, is that same fav the best you've ever seen? I have trouble keeping a top 5 that's sort of constant I'd never be able to say an absolute one.

It just baffles me.
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Post by corleth Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:36 pm

Muzjhath wrote:In response to this thread: http://www.defiasrp.com/t3837-the-game I wonder some things.
First, how would you define nerdyness. To someone board games are far more nerdy than roleplaying. Etc

Now, to the main points.
How is it possible to know your fav colour? Seriously. No colour is always best, colours fit differendly depending on where and when.
How can you bluntly just surefire say a fav book and movie. And the bi question, is that same fav the best you've ever seen? I have trouble keeping a top 5 that's sort of constant I'd never be able to say an absolute one.

It just baffles me.
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:15 am

"Particles recorded moving faster than light - CERN"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/science-light-idUSL5E7KM3UU20110922

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Post by Morinth Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:56 am

After nomming ice cream, Sugar Puffs taste surprisingly bland.
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Post by Malchiel Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:16 am

Morinth wrote:After nomming ice cream, Sugar Puffs taste surprisingly bland.

Put them in your ice cream and win?

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Post by Jeanpierre Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:53 am

Kristeas Sunbinder wrote:"Particles recorded moving faster than light - CERN"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/science-light-idUSL5E7KM3UU20110922

I wouldn't be surprised if they conclude Light is "slowed" by its duality. I'm far from qualified to form an opinion on the matter though Very Happy
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Post by Saevir Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:11 am

As exciting as the notion that this discovery might overturn 70 years of physics is, it's a good thing to keep in mind that the past 70 years of physics have worked quite well for all practical purposes they have been applied to.
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Post by Lavian Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:37 am

Morinth wrote:After nomming ice cream, Sugar Puffs taste surprisingly bland.

Wheetabix, you infidel.
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Post by Jeanpierre Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:40 am

Well yes... I also wonder about the relevance of such discoveries at times, but.... to discover and understand is the first step to build an application that might be useful. But I'm quite sceptic on the value of new elementary physics. While the scientists speak as if they are unraveling the mysteries of the world and the fundaments of matter... I'm beginning to doubt the usability of it.

As elementary physics dig deeper, it feels as if its value is becoming more and more restricted to academic values and less so in application. There are but two exceptions to this, I think. One would be the discovery of a new source of power. The other would be the ability to use such properties in communication and computation.
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:45 am

Jeanpierre wrote:Well yes... I also wonder about the relevance of such discoveries at times, but.... to discover and understand is the first step to build an application that might be useful. But I'm quite sceptic on the value of new elementary physics. While the scientists speak as if they are unraveling the mysteries of the world and the fundaments of matter... I'm beginning to doubt the usability of it.

As elementary physics dig deeper, it feels as if its value is becoming more and more restricted to academic values and less so in application. There are but two exceptions to this, I think. One would be the discovery of a new source of power. The other would be the ability to use such properties in communication and computation.

- Find particle that causes gravity.
- ???
- Replicate in space.
- Acquire artificial gravity.
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Post by Jeanpierre Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:33 am

Imagine they discover it. Do you believe replication is possible?
Furthermore, that this is possible at an affordable cost of energy and usable rate?
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:40 am

Jeanpierre wrote:Imagine they discover it. Do you believe replication is possible?
Given enough time (and we don't blow ourselves up), I wouldn't be surprised if they discover it and replicate it.

Furthermore, that this is possible at an affordable cost of energy and usable rate?
Again, given enough time, I wouldn't discount the possibility.



Anything is possible, that's why students could now be failing exams over facts that are proven wrong in a year.
It might also be possible that the neutrino thing doesn't dissprove Einsteins relativy and can be used to explain other things. Not that I know that much about physics ofcourse :3

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Post by Jeanpierre Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:14 pm

Well... in this I'm more sceptical. I don't believe we can generate any royal amount of energy as often as would please us. This logic that "in time we will find a way" is still a mindset that was generated with the discovery of early "modern physics". In a short time, we discovered a great many things that answered many of the problems society was facing then. It spawned the "illusion" (as I like to call it) that we could solve any problem.

I don't agree. I think that, at some point, we might reach a conclusion "Oh.. this could work, but all we need is an energy source as large as the sun". Or.. in order to harvest the power of source X, we would need a machine that might cost more power and mass than we have available.
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:27 pm

Jeanpierre wrote:Well... in this I'm more sceptical. I don't believe we can generate any royal amount of energy as often as would please us. This logic that "in time we will find a way" is still a mindset that was generated with the discovery of early "modern physics". In a short time, we discovered a great many things that answered many of the problems society was facing then. It spawned the "illusion" (as I like to call it) that we could solve any problem.

I don't agree. I think that, at some point, we might reach a conclusion "Oh.. this could work, but all we need is an energy source as large as the sun". Or.. in order to harvest the power of source X, we would need a machine that might cost more power and mass than we have available.

I think that falls under the Dyson Sphere/Shell idea.

And I consider the "in time we will find a way" with how transportation has developed (a little over 50 years to go from sorta flying in the atmosphere to shooting something into space). I'd sooner say that the problem for technological development is if humans "allow it". I don't know where I read it, but I remember the prediction that physics (and sciences in general) have two paths in front of them.
The theoretical one, like the CERN experiments with the LHC, and the practical path that allows for money to be made.
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Post by Jeanpierre Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:37 pm

Well.. I can understand those two paths, but I also feel there is a limit to what is feasable. In theory, we might some day know how to generate matter and spawn a new planet. In practice, it might not prove possible simply due to the lack of available energy.
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:43 pm

Jeanpierre wrote:Well.. I can understand those two paths, but I also feel there is a limit to what is feasable. In theory, we might some day know how to generate matter and spawn a new planet. In practice, it might not prove possible simply due to the lack of available energy.
Generating enough matter to get a new planet would be on the end spectrum of things like generating enough matter to fill a glass with water.
I can imagine that such a technology would be halted by certain aspects of an economy.
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Post by Jeanpierre Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:49 pm

Oh you and your economics! What good has that done to us lately!
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You're quite right.
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:50 pm

Be open to the possibilities!
Question everything!
Always bring a towel!
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Post by Jeanpierre Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:51 pm

And a toothbrush.
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Post by Lavian Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:54 pm

This has come to my attention oO

"First game for £1"

http://www.onlive.co.uk/go/one-pound?ol_campgn_internal=featuredgames

For UK peeps.
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Post by Morinth Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:12 pm

Does that actually work, Eira? :O If so... Omg.
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