Re: Mists of Pandaria

by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:19 pm

It's Blizzard... Or rather, Metzen and his half-empty bottle of bourbon. Of course it'll be something pulled from tvtropes Very Happy

by **Kristeas Sunbinder** Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:20 pm

Vec wrote:Don't actually think Garrosh has gone insane, or been corrupted. I think the non-orc horde just get pissed off at his thick skull and un-like the alliance actually kill retarded leaders..?

When he's defeated Thrall will swoop and discover that garrosh is actualy wearing a mask.
Thrall rips the mask off to reveal:

Spoiler:

by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:26 pm

Since nobody linked where people can look for info.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2687-Mists-of-Pandaria-Press-Tour

I'm still meh on it all.

by **Gesh** Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:26 pm

So hoping Vol'jin and Sylvanas completely obliterate that brown-skinned dog and have him publically executed.

Thrall not even knowing about it till after it happens, he can go play house with his little preggers wife.

In fact no, they die too.

by **Seranita** Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:27 pm

ahh haha what the .. you crazy man.. you crazy!

by **Rmuffn** Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm

Vec wrote:Don't actually think Garrosh has gone insane, or been corrupted. I think the non-orc horde just get pissed off at his thick skull and un-like the alliance actually kill retarded leaders..?

Garrosh is an orc, they -are- a warrior race, before the Demons corrupted them. They were chosen due to the fact they were such a promising race of fighters.
Garrosh also has to live up to a VERY big name, his father's, then another big name Thrall, the one he succeeded. Two great names he probably feel he has to mirror.

Then there's a dickhead animefaggot that keep prodding (and Varian -does- make rather foul moves every so often.) him, which only fuels his anger for the Alliance. Neither side is the good side. Garrosh just gets highlighted, unfairly. He's also not very tactical, admittedly, he wants so much for the orcish horde, yet resources demanded are high, which brings war to new fronts. He is giving his Horde a better place in the world equally as he brings it back down in the mud.

But he's not retarded, only weighted down by the past, I reckon.

Also. Now we know the Scarlets yet draw breath.

by **Gesh** Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:34 pm

Watch the f-word.

Secondly, I don't like either of them. I just can't believe how -stupid- Blizzard have been and just let Tyrande and Velen just remain voiceless against Varian and his predictable and short-sighted nature. I dislike Garrosh because he's also a massive tool, and a typical orc. Some people like that about him, I don't. I prefered Thrall's diplomatic nature but also how he could also be bad ass motha'fucka' when needed.

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by **Kristeas Sunbinder** Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:34 pm

Faralan wrote:Also. Now we know the Scarlets yet draw breath.

Just can't stay dead, just like the thing they fight.

by **Teebo** Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:19 pm

Cirenah wrote:
...we wanted to tell you that so you understand that this expansion is not a joke. It is not light and fluffy...

The second section has the Virmen, which are evil, crazy bunnies that will eat anything.
The biggest Virmen of them all is Hoptallus, the next boss. He has a furlwind attack and carrot breath that you have to avoid.
The third section has old beer that has gone bad and come alive. It has Stormbrew Alementals and spirits.
The final boss is Yan-Zhu the Uncasked a beer elemental.

My head. It hurts.

Let's not forget these highly plausible natives:

"The Hozen
They act like a group of 14 year old boys running around together in the jungle, equipped with machine guns and weapons from the Horde..."

Yup, clearly not a joke expansion.

Meh, the lack of progress on character model updates is a big letdown. Kinda surprised that item squish isn't making the cut in MoP either since it's obviously something they want to address and the numbers are just going to get worse. As expected, the artwork and production quality is promising -- even if the Pandaren female model is too fluffy/cutesy for my tastes -- and the return to a large continent (with even more zones than initially trailed) should promote some of the early Wrath and TBC experience. It can't really be any worse than Cata. *cough*

The Pandaren lore and general plot points haven't really grabbed me yet, although I'm looking forward to seeing how the Theramore event pans out. As ever, they make all the right noises before beta then a bunch of stuff gets cut, indefinitely delayed or remains broken for most of the expansion and we'll be continually chided to wait for the next expansion to "fix it." Bleh.

by **Lavian** Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:29 pm

Lini wrote:Touch of Death

4 Chi, Melee Range, Instant, 1.5 min cooldown
Requires Ox Stance, Tiger Stance
You exploit the enemy target's weakest point, instantly killing them.
Only usable on non-player targets who have equal or less health than you.

Ooh...

I'm really liking these monk abilities. Looks like Lini will be returning as a monk as I was planning...

*Has a hard time picturing Lini as a monk*

by **Vaell** Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:41 pm

Killing Garrosh is such poor storytelling. This is like Benedictus and Illidan all over again. Half arsed rush job to explain why Garrosh deserves death incoming. Further down the line, yes, but he is one of the best characters in the game currently. He adds so much tension and warmongering that it makes WoW feel more like Warcraft.

This is a world of WAR, why the hell would you then kill off one of the biggest characters when he has only just began to show his character strength.

As much as I love Sylvanas, it would have made more sense to kill her as the Forsaken are the most oppressed in the Horde so it'd make sense for her to try and murder Garrosh - which would stir things more.

Blizzard Sad

Other than that (AND PANDAS) I'm liking the new talents, although Mages look like they're going to be mental now. Frost bombs!?!!

EDIT: That humanoid Fish race should have been playable. They look so much better than Pandas. I'm just hoping the entire expansion isn't built on puns, jokes and sillyness.

by **Gesh** Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:43 pm

Well Garrosh has pissed off every single race, save for the Orcs.
And this is going to happen at the -end- of MoP, so we don't know exactly what will provoke both the Horde and Alliance?

by **erwtenpeller** Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:46 pm

Vaell wrote:I'm just hoping the entire expansion isn't built on puns, jokes and sillyness.

...Which has always been a big part of the Warcraft universe, and is what made me fall in love with it personally. Some badassery, some silliness, lots of pretty colors and big shoulderpads.

Then again, I also though Cata was the best expantion ever and I stand by that claim. Very Happy

by **Vaell** Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:49 pm

That is true, but knowing Blizzard they won't give an amazing reason for his death. I'd understand overthrowing him - but killing him outright will probably be because of "Garrosh called the Pandarians gay and they're our new friends!"

He is a great character and unless he goes down with one hell of a bang, I'ma be pissed.

Puns and jokes have been in the Warcraft universe a long time, but they've never truly messed with the lore. They have been for the occassional quest or easter egg. Pandara looks 98% silly.

EDIT: e.g an instance built around drunken sword fighting monkeys who use magic to awaken the ale-mentals... Funny in a quest, but that is defining an entire race as stupid. I'd recommend WoW in MoP to a foetus

by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:55 pm

Vaell wrote:Killing Garrosh is such poor storytelling. This is like Benedictus and Illidan all over again. Half arsed rush job to explain why Garrosh deserves death incoming. Further down the line, yes, but he is one of the best characters in the game currently. He adds so much tension and warmongering that it makes WoW feel more like Warcraft.

This is a world of WAR, why the hell would you then kill off one of the biggest characters when he has only just began to show his character strength.

As much as I love Sylvanas, it would have made more sense to kill her as the Forsaken are the most oppressed in the Horde so it'd make sense for her to try and murder Garrosh - which would stir things more.

Blizzard

Other than that (AND PANDAS) I'm liking the new talents, although Mages look like they're going to be mental now. Frost bombs!?!!

EDIT: That humanoid Fish race should have been playable. They look so much better than Pandas. I'm just hoping the entire expansion isn't built on puns, jokes and sillyness.

Well to be fair, blizz has shown that they can't really tell stories well through these expansions. Deathwing was a rushjob. The whole bennedictus thing made up a quest, and 2 paragraphs of dialogue. So any SUPER GARROSH PROGRESSION they might promise will come down to oh let me think, a quest, maybe a dungeon run?

by **Velynia** Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:06 pm

The only thing that truly intrests me is the new Warlocks Pets. I DEMAND MORE INFORMATION!

by **Gesh** Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:11 pm

Wouldn't it be cooler to kill off a warchief and more -believable-? then to be like..
" Okay Garrosh! now your being mean, let Thrall have a turn! "

by **Melnerag** Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:11 pm

Velynia wrote:The only thing that truly intrests me is the new Warlocks Pets. I DEMAND MORE INFORMATION!

Shivarra!

by **Morinth** Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:12 pm

I dislike Garrosh, not only does his model LOOK retarded, he acts it too.

by **erwtenpeller** Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:14 pm

More cosmetic glyps tickle my parts. The druid glyphs they have teased alone are edging me to roll a druid. I mean, an astral form instead of boombin? YES. YES YES YES. YES. yes. yeeeeessss...

by **Gesh** Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:18 pm

Delidah wrote:More cosmetic glyps tickle my parts. The druid glyphs they have teased alone are edging me to roll a druid. I mean, an astral form instead of boombin? YES. YES YES YES. YES. yes. yeeeeessss...

WUT. WHERE!?

by **erwtenpeller** Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:21 pm

Check out the professions tab here.

New Glyphs
Here's a list of some of the new glyphs we found at the press conference:

Glyph of Stars: Moonkin Form ability is replaced with Astral Form, conferring all the same benefits, but now appearing as an astrally enchanted version of your normal humanoid form.
Glyph of the Chameleon: Each time you shapeshift into Cat Form or Bear Form, your shapeshifted form will have a random hair color.
Glyph of the Orca: Your Aquatic Form now appears as an Orca.
Glyph of the Stag: Your Travel Form now appears as a Stag and can be used as a mount by party members.
Glyph of the Treant: Allows you to shapeshift into Treant Form. The act of shapeshifting frees the caster of movement slowing effects.
The Moonbeast: You can now cast Healing Touch, Rejuvenation, and Tranquility without canceling Moonkin Form.
Glyph of Righteous Retreat: During Divine Shield, you can invoke your Hearthstone 50% faster.
Glyph of the Falling Avenger: You slow fall during Avenging Wrath.
Glyph of Bladed Judgement: Your Judgement spell depicts an axe or sword instead of a hammer, if you have an axe or sword equipped.
Glyph of Winged Vengence: You grow larger during Avenging Wrath.
Glyph of Mounted Kings: Mounting a paladin mount automatically casts Blessing of Kings on you.
Glyph of the Luminous Charger: Your paladin class mounts glow with Holy Light.
Glyph of Fire From the Heavens: Your Judgment and Hammer of Wrath critical strikes call down fire from the sky.
Glyph of Ice Lance: Your Ice Lance now hits 1 additional target for 50% damage.
Glyph of Counterspell: Your Counterspell can now be cast while casting or channeling other spells, but its cooldown is increased by 4 sec.

This could make a Delidah-druid-proxy veeeeery viable. Astral Projection much? Very Happy

by **Gesh** Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:24 pm

Oh em gee, those sound amazing! I wonder if resto shamans will finally get an ancestoral calling that isn't an orc!
Stag form!?

by **Seranita** Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:25 pm

a delli who is transparent and sparkly?? o.O but.. how blinks and invisible???

by **Melnerag** Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:30 pm

*hopes for super awsome stuff for warlocks*

Permanent Eye of Kilrogg?
Replacing Eye of Kilrogg with something else? (your own projection?)
Incubi?
Fel-green incinirate/immolate/soulfire?

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