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Path of Conquest: Chapter I [Concluded]

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Post by Dréfurion Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:07 pm

Kristeas Sunbinder wrote:They can't have their fidler die on them I believe. Not sure if he's the pope either.

JP > all you Horde!!11!!!!

(He can fidle me anytime... :3)

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Post by Kil'drakor Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:13 pm

Fiddler lying in a pool of blood.

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Post by Thelos Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:01 am

Vectoria wrote:
YOU ALWAYS GET SAVED! D:

*Casts Leap of Faith on Jean-Pierre*

*Whistles innocently*
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Post by Aldric Essalus Helmfrid Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:31 am

I was on the side-lines cheering/dancing/shakingmymoneymaker... Gah hurry up 85!
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Post by Dréfurion Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:52 am



This is the Night Elf warsong.. If you imagine we're both the british and the natives.. And you replace "redskins" with "greenskins" when the humans sink. (the pale faces are the forsaken, ofcourse)

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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:24 am

Drefurion wrote:

This is the Night Elf warsong.. If you imagine we're both the british and the natives.. And you replace "redskins" with "greenskins" when the humans sink. (the pale faces are the forsaken, ofcourse)

War on yourself eh, sounds like the molten front.
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Post by Dréfurion Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:34 am

Kristeas Sunbinder wrote:
Drefurion wrote:

This is the Night Elf warsong.. If you imagine we're both the british and the natives.. And you replace "redskins" with "greenskins" when the humans sink. (the pale faces are the forsaken, ofcourse)

War on yourself eh, sounds like the molten front.

Ignore the clip and the context! Just imagine them all singing this together and each verse being about a diffrent part of the Horde!

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Post by Gesh Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:25 pm

Curse you internet! Curse you!
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Post by Janela Thunderwing Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:15 pm

Why did the rules change for the Theramore battle? <.<
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Post by Drustai Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:57 pm

Grr, kept DC'ing on the last two rounds. Sad

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Post by Kil'drakor Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:55 pm

Anrim Stouthammer wrote:Why did the rules change for the Theramore battle? <.<

Because when talking it over with Jomir, I discovered that the Horde wasn't able to win it with that particular rule-set. They simply wouldn't have a chance. That's why I changed it into a tug-of-war style event, in which both parties would be able to push and fall back depending on the flow of battle.

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Post by Dréfurion Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:15 pm

Gnash wrote:
Anrim Stouthammer wrote:Why did the rules change for the Theramore battle? <.<

Because when talking it over with Jomir, I discovered that the Horde wasn't able to win it with that particular rule-set. They simply wouldn't have a chance. That's why I changed it into a tug-of-war style event, in which both parties would be able to push and fall back depending on the flow of battle.

And that time you charged early *coughs*

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Post by Jeanpierre Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:42 am

Odrade tried to kill me Sad
I guess she wasn't too fond of the box I had her burried in. Very Happy

Actually I had a good time, but... I do feel this "rape the healers" contest is being taken a step too far. Barring the AoE damage and Jomir, I found myself barely healing anything else than my fellow healers. I don't object a bit of sports, but I also was under the impression this was to be a fun battle. I get the impression the competition is souring up the atmosphere.

I have also been attacked, repeatedly, after ressing and regrouping. No harm done, in the sense I wasn't killed and I doubt anyone truly had that intention (after the battle anyways, lol). But provocative attacks to people walking off, be it Horde or Alliance, isn't really a good sport. I have the impression the atmosphere was so laden, at least against Alliance, that people found themselves unable to resist such behavior.

Perhaps these are signs of this competition being taken too far?
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:07 am

/rude and slowly walking through the enemy after rez, those aren't exactly smart things either. ((Even if Drefurion prob got the record for most deaths))

As for the "go for the healers", it's either that or not attack healers at all. Trying to limit the amount of attacks, that's not going to work.
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Post by The Misty Beast Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:39 am

JP, trust me, when we had two healers at the beginning of the battle and you had four, I spent most of the time running in circles and getting pesky rogues and druids off my bum. The competition is going on both sides.


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Post by Kil'drakor Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:41 am

Jeanpierre wrote:Actually I had a good time, but... I do feel this "rape the healers" contest is being taken a step too far. Barring the AoE damage and Jomir, I found myself barely healing anything else than my fellow healers. I don't object a bit of sports, but I also was under the impression this was to be a fun battle. I get the impression the competition is souring up the atmosphere.

Hrm. The Horde at least is not turning sour. You have to keep in mind that while it may be a bit frustrating that you get singled out, we have no other option than go for the healers, since healers make and break PvP. That's one of the reasons we've decided to balance the amount of healers on both sides, right? It's a sad truth imo, but a truth nonetheless. While frustrating that you only get to heal your fellow healers, I find this a valid tactic to try and win.

I have also been attacked, repeatedly, after ressing and regrouping. No harm done, in the sense I wasn't killed and I doubt anyone truly had that intention (after the battle anyways, lol). But provocative attacks to people walking off, be it Horde or Alliance, isn't really a good sport. I have the impression the atmosphere was so laden, at least against Alliance, that people found themselves unable to resist such behavior.

People that corpsecamp get booted from the raid and receive a warning from me. That being said, I kind of frown upon seeing members of the Alliance resurrect, /rude, and walk (not run, but walk as if they just did groceries) away. A bit provocative, isn't it? That being said, corpsecamping will never get condoned - but don't be surprised if one of the players decides to give you a suggestive auto-attack to the face.

Perhaps these are signs of this competition being taken too far?

I wouldn't say so. A lot is at stake, so I am not surprised that people take this campaign seriously. And they have good reason for it. That's why it's important that we keep communicating intensively, so that improvements can be made. Smile

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Post by Jeanpierre Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:30 am

Kristeas Sunbinder wrote:/rude and slowly walking through the enemy after rez, those aren't exactly smart things either. ((Even if Drefurion prob got the record for most deaths)).

I never did /rude. And the only time I walked slowly was after being ganked to buy myself time to check the names. It didn't seem to matter much however. Even when using a gryphon to fly my ass out of there in subsequent fights I got shit thrown at me.

So no. I'm sorry. That won't cut it for me. For neither side. Pretending provocation as excuse to harass people is not a good show... Provoking is just as deplorable for that matter.

Gnash wrote:Hrm. The Horde at least is not turning sour. You have to keep in mind that while it may be a bit frustrating that you get singled out, we have no other option than go for the healers, since healers make and break PvP. That's one of the reasons we've decided to balance the amount of healers on both sides, right? It's a sad truth imo, but a truth nonetheless. While frustrating that you only get to heal your fellow healers, I find this a valid tactic to try and win.
Noted. I shall evaluate my stance accordingly.
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Post by Jeanpierre Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:33 am

Frazl wrote:JP, trust me, when we had two healers at the beginning of the battle and you had four, I spent most of the time running in circles and getting pesky rogues and druids off my bum. The competition is going on both sides.

Certainly! I find the excessive focus deplorable for both sides, not just one Smile
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:53 am

Jeanpierre wrote:
Kristeas Sunbinder wrote:/rude and slowly walking through the enemy after rez, those aren't exactly smart things either. ((Even if Drefurion prob got the record for most deaths)).

I never did /rude. And the only time I walked slowly was after being ganked to buy myself time to check the names. It didn't seem to matter much however. Even when using a gryphon to fly my ass out of there in subsequent fights I got shit thrown at me.

So no. I'm sorry. That won't cut it for me. For neither side. Pretending provocation as excuse to harass people is not a good show... Provoking is just as deplorable for that matter.

I'm not saying that you did it, but that it's being done.
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Post by Jeanpierre Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:59 am

We really should promote to stop that. It did bring a smile on my face when I saw a group of Dwarves run up front and moon, in Braveheart style.. but that was before the battle and entirely IC.

We may be bashing eachother's brain, and hitting that broken skull again to make sure that poor excuse of a corpse won't rise again (in the hands of Vectoria Very Happy) but that doesn't mean we can't do this in the most respectful way? Razz
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:02 am

Distribute invisibility potions everyone can pop after a rez Very Happy
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Post by Jeanpierre Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:09 am

Kristeas Sunbinder wrote:Distribute invisibility potions everyone can pop after a rez Very Happy

Hehehe! Or Orbs of the Sindorei.. and deviate fish.
"I'm not an Tauren.. YARR! I be a pirate matey.. And I.. eh.. be... charging them landlubbers on my own now" *grabs a Gnome and begins to eat it* "Just a snack for the trip, matey."
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:11 am

Orbs didn't help, you should pay more attention to your pet night elves.
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Post by Kozgugore Feraleye Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:31 pm

Gnash and Frazl summed up most of the sentiments, though might I add that if you do find yourself (in your opinion unjustifiably) killed, report the names or provide with screenshots if need be to the raid or guild leader. It would be easier to deal with the culprit if that kind of information would be provided (which, by the way, counts for any kind of case you might find game-breaking or the like).
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Post by Jeanpierre Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:45 pm

Certainly, but I might add it didn't go as far as killing. I just noted a rather tense atmosphere, and while some action and suspense is good.. I'd like to promote a more positive expression of that -before- it leads to ganking/camping and possibly removal from the group.

Let me be clear on that again. Aside from some taunting, there was no thorough abuse of the rules, as far as I detected. Certainly not worthy kicking people or burning them at the stake.
I just try to appeal on people's sportsmanship to raise the bar and hope both sides will drop the OOC taunting and sometimes rude behavior.
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