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Post by Elloa Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:53 pm

I don't know if it's extremly needed, but i guess it could be cool. It's true that there is not so much Draenei role player, but you have thousand sub group for human, why not a sub group for Draenei ?

In this section we could have :

- Discussion of how to role play correctly a Draenei, how to roleplay long living race.
- Imagining worlds met between Argus and Draenor
- Have some kind of Flashback stories on forum, (could be some open role play of what happeend on the Exodar during the flight etc)
- Prepare the Flashback events
- Establish relationship between Draenei role players : who know who etc
- Imagining, or share (if Ere Argus have already started that on their own forum) typical Draenei ceremonies, and cultural lore.
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Post by Nayan Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:42 pm

The reason for most of the human subgroups, is that it was required to make the groups in order to fix permissions for boards hosted by these forums. (guild forums mostly). Other than that, there is at most 1-2 human groups.

I wouldn't horribly mind a draenei group, just a matter of efficiency, if it is to have 5 people in it then it would be more of a clutter than organizing anything. Smile

Edit: Also, moved the topic as it was not related to the game itself. Wink
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Post by Sanara Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:44 pm

As far as I know there's none yet, no. Actual Draenei Roleplayers are so rare that it would hardly see use, but I'd personally like if it existed since one of my aims is to see Draenei RP revitalized overall!
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Post by Elloa Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:55 pm

We need more Draenei to support our idea !! *cher up cheer up * !!
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:05 pm

I've seen some draenei rp'ers around, but they seem scattered amongst various guilds.
A subforum might bring some coherence?

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Post by Saevir Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:34 pm

Saali wrote:I've seen some draenei rp'ers around, but they seem scattered amongst various guilds.
A subforum might bring some coherence?

The danger with a private forum is that what discussion that does exist already will go there, further discouraging new RPers from taking part in that aspect of WoW RP. If it's not a private forum, then it could quite well be handled in the existing forums.
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:08 pm

The purpose of this site seems to be to support what RP there already exists rather than attract new people to it, seeing as it's a walled community.

There is no discussion currently regarding draenei rp, but I'm not sure most of those who would be interested have registered here, so *shrug*

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Post by Shriyaro Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:07 am

More Draenei RP would be good, but I don't think we need a separate forum/sub-forum, I think we just need people to organise it.

Once, long ago, Ari and I hoped to organise some, but apparently we have no time left to do anything except eat, sleep, and work anymore Sad
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Post by Elloa Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:06 am

Maybe a sub forum, open to the public ? I personaly don't care that Forsaken, Orc and Night elves see our discussions, it's more to have a little place where we could gather nicely some thread. A sort of data base for Draenei role play. We do not need the secret, just the place.
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Post by Mandui Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:26 am

I think the Draenei RP population is too small for something like that to happen and it would complicate things more instead of simplifying them :/
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Post by Nayan Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:45 am

Please understand, that (as explained in a past request for a usergroup), usergroups should serve an actual function. I understand your intentions, but it doesn't work that way.

Reasons to create a usergroup:

1. Considerable population.
...night elf RP'ers population justifies a group, Forsaken justifies a group, Trolls justify a group. Draenei don't. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact they are Draenei, but with the fact that the active draenei rp population is tiny.

2. Private boards
...a council or a guild board hosted here, would require their own usergroup, for functional reasons (permissions). In which case, the members of the usergroup would be the members of that council or guild. Not the entire race.

Any other reason would only give shiny letters and more headaches to whoever keeps the ACP tidy at any given point, for no real reason.
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Post by Gunnell Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:08 pm

I'd say the opposite, with their own forum the massively scattered Draenei community would be far better able to organise stuff, or at least those on this forum, considering a Draenei thread (ALA: "Worgen, our thread!") will probably become a massive slurry of tail lesbian and "0/ DRANI RPZ R ALL FEMEAL LESB0Z" "GET OUTA TEH CATH FAG0TTZZZZ!111Q!" comments.

Considering I spied a Roaring Lion and Chapter subgroup on the 'Usergroups' page I hardly think "Lack of numbers" can be thrown out to go against it.

I should think there are more Draenei RPers out there than Stormwind Guards or Outlaws (Both of which have their own seperate usergroup) currently registered on this forum.

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Post by Mandui Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:21 pm

Following this logic, there should be a cultist subgroup, and a IC traders one, and a criminals one, and a mercenaries one and so on and so forth...
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Post by Nayan Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:24 pm

Eruadan/Gunnell/Graham wrote:Considering I spied a Roaring Lion and Chapter subgroup on the 'Usergroups' page I hardly think "Lack of numbers" can be thrown out to go against it.

I should think there are more Draenei RPers out there than Stormwind Guards or Outlaws (Both of which have their own seperate usergroup) currently registered on this forum.
Splendid. If only you'd take that time to read instead.

I wrote:2. Private boards
...a council or a guild board hosted here, would require their own usergroup, for functional reasons (permissions). In which case, the members of the usergroup would be the members of that council or guild. Not the entire race.
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Post by Quin Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:39 pm

Wow I love how you people are able to make everything more complicated.
Its a simple request regarding something which should've been there in the first place (Yes even though draenei are outnumbered they should have their own subgroup to atleast try to get things going)

gg community, you lot sure are good at encouraging
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:44 pm

The uselessness of this forum just keeps growing.

Nayan, do take a look here before you go out on a limb:
https://defiasrp.forumotion.net/general-chat-f5/groups-guide-t124.htm
I believe that all the requirements have been fulfulled in the first post, yes?
Apart from posting in that topic regarding having a new subforum :>

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Post by Elloa Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:57 pm

I don't want to insist, or look like insisting, but I want to clarify better my words.

A sub group is maybe not needed indeed. It's boring for moderator to have to check if everyone is in teh right sub group, and if no one is trying to stealth his way etc...
Draenei don't need privacy (at the moment). I think we really do not need that.

BUT... It would be cool to have our own little place, so a sub forum, where we can chat about specific Draenei stuff, such as Lore, role play trick (I think Draenei is probably one of the most challenging race to role play with elves), and have our open-RP Draenei only stuff, etc.. Something, a place, to build our community.
This sub forum can be open/see to all and so do not requiere a sub group with special access and such. To have a sub forum in the "Group forum" tagged "Draenei" should not requiere so much work from the moderator team. And maybe this will even give the desire to some role player to try to role play a Draenei. I was one of those, a bit scarred to rp a Draenei, and it's Halya guide which give me the courage to try.
Thanks Gunell for your comment, btw :

I'd say the opposite, with their own forum the massively scattered Draenei community would be far better able to organise stuff, or at least those on this forum, considering a Draenei thread (ALA: "Worgen, our thread!") will probably become a massive slurry of tail lesbian and "0/ DRANI RPZ R ALL FEMEAL LESB0Z" "GET OUTA TEH CATH FAG0TTZZZZ!111Q!" comments.

Well, I've done now with this suggestion. Smile

And don't worry Nayan and others moderators, I totaly understand that you don't want more work, what you do is already good job, thanks for that.
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Post by Cathee Norris Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:01 pm

I don't understand the issue or the need to insult the forum (and me essentially in that case). Apply for it in the correct thread and it can be seen too. If it won't be used later on it will be closed anyway so. Alike how I plan to have a look through the current groups to determine of some shall be removed for inactivity.
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Post by Elloa Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:35 pm

Before to make the official demand in the group request thread, I want to be sure that others Draenei players agree with me about :

- 1 sub forum for the Draenei community, open and visible for all. No need of sub group
- who want to be moderator ??? :p (i can make it if no one else want it, but I think that some "older" DB player should have the role)
- Who is interested ? So far we can see : Sanara (merandil), Saali, myself, and probably some others Draenei rper such as Shriyaro, Mandui, Halya will stop by Wink
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Post by Kil'drakor Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:47 pm

Instead of all these secretive little race subgroups, why not create a board for every race (which you don't need subgroups for) to provide general information, guides, and just role-playing tips etc.

I for one wouldn't mind a bit more transparency -- especially when there is no need for secrecy, since our characters SHOULD NOT know what we, the players, are reading anyway.

EDIT: better yet; since twelve extra boards are just overkill, why not just one board called "Alliance" and one called "Horde" for Alliance and Horde specific matters?

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Post by itsy Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:50 pm

Gnash wrote:Instead of all these secretive little race subgroups, why not create a board for every race (which you don't need subgroups for) to provide general information, guides, and just role-playing tips etc.

I for one wouldn't mind a bit more transparency -- especially when there is no need for secrecy, since our characters SHOULD NOT know what we, the players, are reading anyway.

EDIT: better yet; since twelve extra boards are just overkill, why not just one board called "Alliance" and one called "Horde" for Alliance and Horde specific matters?

This is the best idea in my opinion, then within these boards you could just have individual threads for the smaller groups.
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Post by Nayan Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:12 pm

Saali wrote:The uselessness of this forum just keeps growing.

Nayan, do take a look here before you go out on a limb:
https://defiasrp.forumotion.net/general-chat-f5/groups-guide-t124.htm
I believe that all the requirements have been fulfulled in the first post, yes?
Apart from posting in that topic regarding having a new subforum :>
Quoting from the thread you linked:
First of all, it has to make any sense.
Quoting from my post:
I wouldn't horribly mind a draenei group, just a matter of efficiency, if it is to have 5 people in it then it would be more of a clutter than organizing anything. Smile

I'd hope I am entitled to reasoning behind why I consider it to be unnecessary, explaining why I don't feel it makes sense, without having to "go on a limb" or be considered "useless". Alternatively, I could just reply this kind of thread with "Yes" and "No", I guess.

As for the idea tossed, that would make sense, yes.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:45 pm

This sounds like a good idea to promote draenei RP.

The circle of darnassus thing is COMPLETLY empty, so I don't see why Nayan has to oppose this. They want a dreanei RP subforum, give them a dreanei RP subforum. Everyone can request their own thing in the story-section anyway. It's the same thing ,imo.

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Post by Cathee Norris Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:55 pm

No, it is not empty. But it matters little, the groups are going to get reformed shortly. Just got to wait some days and get a few responses.
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Post by Nayan Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:27 pm

As Sai said, we're looking into it. Would be appreciated if people weren't waving Don Quixote banners around, failing to even read properly or have their facts straight. Smile
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