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Post by Melnerag Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:21 pm

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/game/lore/leader-story/velen/1#readmode

I dislike the style of writing, even narrative isn't that good but the themes explored are pretty cool. Conclusion is also interessting. Yay.
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Post by Magaskawee/Anaei Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:36 pm

Why do they keep trying to make the Draenei relevant..

GO HOME DRAENEI! GO HOME! *holds up placard*
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Post by Thelos Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:47 pm

Anaei/Vezullia wrote:Why do they keep trying to make the Draenei relevant..

GO HOME DRAENEI! GO HOME! *holds up placard*

I don't like you.
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Post by Lorainne/Bridlington Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:48 pm

Anaei/Vezullia wrote:Why do they keep trying to make the Draenei relevant..

GO HOME DRAENEI! GO HOME! *holds up placard*

Agreed.
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Post by Lexgrad Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:52 pm

I imagine Thelos nursing a semi as he saw this thread :DDD
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Post by Melnerag Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:56 pm

But the Draenei -are- relevant! Without us you will NOT have that amazing settlement in the Swamp of Sorrows, or that amazing questchain in Borean Tundra and you will not get to see A'dal save a fallen Crusader!

Without us, Pandas would have invaded Stormwind in the Burning Crusade. Would you have wanted for that to happen? WOULD YOU?
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Post by Thelos Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:57 pm

The story was inoffensive in the worst way. It was predictable and safe, not taking any risks whatsoever.

I guess a shocker could be that the Exodar is operational, I guess? The rest was just...Well, there. It was draenei. Inoffensive and predictable.

There really isn't much to discuss.
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Post by Lexgrad Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:37 pm

Well the biggest shock was that there was talk of the LK and of the Cataclysm. How does it feel Belfs, you are now bottom of the pile with Murlocs. Even Vy'Kul get more than you :DDD
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Post by itsy Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:55 pm

"LOOK HOW AWESOME ANDUIN IS LOOK LOOK LOOOOK"
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Post by Lexgrad Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:59 pm

Anduin reminded me of Harry Potter some who. I put a quid on KJ trying to kill him and the spell backfiring.
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Post by Rmuffn Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:22 pm

I rather liked this one. Surprised
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Post by Sanara Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:33 pm

Boring and pointless mostly, but also sort of offensively stupid.

Why was Maraad in this story when his presence achieved nothing? Did we just need another random name thrown in to remind people that it's a WarCraft story?

Why was Velen paralyzed by having a fairly simple choice ahead of him when he's had thousands of equally difficult choices in the past?

Why are the Draenei apparently governed by a council consisting entirely of soldiers? Are they fascists now?

Why does Anduin need to save Velen from his own incompetence? Why was he the main Point of View character?

Why did we need an "action scene" thrown in? Couldn't the point be made without it?

Why are Draenei emotionless vulcans? There's a difference between serene calm and complete lack of investment.

Ugh. I knew this story was going to be shit, but at least it doesn't fuck with Draenei lore. (what little there is)
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Post by Magaskawee/Anaei Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:36 pm

Thelos wrote:The story was inoffensive in the worst way. It was predictable and safe, not taking any risks whatsoever.

I guess a shocker could be that the Exodar is operational, I guess? The rest was just...Well, there. It was draenei. Inoffensive and predictable.

There really isn't much to discuss.

SEE?! It works! And still they mooch off our planet and TEK OR JEBS! DEY TEK OR JEBS!

Draenei out! Draenei out!
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Post by Yarnaat Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:40 pm

Anaei/Vezullia wrote:Draenei out! Draenei out!

No, no, heretics out, heretics out! *Smashes Anaei with the large crystallic hammer*
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Post by Odgan / Keag Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:45 pm

Found it rather annoying that most of the story was about Anduin, and not about well.. Velen.
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Post by Ishap/Virock Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:35 pm

I liked the idea that Anduin will eventually have a large part to play in the war against the Burning Legion in an invasion of Azeroth
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Post by Magnir Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:33 am

Urrgh Im getting sick of having Anduin forced down my throat lately.

The story was terrible IMO. I agree completely with Sanara and also the OP about the horrible writing style. Sometimes I had to read things twice to fully understand what it was saying.
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Post by Amaryl Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:06 am

I liked the part where Velen said: I alone see the path, and I alone share it with those who follow the Light

Followed by: Well yes, the cataclysm is terrible, but well our war is so much more important, that I didn't bother tell a messenger to write it down, because in the past two months I really did fight across multiple worlds against the burning legion!


Love that "Our War" Is more important then your petty world Very Happy

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Post by Rmuffn Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:43 am

Amaryl wrote:I liked the part where Velen said: I alone see the path, and I alone share it with those who follow the Light

Followed by: Well yes, the cataclysm is terrible, but well our war is so much more important, that I didn't bother tell a messenger to write it down, because in the past two months I really did fight across multiple worlds against the burning legion!


Love that "Our War" Is more important then your petty world Very Happy

Something he learned to change opinion of. Very Happy Progress of a character. Which I believe these stories are for, and he's surely a hard character to depict, so Anduin was rather needed imo.

And there was nothing wrong with the writing style, wut? (Aiming that at whoever said it, not Amy.)
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Post by Melnerag Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:41 am

Oh, there certainly was. Its hard to put a finger on unless you've read/written a lot but it is clear.
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Post by Rmuffn Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:05 pm

If it was so clear I'd notice. I saw no problems whatsoever in any way or fashion.
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Post by Amaryl Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:13 pm

Well the draenei were depicted far more "own people first!" then simply arrogant then I imagine them to be. For a race that's all about saving worlds and their people from the burning crusade, they were more dismissive of the people they're supposed to be saving then, arrogant for being their saviors.

The story read like a bad fan-fiction ofcourse, just like 90% of these tales. where saying a draenei is crying means the situation must be really sad lol, because the Velen said a sentence!

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Post by Velynia Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:49 pm

I just read it. It isn't as bad as it could have been, though I'm no Draenei-Lore fan, so I'm unsure just how much Lore it mutilates, if any.
However, as people have said - Why was it about Anduin, more than Velen? Though my biggest gripe was with them planning to just lift off the Exodar. I understand why they would want to do it, but I'd expect such an age-old, wise race to discuss such a thing first, for Fel's sake!
Anduin was out of place. I mean, I understand why he was present, but why was the Story about -him-?! Why did some teenager educate Velen, one of the oldest and most respected beings alive?! It seems to just be a half-baked attempt to make Anduin look 'kewl'.
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Post by Drustai Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:44 am

Amaryl wrote:Well the draenei were depicted far more "own people first!" then simply arrogant then I imagine them to be. For a race that's all about saving worlds and their people from the burning crusade, they were more dismissive of the people they're supposed to be saving then, arrogant for being their saviors.

The story read like a bad fan-fiction ofcourse, just like 90% of these tales. where saying a draenei is crying means the situation must be really sad lol, because the Velen said a sentence!

That's because all of these are bad fan fiction, including the novels. They're written by poor authors who have no sense of pacing or characterization, and then elevated to official status.


I'm not even bothering to read this one. From the reviews I see here, it doesn't sound like it's worth it.

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Post by Coppersocket Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:49 am

Fuck Velen, read Mekkatroque's instead, it's actually good.
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