Hated Draenei

Tnecniw wrote:I am wanting to have a Draenei character that is hated... but she herself haven't really done anything... She is smiple a spider loving (near addiction) Draenei woman who was when she was younger hated for her being herself... But... I am still trying to find a reason for her to be hated...

Tnecniw wrote:I have had the idea that maybe her father would have been a an Erodar and her mother a Draenei or something

Tnecniw wrote:Sanara: my reason is cause I think it would be a cool character thing

Sanara wrote:

Tnecniw wrote:Sanara: my reason is cause I think it would be a cool character thing

Well I'll be honest, it probably wouldn't be. "She's hated by her people for no reason" doesn't achieve much more than cheap, one-dimensional angst which makes for a very dull character people will probably rather avoid than RP with.

Sanara wrote:why?

Sanara wrote:

Sanara wrote:why?

Amaryl wrote:just ignore Sanara, we all do

There's a problem here really; its cool to have a "background story", but people that you are going to RP with don't know that story, don't care about that story, and ultimately are going to base their opinion on your character based on the interaction they have with her/him and not based on the supposed background story.

Sure you could be an eredar sympathizing bitch during the millenia of exile and shunned for it, because it is cool, but how will that affect your character in the now? all the draenei RPers you'll meet won't know this, and they won't adjust their RP because of your background story. Additionally;  nobody is going to either A. read a history on an RSP, or B alter their opinion in the positive oocly, if whispered about it.

Which leaves only one thing that matters with your character's background; How does being disliked/shunned/hated/whatevs, determines how your character acts now.  Is she shy? is she quick to anger and to lash out, has she become really fucking devout beyond the normalcy of her race, to prove himself? has he decided to become a goth kid full of teenangst?

Those are the only things that really matter when deciding background. How has my character gained this personality? and what skills/knowledge does he have from the get go.

If you understand that; the actual reason why is quite meaningless, just the fact is important. It can give a character an arc, and idea, a goal to follow. but i hope that beyond the effect on the personality you understand that it will have no influence on your RP with others.

that said i don't care enough about draenei lore to figure out a decent reason.

Tnecniw wrote:

Sanara wrote:

Sanara wrote:why?

Yeah.. Why... WHY... WHY do you want things? I just think it would be a good story... and I am asking both you and everyone else on this forum if they would know any ideas WHY she would not be accepted or even hated... I am aware that this is the internet and people are assholes... But I am only asking for any ideas on WHY she wouldn't be accepted. and I SAY THIS AGAIN! I WANT IT BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD STORY ARC FOR HER! is that good enough of an answer?

Tnecniw wrote:

So does anyone else have any ideas for a reason? I am still searching for a reason she wasn'r accepted in the Draenei people as younger, a reason she don't know or don't understand herself...

Muzjhath wrote:On the "One parent having gone with the Eredar"

I think that pretty much all living Draenei has a family member that did. Since the majority did. So that alone wouldn't be enough.

Amaryl wrote:Like romeo and juliet, or like the shaved post WW2 women?

Skarain wrote:Being hated for no reason whatsoever is tricky. You would either have to done something horrifying, or -be- something horrifying or worth hating. Being a Draenei who hangs around Orcs, as Koz suggested, or The Forlorn Cartel (thugs of Stormwind) are ways of being hated for your race. Elsewhere, you are unlikely to encounter racists.

I do advice against Half-Eredar, since such does not exist in lore. As said earlier, they are the same race, but the uncorrupted Eredar turned to call themselves Draenei "Exiled Ones", while the corrupted turned Man'ari* Eredar.
(*refers to something that is hideously and fundamentally wrong)

You don't have to be Man'ari Eredar (Demon) to be hated. You could be a Draenei who turned into Fel magic for ???? reasons (could be traumatized/insane/weirdo/whatever-reason to turn into such Magics). Warlocks are mistrusted and hated no matter where they go, so turning your back to the Light and embracing Fel is a sure way to get rejected by your People. While Draenei can't pick the Warlock class, you can use Non-combat pet Demons to represent things as an Imp.

Warlocks are not necessarily evil. Well... not in the "I want to destroy the world, kill puppies, desecrate all good and holy!" way. Warlocks however are willing to sacrifice, both themselves and lives and souls of others (Soul Shards) in order to accomplish their goal. Such an act is evil, but the Warlock in question may see it differently. "A few measly lives for the greater good".

Do note: Other Draenei might want to kill you IC for turning into Fel, if you reject their offer for "redemption" (being taken back to the Light).

erwtenpeller wrote:Wellsworth sure thinks it's unholy. Spiders are evil.

Zaraj wrote:First advice would be to ignore most of what the draenei roleplayers say that the draenei are supposed to be like, as they most of the time are just dickwads, something that might've been shown here. (which is ironic, seeing as im going to leave a few tips here)

My advice would be pretty much "go do the draenei quests and some outland quests pertaining to draenei culture and then make what you want of draenei culture." You could also read the wowpedia draenei article, although take the parts from the RPG book with a heavy grain of salt, as they are considered non-canon.

However, the problem with this becomes that the contrasts shown within draenic society in Warcraft are pretty black and white. The outcasts are pretty much the Eredar, who are just goofballs evil, and the Auchenai cult who are draenei caretakers who have been corrupted by shadow and are also goofballs evil. Then there are broken and the normal draenei, who are portrayed as lightie-lightie good guys. So creating something in between can be tricky.

The obvious reason for antipathy would be to disagree with Velen and the Naaru, but still hate the Eredar and the rest of the draenei. Considered they are revered and essentially worshipped, that wouldn't really go down to well with the rest of draenei society.

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In this short story, for instance, there are some leaders amongst the draenei who are sort of bothered with how distant Velen is, and decide to make decisions on their own, showing that there could be some frustrations with how he leads, for instance.

Then you could have the fact that draenei might see themselves a bit wiser and experienced than most other races, and would embrace a more stoic attitude. An easy, fun going draenei who likes throwing parties might not be too popular as well. Then again, there are a lot of draenei comedic reliefs, so who knows.

As for spiders, well... It could sort of be like how some draenei despise shamanism and view it as inferior to the Light. So maybe draenei in general might dislike "naturalism", seeing as they don't have druids, for instance. Perhaps your character admire how spiders work in nature, considering they aren't really altruistic or giving. Certain spider babies, after all, swarm their mother and devour her. The Spider female eats the Spider male, and weird stuff like that. Depending on how god damned nuts your character is, maybe you feel that the general morality pervading draenei society is useless and all you care about are feeding your spider children. Why your draenei would think like that might take a bit of backstory.