Formal address

by **Gahalla** Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:56 pm

Formal adress is how you refer to people when on duty or in formal occasions, such as international meetings and such. It often looks very fancy and can give roleplaying a slightly proffesional atmosphere... but how exactly do one use formal adress?

Everyone is no doubt familiar with sir/madam/mr/miss/mrs, but which ones are to be used for individuals in official positions?

I thought I'd compile a list for this purpose, a help in finding out how to adress each others and important npcs. Most of these will apply to the alliance and the forsaken and Blood elves. I'm not sure if the other horde races would use them.

This is no more than a suggestion for a tool. Not to force anything on anyone.

Monarchs

Monarchs are typically referred to as "Royal majesty" followed by their tile and first name and an indication to which monarch of this name it is. Family name is only ever included when reciting the full set of titles. When speaking to the monarch the adress is "your Royal Majesty"

His/her Royal Majesty

, first/second/third/etc. of that name

Examples:
His Royal Majesty King Varian, first of that name
Your Royal Majesty

His Royal Majesty King Magni, first of that name
Your Royal Majesty

Her Royal Majesty Queen Saihna, first of that name
Your Royal Majesty (I suppose queen could be replaced with Kingdom of Arathor's own title, Shar, but internationally queen would be used)

A special case would be Sylvanas, the banshee queen. The forsaken would probably put their own spin on it and I suggest:

Her Eternal Majesty Queen Sylvanas
Your Eternity

Another special case would be the Regent-lord of Quel'Thalas, Lor'Themar Teron. He isn't king (yet) and as such cannot be adressed as neither Royal nor Majesty. Instead he should be adressed as Regent lord and highness.

His Highness Lord-Regent Lor'Themar Teron
Your Highness

Royalty
When refering to non-ruling members of royalty, the adress is Royal Highness followed by title and name. Here the given name and the surname is to be used. No distinction is made between heirs and members who will not inherit

His/her Royal Highness

Examples:
His Royal Highness Prince Anduin Wrynn
Your Royal Highness

Her Royal Highness Princess Moira Bronzebeard
Your Royal Highness

His Royal Highness Prince Throran Trollbane
Your Royal Highness

Elected leaders and councillors
First up here we have the High tinkerer, which is the only elected soverreign in Azeroth. He is essentially a president, possibly elected king if he actually sits for life (but nothing indicates this at all). Typically elected leaders would be refered to as excellency or serenity, but I wonder if brilliance wouldn't fit better for gnomes. Seeing that they're elected based on their inventions.
So:

The Most Brilliant High Tinkerer Gelbin Mekkatorque
Your Brilliance

Continuing with gnomes, the members of the Tinker's court would be referred to as Honourable Gearholders followed by their surname. This is especially important among gnomes since many of them earn their surname, rather than being born with it. In Oral adress they can be refered to as both the moniker or the title So:

The Honourable Gearholder

Example:
The Honourable Gearholder Aerovelociticator II
Her Honour Gearholder Aerovelociticator II
Your Honour "or" Gearholder (Joliwa, in case anyone wonders)

The dwarven senators are refered to as Senators, sometimes in referential adress their function is added as well. It is their clanname which one is supposed to use. The High chancellor is an exception in that the adress is Excellency

Senator
or
Senator-Justice - High Judge
Senator-Constable - arms
Senator-Marshall - war
Senator-Ambassador - Foreign relations
Senator-Reverend - religion
Senator-Legislator - Law
Senator-Elder - Hearth

Examples:
Senator Irondawn "or" Senator-Marshall Irondawn
Senator

His Excellency High Chancellor Dragonback
Your Excellency (Drengi)

Stormwind ministers, like their gnomish and dwarven counterparts are refered to with their surnames and as Honourable ministers. The exception is possibly the minister of war who could possibly be refered to as High Constable.

The honourable minister
High Constable

Example:
The Honourable Minister Taylen
Her Honour Minister Taylen
Your Honour (Lilath)

High Constable Angelos
High Constable (Geldar)

Religious leaders and priests
The church of the Holy Light, unlike the christian church, does not preach of a all powerful creator but of inner divinity and following a path of betterment. As such father is not a very appropriate adress in my meaning. Instead I suggest using guidance for priests, grace for bishops and illuminated for the Archbishop. Again, surnames

Examples:
Her guidance Laurena
Your Guidance

His Grace Bishop Withertorpe (Fortesgue)
Your Grace

The Illuminated Archbishop Faol
Your Illumination

In the sisterhood of Elune, the title is probably priestess or high priestess followed by the surname. The oral address is Sister for all members of the priesthood and the sentinel. Except in Tyrande's case, where it is High Priestess. To every non-member of the orders the oral address is Priestess(or in the rare male cases: priest).

Priestess

Examples:
High Priestess Whisperwind
High Priestess

Military
Quite simple, most of us already know. Rank and Surname. In the case where the rank is unknown, it is customary to assume it is higher than yours and thus use sir/ma'am.

Example:
High Marshall Thunderbelly
Sir (lower rank), High marshall (Higher or equal rank) (Dorik)

Knights are of course refered to according to their noble title. Either the surname or the fief may be used.

Ducal Highness (dukes)
Highness (counts, viscounts, margraves, earls)
Lordship (Lords, barons and other landowning lower nobility titles)
Sire (non-landowning noble)

The Sentinels also use Sister between one another, to a non-sentinel however the adress is Sentinel.

Nobility
The nobility has an entire repertoaire of addresses to use. Virtually impossible to summarize or generalise. In broad strokes however one can summarize the system with 5 levels of nobility. Royalty (which was covered above), Dukes and princes (non-royal princes that is), high nobility, low nobility and knights. Peerage, as the system is called, is essentially a pyramid or ladder in the same style as corporate ladders or military chain of command. The higher up you are, the more responsibility you have and thus a special address is required.

Dukes and Princes (and highlord), the princely titles as they are called, are refered to by others as Highnesses. The head of the house is always refered to by first name and/or the name of their fief. If only the latter is used, ducal or princely is added before highness (both genders). The other members of his family (and not the entire house) are refered to by by title, name and house name (surname).
Note: Only the head of the house, his/her consort and his/her heir may be titles duke/duchess/prince/princess. The other familymembers will still be styled highness but without the title, as long as they still serve that house (more on that below).
Noone ever loses the title though, so the duke's mother is still duchess even if her husband (the duke's father) is dead.

His/her Ducal/Princely Highness or His/her highness , the duke/duchess/prince/princess of

His/her Highness, <name> of house <housename><br /><br /><i>Example:<br />His Highness Thorain, duke of Redridge "or" His Ducal Highness Redridge<br />Your highness<br /><br />Her Highness, the duchesss Sarah of house Redridge<br />Your highness</i> (the couple is made up by me as an example)<br /><br />The higher nobility can neatly be summed up as any noble who has more land than can be crossed in a single day. They are direct vassals to princes or dukes (or to the king, who practically is a duke or prince who have the fealty of other dukes and princes). The most commonly known of these titles is the count. They are referred to as Highnesses, but with no style (such as royal, ducal, princely) in front. For the head of the house it is first name followed by title, for the other members of the family it is title and name followed by house name.<br />Note: Only the head of the house, his/her spouse and heir (and previous holders of the title) is referred to with the title itself. The others remain highnesses as long as they remain in that house.<br /><br />His/her Highness, <first name> count/margrave/viscount of <fief><br /><br />His/her Highness, the <title> <name> of house <house name><br /><br /><i>Example:<br />Her Highness Anora, countess of Eastvale<br />Your Highness<br /><br />His Highness count James of House Eastvale<br />Your Highness<br /><br />His Highness, Hafver of House Eastvale<br />Your Highness</i><br /><br />The lower nobility are entrusted with the running of important keeps, fortresses and settlements. They are always appointed, but most lower noble titles are de facto heriditary (and their liege just confirms it when it is inherited). The style is Lordship or ladyship followed by title, name and housename. Again, same rule applies that it is only the head of the house, his/her spouse and the heir which hold the actual title. <br /><br />His/her lordship/ladyship, <title> <name> of house <housename><br /><br /><i>Example:<br />His Lordship, baron Garon of House Stormcrow<br />Your Lordship</i><br /><br />Landless nobles, are all those nobles who will not inherit or who have been promoted to nobility but not given any land. They are the lowest of in rank regardless of birth, but many heirless sons/daughters of dukes tend to have consierable influence and are often given a county or such within their fathers/mothers realm. The style is the same as their parents as long as they remain in that house, but most seek service within other houses as retainers. Serving another house as knights. <br />Their style then becomes Sir/Dame followed by name and then knight followed by which house or realm they serve. The latter depends on how they serve, a knight can serve as a personal guard of a noble at which point it is house name that is refered to. Or they can serve by helping to administer and protect the fief, at which point the style is of the fiefs name (collectively known as knights of the realm).<br />Knights can also serve in the kings army at which point the style ends with "knight in the King's service" or in a knightly order, such as the Silver Hand, at which point they are refered to as knight of "the order"<br /><br />Sir/Dame <name>, knight of house <housename><br />Sir/Dame <name>, knight of <fief><br />Sir/Dame <name>, knight in the King's service/ of <order><br /><br /><i>Example:<br />Sir Rakhor, Knight of House Stormcrow<br />Sir</i><br /><br />There's also a special number of addresses within a house. The retainers, which include the knights, the artisans employed by the house, the stewards, the tax collectors, the justicars, the head of the household, the chamberlain, the huntsmaster, the master of arms (chief weapons instructor), the master of horse (chief riding instructor), the head-servants and anyone else with a voice of authority in the employ of the house may all adress each others as sir/madam and are to be addressed with "milord and milady" by the house's subjects (the ones living on your land) and servants (the ones in the employ of the retainers).<br /><br />The noble family itself may also be adressed as "milord and milady" by their subjects, servants and retainers and the head of the house is "my liege"... when responding. Formal address is used in greetings. <br />"Good morning" "Good morning your highness" "Nice weather today" "Yes, milord"<br /><br />Vassals address their lieges as "my liege" but noone else. A count <u>may not</u> address the kings as "my liege" unless he is his direct liege. <br /><br />Another note is that a noble house is first and formost an insitution and a family second. Calling your parents father and mother once you are of age (age seven and up) is considered <u>very inappropriate</u> and <u>very informal</u>. It is accepted if you respond to a direct order ("yes, father") but addressing them as "father" or "mother" in a greeting publicly is very frowned upon.<br />On a day to day basis, at home, with noone else there noone will care. In court, in the field or when you have guests however.... <br /><br /><strong>Magi</strong><br />There's three main "ranks" of magi, the apprentice, the mage and the archmage. The apprentice has no particular adress, but magi and archmagi do. A magi, which by definition is a fully trained mage, is refered to as magus. An Archmage however is refered to as arcane Magnificence. As usual, it's surnames that is to be used<br /><br />Magus <surname><br />His/her Arcane Magnificence<br /><br /><i>Example:<br />His Arcane Magnificence Vargoth<br />Your Magnificence</i><br /><br />The Sin'Dorei have their own style, as is only befitting for elves, based around magister/magistrix. <u>Fully trained</u> mages and warlocks, that belong to the magisters (which would be most of them, would be as magisters for males and magistrix (magistrices in plural) for women. Followed by surname.<br /><br /><i>Example:<br />Magister Selamne<br />Magister</i><br /><br /><i>Credit goes to Kristeas for the Sin'Dorei titles.</i><br /><br /><strong>Justice</strong><br />Naturally, the juridiciary branch of society has its own form. All judges are Honourable Judges. I don't think anyone is surprised if I say that one is supposed to use surnames here.<br /><br />Honourable judge <Surname><br /><br /><i>Example:<br />The Honourable judge Tomebinder<br />Your Honour</i> (Terenor)<br /><br /><br />---<br /><br />So, What do you all think? Did I forget something, do you disagree on something? Help me make this into a useful tool for all of us.</div></div><br /><br />Last edited by Gahalla on Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:08 pm; edited 3 times in total</div><div class="postprofile" id="profile364"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/h/a.imageshack.us/img718/8868/folkung.jpg" alt="Gahalla" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#2F50D6"><strong>Gahalla</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 495<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-01-30<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 35<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Location</span> : </span> Stockholm, Sweden<br /><br /><strong>Character sheet</strong><br /><span class="gen">Name</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-name">Gahalla rose</span><br /><span class="gen">Title</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-title">Doctor</span></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p365" class="post row1 post--365" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; 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top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="371"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Formal address Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t53-formal-address#371">Re: Formal address</a></h2><p class="author"><img class="sprite-icon_post_target" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by <span style="color:#616161"><strong>Jakins</strong></span> Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:14 pm</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div>These are nice, the only problem I see right now is the lack of Horde putting things like these up.<br /><br />The board is dominated by Alliance stuff right now.</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile371"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/77-98.png" alt="Jakins" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#616161"><strong>Jakins</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 1138<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-01-30<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 36<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Location</span> : </span> Inverness, Scotland<br /></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p372" class="post row2 post--372" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; 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Moar horde contributions plox! Don't be shy people!</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile372"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/1-4.jpg" alt="Cathee Norris" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#2E2E80"><strong>Cathee Norris</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 3266<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-01-28<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 35<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Location</span> : </span> Sweden<br /><br /><strong>Character sheet</strong><br /><span class="gen">Name</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-name">Cathee Piner</span><br /><span class="gen">Title</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-title"></span></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p373" class="post row1 post--373" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; 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The cities don't have any set rules either, which is, in all honesty, pretty fine by me. I suppose it would be good to at least set some obvious Horde rules for the cities, for example, but any further than "Warchief", you won't really get.<br /><br />I'll try and see what can be done about those little matters, at least.</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile387"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/9-24.gif" alt="Kozgugore Feraleye" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#FF0000"><strong>Kozgugore Feraleye</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 910<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-01-28<br /></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> <a href="http://www.orcsoftheredblade.co.uk" title="Visit poster's website" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/prosilver/icon_contact_www.gif" alt="http://www.orcsoftheredblade.co.uk" /></a></dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p397" class="post row1 post--397" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; 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The cities don't have any set rules either, which is, in all honesty, pretty fine by me. I suppose it would be good to at least set some obvious Horde rules for the cities, for example, but any further than "Warchief", you won't really get.<br /><br />I'll try and see what can be done about those little matters, at least.</div></blockquote><br />Yeah the horde just seem very straight forward to me. I imagne something like this: <br /><br />Thug tries to pick pocket an orc. Orc grabs a club and beats the thugs head in. The the orc beats him a couple of times more to be sure he won't try it again and walks of. <br /><br />Horde society seems survival of the fittest to me.</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile406"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/11-45.jpg" alt="Lexius" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#616161"><strong>Lexius</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 437<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-01-28<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Location</span> : </span> Netherlands<br /></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p409" class="post row2 post--409" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="409"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Formal address Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t53-formal-address#409">Re: Formal address</a></h2><p class="author"><img class="sprite-icon_post_target" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by <span style="color:#FF0000"><strong>Kozgugore Feraleye</strong></span> Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:51 pm</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div>Something like that. D; Can't say I'm complaining though. I don't think a lot of orcs would have it in them to abide to a whole lot of set rules like I see the Alliance have. Their minds would explode as a result of overload.</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile409"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/9-24.gif" alt="Kozgugore Feraleye" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#FF0000"><strong>Kozgugore Feraleye</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 910<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-01-28<br /></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> <a href="http://www.orcsoftheredblade.co.uk" title="Visit poster's website" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/prosilver/icon_contact_www.gif" alt="http://www.orcsoftheredblade.co.uk" /></a></dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p441" class="post row1 post--441" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="441"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Formal address Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t53-formal-address#441">Re: Formal address</a></h2><p class="author"><img class="sprite-icon_post_target" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by <span style="color:#FF0000"><strong>Kristeas Sunbinder</strong></span> Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:34 pm</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div>Archmage Sunreaver is (obviously) a Sin'dorei Archmage but he works with the Kirin Tor so who knows. But I think most Mages and Warlocks are spoken to as:<br />Magister <name><br />Magistrix <name><br />And you can't really go wrong with calling a Blood Knight either "Sir" or "Ma'am" if you don't know the actual rank (assuming you're Icly polite).<br />I can't say anything really about Hunters and Priests altough I suppose Ranger <what'sisname> will work and Priest(ess) <yeahyou> will work.<br /><br />Also, I used this ranking system when I was leveling/rping.<br /><br />Squire: 1-11<br />Initiate: 12-19 <br />Adept: 20-29, when I got the blood tempered ranseur.<br />Knight: 30-< According to the TBC level of 60% mount <br />Master: Did the "old school" quest on my own for the tabard.<br /><br />But hey, that's how I used it *shrug*<br /><br />There're also some who rp "Champions" but I don't know how they got there.<br /><br />Enough contribution belf-side now?</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile441"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/90-83.jpg" alt="Kristeas Sunbinder" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#FF0000"><strong>Kristeas Sunbinder</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 4720<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-01-31<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 34<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Location</span> : </span> In Netherlands, Is swedish.<br /><br /><strong>Character sheet</strong><br /><span class="gen">Name</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-name">Kristeas Sunbinder</span><br /><span class="gen">Title</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-title">Operative for Sin Belore</span></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p444" class="post row2 post--444" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="444"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Formal address Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t53-formal-address#444">Re: Formal address</a></h2><p class="author"><img class="sprite-icon_post_target" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by <span style="color:#616161"><strong>Jakins</strong></span> Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:50 pm</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div>Is it worth saying that it's "Address" and not "Adress"? >_><br /><br />I dunno, might just be worth pointing that out.</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile444"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/77-98.png" alt="Jakins" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#616161"><strong>Jakins</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 1138<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-01-30<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 36<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Location</span> : </span> Inverness, Scotland<br /></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p20244" class="post row1 post--20244" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="20244"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Formal address Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t53-formal-address#20244">Re: Formal address</a></h2><p class="author"><img class="sprite-icon_post_target" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by <span style="color:#616161"><strong>Aleric</strong></span> Mon May 24, 2010 11:44 am</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div><blockquote><div><cite>Jakins wrote:</cite>Is it worth saying that it's "Address" and not "Adress"? >_><br /><br />I dunno, might just be worth pointing that out.</div></blockquote><br />That bothered me as well <_<<br /><br />Anyway, great initiative Gahalla. Thanks for putting these up.</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile20244"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/343-8.jpg" alt="Aleric" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#616161"><strong>Aleric</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 378<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-04-29<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 39<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Location</span> : </span> Luleå, Sweden<br /><br /><strong>Character sheet</strong><br /><span class="gen">Name</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-name">Sir Aleric Dylain</span><br /><span class="gen">Title</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-title">Knight</span></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p20248" class="post row2 post--20248" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="20248"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Formal address Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t53-formal-address#20248">Re: Formal address</a></h2><p class="author"><img class="sprite-icon_post_target" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by <span style="color:#FF0000"><strong>Saevir</strong></span> Mon May 24, 2010 11:55 am</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div><blockquote><div><cite>Gahalla wrote:</cite><br />In the sisterhood of Elune, the title is probably priestess or high priestess followed by the surname. What the oral adress would be I am actually not certain about. Any suggestions?<br /><br />Priestess <Name><br /><br /><i>Examples:<br />High Priestess Whisperwind<br /></i><br /></div></blockquote><br />I would think that they'd use "Sister" too, like the Sentinels. At least I vaguely remember that originally during the War of the Ancients, Sentinels were in fact Priestesses of Elune, or at least a subset of them that were skilled at archery and participated in wars.</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile20248"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/205-37.jpg" alt="Saevir" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#FF0000"><strong>Saevir</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 1134<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-02-15<br /><br /><strong>Character sheet</strong><br /><span class="gen">Name</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-name">Saevir Dawnseeker</span><br /><span class="gen">Title</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-title">Sage</span></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p20257" class="post row1 post--20257" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; 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I do so love proper manners. /nod</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile20265"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/219-28.jpg" alt="Magaskawee/Anaei" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#FF0000"><strong>Magaskawee/Anaei</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 2882<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-02-18<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 34<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Location</span> : </span> Northern Ireland<br /><br /><strong>Character sheet</strong><br /><span class="gen">Name</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-name">Magaskawee Grimtotem</span><br /><span class="gen">Title</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-title">Elder Crone of the Banner of the Bloodhoof</span></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p20267" class="post row1 post--20267" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; 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Much love! <3</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile33971"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/219-28.jpg" alt="Magaskawee/Anaei" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#FF0000"><strong>Magaskawee/Anaei</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 2882<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-02-18<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 34<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Location</span> : </span> Northern Ireland<br /><br /><strong>Character sheet</strong><br /><span class="gen">Name</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-name">Magaskawee Grimtotem</span><br /><span class="gen">Title</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-title">Elder Crone of the Banner of the Bloodhoof</span></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p39259" class="post row1 post--39259" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="39259"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Formal address Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t53-formal-address#39259">Re: Formal address</a></h2><p class="author"><img class="sprite-icon_post_target" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by <span style="color:#616161"><strong>Valerias</strong></span> Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:19 am</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div>Hrm, question of titles on which I'd like some input. In a noble household - not royalty, but that in which the head of the house's title is 'Lord' or 'Lady' - what do you call the children or the brothers and sisters? Those who are still nobles of the house, but not head of the house? I would assume 'Sir' and 'Lady,' because 'Miss/Mistress' doesn't seem right for a noblewoman, but erh, thoughts?</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile39259"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/142-49.png" alt="Valerias" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#616161"><strong>Valerias</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 1945<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-02-02<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 37<br /><br /><strong>Character sheet</strong><br /><span class="gen">Name</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-name">'Lady' Vale</span><br /><span class="gen">Title</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-title">courtesan</span></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p39260" class="post row2 post--39260" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="39260"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Formal address Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t53-formal-address#39260">Re: Formal address</a></h2><p class="author"><img class="sprite-icon_post_target" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by <span style="color:#2F50D6"><strong>Gahalla</strong></span> Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:26 am</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div>All noble children have the title of knight or lady (unless they inherit/recieve a title of their own). So it would be sir or lady as you say. <br /><br />Unless, they are adressed by their family's subjects/vassals, at which point is is milord or milady (wheras the head of the house is liege, as in "my liege").</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile39260"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/h/a.imageshack.us/img718/8868/folkung.jpg" alt="Gahalla" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#2F50D6"><strong>Gahalla</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 495<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-01-30<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 35<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Location</span> : </span> Stockholm, Sweden<br /><br /><strong>Character sheet</strong><br /><span class="gen">Name</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-name">Gahalla rose</span><br /><span class="gen">Title</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-title">Doctor</span></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p39264" class="post row1 post--39264" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="39264"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Formal address Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t53-formal-address#39264">Re: Formal address</a></h2><p class="author"><img class="sprite-icon_post_target" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by <span style="color:#FF0000"><strong>Magaskawee/Anaei</strong></span> Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:49 am</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div><blockquote><div><cite>Gahalla wrote:</cite>All noble children have the title of knight or lady (unless they inherit/recieve a title of their own). So it would be sir or lady as you say. <br /><br />Unless, they are adressed by their family's subjects/vassals, at which point is is milord or milady (wheras the head of the house is liege, as in "my liege").</div></blockquote><br />This is pretty much your answer, highlighting titles of their own. Many truly noble houses will have perhaps a Duke as the head of the household, however their heir may be a viscount. It's important to find out such.</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile39264"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/219-28.jpg" alt="Magaskawee/Anaei" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#FF0000"><strong>Magaskawee/Anaei</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 2882<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-02-18<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 34<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Location</span> : </span> Northern Ireland<br /><br /><strong>Character sheet</strong><br /><span class="gen">Name</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-name">Magaskawee Grimtotem</span><br /><span class="gen">Title</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-title">Elder Crone of the Banner of the Bloodhoof</span></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p39268" class="post row2 post--39268" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="39268"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Formal address Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t53-formal-address#39268">Re: Formal address</a></h2><p class="author"><img class="sprite-icon_post_target" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by <span style="color:#616161"><strong>Valerias</strong></span> Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:04 pm</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div>I was asking on behalf of my own family, the Aislinghalls, who happily are not important enough to have complicated titles. Thank you both for your answers, helps a good deal! <3</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile39268"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3314/31/45/28/avatars/142-49.png" alt="Valerias" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#616161"><strong>Valerias</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 1945<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-02-02<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 37<br /><br /><strong>Character sheet</strong><br /><span class="gen">Name</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-name">'Lady' Vale</span><br /><span class="gen">Title</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-title">courtesan</span></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p39279" class="post row1 post--39279" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="39279"></div><div class="postbody"><ul class="profile-icons"><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li><li></li></ul><h2 class="topic-title"><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Formal address Empty" loading="lazy" /> <a href="/t53-formal-address#39279">Re: Formal address</a></h2><p class="author"><img class="sprite-icon_post_target" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" /> by <span style="color:#2F50D6"><strong>Gahalla</strong></span> Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:44 pm</p><div class="clearfix"></div><div style="display:none"></div><div class="content clearfix"><div><blockquote><div><cite>Anaei/Vezullia wrote:</cite><br />This is pretty much your answer, highlighting titles of their own. Many truly noble houses will have perhaps a Duke as the head of the household, however their heir may be a viscount. It's important to find out such.</div></blockquote><br />Not exactly Anaei. A noble will in addition to his title, in your example Duke, also holds the titles of all fiefs in his realm not held by anyone else. These titles is his to give away to anyone he pleases in return for an oath of fealty, like say: his heir. But they won't automatically inherit them, they only get those titles once their liege grants them that title. <br /><br />In your example with the heir, his/her father the duke granted him the title of viscount/-ess in his duchy. The heir will then become the lord of the viscounty and the vassal of his/her father. This generally also mean they leave their fathers household and create a new one. When the duke dies however, they'll become duke and the title of viscount can be given to the next heir (or kept, or be given to someone else). <br /><br />If the duke has no titles to give (they're held by others) or refuses to give them, his son and daughters will remain at the lowest noble title (knight/lady) until they inherit the title of duke.</div></div></div><div class="postprofile" id="profile39279"><dl><dt><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/h/a.imageshack.us/img718/8868/folkung.jpg" alt="Gahalla" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><strong style="font-size:1.2em"><span style="color:#2F50D6"><strong>Gahalla</strong></span></strong></dt><dd></dd><dd class="dd_award left"></dd><dd class="award_more"></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Posts</span> : </span> 495<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Join date</span> : </span> 2010-01-30<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Age</span> : </span> 35<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#222222;">Location</span> : </span> Stockholm, Sweden<br /><br /><strong>Character sheet</strong><br /><span class="gen">Name</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-name">Gahalla rose</span><br /><span class="gen">Title</span>: <span class="gen" id="rpg-title">Doctor</span></dd><dd><br /></dd><dd> </dd></dl></div><div class="clear"></div><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="13px" height="13px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div><p class="right"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_prosilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></p><span class="corners-bottom"><span></span></span></div></div><div id="p134418" class="post row2 post--134418" style=""><div class="inner"><span class="corners-top"><span></span></span><div style="position: relative; 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