Question on Mortwake's Tower in Westfall

Has anyone claimed Mortwakes tower IC for rp? If not then does anyone RP at that tower? Im asking because my guild may have ic interest in that specific location.

What is with people's obsession lately about "claiming" buildings? Wh'ever happened to RP being an open world of free-flowing ideas taking precedence over "I call dibs"? Maybe it's just my impression but I think I can recall a good 4-5 threads about it over the past few months.

Sanara wrote:What is with people's obsession lately about "claiming" buildings? Wh'ever happened to RP being an open world of free-flowing ideas taking precedence over "I call dibs"? Maybe it's just my impression but I think I can recall a good 4-5 threads about it over the past few months.

Now, now. I'm sure they don't mean they are going to 'claim it'. They just don't want to intrude on other people.

As far as I know, the tower is not used, even if it was I am sure you could use it without clashing with a previous occupant, as Sanara said though, avoid saying that you claim it, you simply use it.

I've not seen anyone there.

Sanara, it works well for guilds to own locations as you know where to go to find them and ICly it makes sense.

Aye... but to make it "easier" or to be on the safe side, it works well to assume you "have been granted permission to use this building". IE: the Disciples do not own the Garrison, or City Hall for that matter, but they have been granted permission to use it. Should someone else come along with the same statement, then the cooperation can be worked out ICly instead of needing to debate who's right OOCly.

Jeanpierre/Ragnilde wrote:Aye... but to make it "easier" or to be on the safe side, it works well to assume you "have been granted permission to use this building". IE: the Disciples do not own the Garrison, or City Hall for that matter, but they have been granted permission to use it. Should someone else come along with the same statement, then the cooperation can be worked out ICly instead of needing to debate who's right OOCly.

This really.

However, it applies more to locations that have the potential to be of frequent use. Where this tower is concerned, I'm unsure whether I've ever seen a guild/group of people make any potential claim. So, really, either way works for this location. Just use it

o/ Hai Lil!

If you roleplay there regularly, making it a Rp hub of its own, like Westbrook Garrison (Disciples), Pig & Whistle (Blades...well used to >_>) or Northshire Abbey (Chapter) go for it!

(And no, no-one is using it regularly at the moment to my knowledge, so its all yours in my opinion.)

Question...what is the serverlore of the tower? What have it been used for in ages past? Just curious

In terms of server lore, incredibly little. As I said, I can't recall anyone making use of it at all. Though, heck, I've been here for a long time, I've probably forgotten >>'

Skarain wrote:If you roleplay there regularly, making it a Rp hub of its own, like Westbrook Garrison (Disciples), Pig & Whistle (Blades...well used to >_>) or Northshire Abbey (Chapter) go for it!

(And no, no-one is using it regularly at the moment to my knowledge, so its all yours in my opinion.)

Question...what is the serverlore of the tower? What have it been used for in ages past? Just curious

Ledgic Caan wrote:In terms of server lore, incredibly little. As I said, I can't recall anyone making use of it at all. Though, heck, I've been here for a long time, I've probably forgotten >>'

Practically nothing in the server lore, I think every evil person has sorta.. Stopped off there, or met people there, but to my knowledge no one has ever stayed there long term.

Ok...then my guid will attept to get ic permission from the council to use it in the upcomming future...if anyone else uses it we wont have a problem all are welcome to rp and Hi lexy

...For fucks sake, Council doesnt give permission to people for use of buildings etc, why don't people get this already.

This seems like the ship-shit in SW harbour all over again.

Raelan for IC reasons my guild will need permission...we are an Ebon Military order...we use necromany and so on, we are not part of the alliance but neutral.... its only logical we get permission to use a tower within SW land, and for reasons it may interest SW: to have a bunch of dks defending the borders of Westfall far from civilization , wed be fignting cultists worgens and undead that may try to cross the borders of Darkshire to westfall. Also on the necromany part wed need permission to use it to heal dks only and to fight the three types of threats i mentioned above. It will be an intersting attemt to get SW to agree and it would offer rp to my guild and others if we were to achive our goal....

You could just claim the empty tower, inform the minister of defense of your defensive plans with it and try to get minister of magic to approve necromancy for healing (and other), but no need to ask the permission to use tower Ic'ly...its abandoned anyways.

Off topic:
Isn't that tower phased?

No, it isn't. Not unless you're on one specific quest afaik.

Raelan is correct regarding whether you need to ask the council about anything. You're better off just informing us about it.

And uh, with regards to the necromancy and such, if your character wants to be that truthful about it, then by all means, but I really wouldn't suggest even mentioning that xD

nope its phased only when ur doing the pre dm quest

Raelan wrote:...For fucks sake, Council doesnt give permission to people for use of buildings etc, why don't people get this already.

This seems like the ship-shit in SW harbour all over again.

You know you are shouting at a new member to the community with 11 posts and clearly does not know this. Do try to be a bit more pleasant, no need to swear at them.

Thanks for the info. I apreciate the time everyone took to help me on this

Anaei/Vezullia wrote:

Raelan wrote:...For fucks sake, Council doesnt give permission to people for use of buildings etc, why don't people get this already.

This seems like the ship-shit in SW harbour all over again.

You know you are shouting at a new member to the community with 11 posts and clearly does not know this. Do try to be a bit more pleasant, no need to swear at them.

To be fair, Lady Dawn could tear him a new one!

A new member on the forums isn't per se a new member on the server

And I think this is the case here.

Echoing what's been said.

You don't need to ask permission from anyone IC or OOC to use a building. It is nice, however, to inform people you're planning or are using something. That's courteous, and gosh-darnit could also help setting up potential RP (well I never).

"Claiming" you "own" a building is something that I've posted about before. And something that irks me massively. So I won't go further into that.

I'd tread lightly on IC information that states you're taking a tower in the area to slaughter virgins, bathe in the blood of newborns and summoning the dead though... of course you won't be doing any of those things I'm sure. But the pitchfork wielding mob outside don't know that. All they see are monsters (necromancers).

Any necromancy within the borders of the Kingdom of Stormwind (not just the city), even in the tower, would be illegal, unless the Council has given explicit permission that the laws do not apply there (and I imagine they won't give said permission).

Even for healing other undead (I believe the Shroud asked for this right but was denied). Standard healing techniques work on healing undead, therefore there is no reason why Stormwind would permit the use of necromancy to do so.

So be careful on how much you reveal IC.

While truthfully I have little to add to this thread... Necromancy?!