ATTENTION: Regarding <A bunch of Campers>

Now, as some of you may know, this forum has been infiltrated by members of this guild and they are using it to track events and harass them.

So for the forseeable future if your holding events in Contested zones Be prepared and ready to Defend yourself.

Or, simply use the calendar and whisper invite individuals or talk to your guild and fellow guild leaders instead. Some people may not be happy about this, but for the sake of your roleplay i suggest you do so.

This shouldnt be the case for more social events in safer locations, so pay no heed if this doesnt apply to you. I know many people may not be happy about this, or may disagree with me and such, but think about it carefully. and please, do spread the word.

So yeah, Dont Advertise times, locations and such on this forum for the time being until this little spy problem has been rooted out.

Thankyou.

Seriously, now you're giving them too much credit.

I mean, who gives a fuck, all they manage to do is hide on their mounts in the air anyway.

Raelan/Relithien wrote:Seriously, now you're giving them too much credit.

I mean, who gives a fuck, all they manage to do is hide on their mounts in the air anyway.

Evidently, however this is a solution, not a salute or a whine.

Their insider is a RP'er. They're gonna know about events anyway. xD Leave them to it I say. You all seem to be having fun fighting them, or there wouldn't be such an uproar.

Morinth wrote:Their insider is a RP'er. They're gonna know about events anyway. xD Leave them to it I say. You all seem to be having fun fighting them, or there wouldn't be such an uproar.

I imagine the event organisers arent that happy. The point of organisng events is not to have them trashed after a great deal of time planning them.

End of the day man they attacked our event and killed the characters lower than 85 but then got ganked to holy hell by us as soon as we changed to PvP gear, they suck at anything except attacking lowbies and therefore want to grief people because they have small man syndrome or something

They had no problem in wiping a 40-man raid yesterday, nor a 25-man the night before.

It's great that some of you guys have such a lofty view of things, but that's just not the case in reality. Most RPers are crap at PvP, and have shit for gear. The Campers (and Goons and Tides of Misery) are all perfectly capable of ruining events if given the opportunity.

This is stupid. Just report them when they attack and the GM's will ban them or give them some form of slapped wrist. Most will take the hint.

If your aguement is that it is a PVP server and they are within their rights, you would be wrong. I have reported this myself and i was assured that if they were attacking for the sole purpose of disrupting RP then the hammer will come down. Stop fighting back and if we have a 40 man raid doing RP then it will be 40 complaints they cannot and will not ignore.

They are like children, if you show reactions, they will keep on going. Please just kerb this. It is getting stale and leaving me with some form of RP hangover.

Shakiri wrote:This is stupid. Just report them when they attack and the GM's will ban them or give them some form of slapped wrist. Most will take the hint.[

If your aguement is that it is a PVP server and they are within their rights, you would be wrong. I have reported this myself and i was assured that if they were attacking for the sole purpose of disrupting RP then the hammer will come down.

They almost never do anything about it. It's a PvP server and they are within their rights. If you've had a GM take action, then you were simply lucky. The vast majority will simply tell you that they won't do anything.

World PVP is completely within TOS, but Destroying RP becuase you can is against it. It is in TOS clearly that to damage or destroy another players experience is a massive offence. One time would be written off sure, but being constantly attacked is something else.

Shakiri wrote:World PVP is completely within TOS, but Destroying RP becuase you can is against it. It is in TOS clearly that to damage or destroy another players experience is a massive offence. One time would be written off sure, but being constantly attacked is something else.

Nope, GMs will do nothing about it nor will they when you personally report the guild you are in for having a policy of destroying rp communities and events. Yeah I tried that when I was in SoN and the GM advised I move guilds if I didn't like their policies.

Faylum is an attention seeker, keep posting here and on Blizz forum about what they are doing only encourages his infantile behaviour. I also hope that none of the rp guilds will take him up on his plans to make a video to promote Defias when all it will do is promote his guild and be made to show that the rp community is ok with what they do. Incidentally Faylum got a permaban on that character from the forums for his behaviour there last year. It is against the code of conduct to circumvent such a ban by posting in alts or another persons account. Might be nice to remind Blizzard of that fact

Just move the rp to somewhere that it is hard for his guild to get to for a short while and just stop posting about them here and on the Blizz forum.

Don't feed the trolls.

You rolled PvPrealm, you should expect PvP as well. That's how it works. ^^"

Not been on long enough to know the situation with a Bunch of Campers. However, I have spoken to some of their members by chance since returning, I didn't know who they were until they mentioned this. They have neither been rude or uncourteous, and this goes to their benefit. The ones I have spoken to say they do what they do because the rp community isn't at times, the most friendly place in the game.

Of course some may well be Trolls taking a ride on the bandwagon, but the internet is full of Trolls. Part of online life.

However I have been promised that so long as certain small things are met aBoC will disband. I could of course pursue this, and see if, once these terms are met the guild actually disbands or breaks off, they do not seem inclined to pester me (of which I am thankful for) because I have yet to declare some sort of 'war' on them, and will not for intelligences sake. However like many things in the world, it may only fade away to regroup elsewhere but I am sure that with goodwill and time the inside rpers will be less inclined for whatever reason to attack certain individuals events.

Unfortunately, as much as Krogon's advice has its benefits, more than likely trolls/campers will find out regardless. It isn't difficult to find out when events are on, and I believe most campers are quite well organised, and just use the /who to figure out where you and yours are before riding out en force.

Ignoring them too could have its benefits, but a lot of things tend to get worse if you either A: ignore B: aggravate or C: go to great lengths to keep your events hidden etc, because it just reveals to them that their trolling is working.

Just stay calm, go on as normal. And if they attack, well then move elsewhere. Do not show any form of irritation at their actions, do not insult them, and always remember to keep the good air about yourself that you are playing a game.

I've never talked down to these people (I hope I have never talked down to anyone who hasn't proven themselves to be an utter toon already) have been friendly and have always been left alone because of it.

the problem about this is we just had a very good and well planned event going on 25 - 26 febuary, and really it ruined all our chances of cross faction RP, as we were supposed to be attacked by some fel orcs, but they choose to join in aswell as a few from the goon squad, hopefully a GM would look into it as they also kind of ruined our RP in shattrath and they just violated an rule.

And i also know that on defias brotherhood forum's Orqthar or something complained about RP'ers being all emo like and not care about the PvP on this server, yes some of us like to PvP but let us fucking seperate our PvP from our RP atleast.

I think this is actually a good idea. At the very least they won't be able to plan attacks, they'll have to rely on quickly logging an Alliance, doing a bunch of /who's, logging back over if they find a populated zone, telling all their little buddies, they'd then have to travel, find the people and then engage.

The other option, carry on as normal, they'd be able to see the where and when of events in a matter of seconds weeks before it happens.

I vote yes!

(their video atleast shows how upset they are with this option, so at the very least that is a plus!)

Akala wrote:the problem about this is we just had a very good and well planned event going on 25 - 26 febuary, and really it ruined all our chances of cross faction RP, as we were supposed to be attacked by some fel orcs, but they choose to join in aswell as a few from the goon squad, hopefully a GM would look into it as they also kind of ruined our RP in shattrath and they just violated an rule.

It certainly disrupted the first part on the 25th, yes, but we were able to endure all the same. If anything, they solved the problem of the fel orcs having too few numbers... though a bit too far in the other direction! However today on the 26th? I would not put the term 'ruined' there at all. I'd say the attacks were even a nice distraction during that walk back to Shattrath, and their hanging around us in Shattrath did not greatly hurt anything. Sure, they planted some items, and made some emotes, but I've seen Horde (and Alliance) people be far more disruptive than they were.


Don't let yourselves get bothered too much by it. Sure, it caused a bit of hairpulling on the part of Thelos and myself to try and work out ways to limit their interference during the late nights/early mornings in-between the event days (in fact, this was more of a problem than anything they did during the events as it lost me quite a bit of sleep), but I still say the event played out very well regardless. Just relax and don't get too upset over it.

Cracked wrote:A Horde guild proved a lot of the good things people say about online relationships by holding a respectful in-game funeral for a friend who had died in real life, and an Alliance guild, Serenity Now, proved everything else they say by massacring everyone present. As dick moves go, it's effective and tactical: Everyone's clustered together, no one's expecting to fight and you've got one less target than normal.

Proving that the only reason the Internet still exists is because it's not possible to kill other people through computer screens, most people familiar with WoW culture sort of shrugged, and said, "Yeah, they sort of had it coming." The targets were holding their funeral on a PvP (Player-versus-Player) server. The victims could have mourned their friend somewhere besides the middle of the battle field, but instead, they mourned a real tragedy to demand special treatment. This was the closest the Internet gets to real war after all, and you don't see soldiers mourning their dead in the middle of the battle field.

Actually, it turns out real-world soldiers even show more respect for the dead than WoW players. Yes, it was stupid of them to give out their location and advise people they wouldn't be ready to fight without first getting confirmation that everyone was on board with the ceasefire. Yes, they should have known that relying on mutual respect online is like relying on body armor made of beefsteak in a lion enclosure. But if the German and British soldiers managed to hold off on avenging real deaths for an entire week during WWI, we have a tough time siding with the guys who couldn't hold off for an hour in a fake online world.

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And you thought you had it bad?

serenity now, love those guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP-B_BrIwK4&feature=related

This is hilarious as well.

The Bunch of Losers were quite entertaining the other day spamming on trade asking for support to "crash a rp event". Hours later, they kept spamming, making clowns of themselves.

The funniest part of the whole story is I heard one of them used to be a roleplayer until he was ganked/trolled by someone to humiliation. Most likely triggering his "revenge". Its so funny it'd even fit a MRP background.

Iltharen wrote:
The funniest part of the whole story is I heard one of them used to be a roleplayer until he was ganked/trolled by someone to humiliation. Most likely triggering his "revenge". Its so funny it'd even fit a MRP background.

It's happened before that roleplayer fell to the dark side.

Well, no one likes to be bullied

I don't know whats funnier, their gear or their character names.

Meh we have seen these kind of guilds a number of times on Defias, best way to deal with them is to ignore them, then they get tired and move on.

Don't let yourselves get bothered too much by it. Sure, it caused a bit of hairpulling on the part of Thelos and myself to try and work out ways to limit their interference during the late nights/early mornings in-between the event days (in fact, this was more of a problem than anything they did during the events as it lost me quite a bit of sleep), but I still say the event played out very well regardless. Just relax and don't get too upset over it.

i am certainly not saying that the event was all ruined still as i said i enjoyed it as much as the crusade, but the first part where we had to RP as ghosts, it ofcourse was our last option, as you said "dont feed the trolls", but that part i would have been able to fully enjoy in normal form, it was still great.