Re: The "other game thread"

[Kristeas Sunbinder]

/await

[Geneviève]

I loved Guild Wars, I'll but 2 no matter what, simply because it's free. But unless GvGs are still a big thing, rolling a character at max level straight away is still an option, and an RP community, or at the very least a community of players who wouldn't make the villains gallery at Nuremberg look like well adjusted members of society, finally develops, I doubt I'll stay long.

It's a shame because GW was an incredible game, until the expansions (Yes they were nessecary to pay for the servers, but frankly I'd rather have paid £2 a month subscription than be landed with them) caused the developers to lose sight of the goal.

But, frankly, those attack animations/skills look bloody awful...I guess it's too late to say they won't go live? :S

[Muzjhath]

Everywhere I've looked, the characters and story has been described as weak. That, and the setting which is just another medieval Europe clone turned Grimdark will probably keep me from buying it

In all honesty those reviewers are probably the sort who think Lord of the Rings is allegory for Europe at varius points in the 20th centuary. Besides Antiva/Orlais bearing clear resemblance to certain charicaturs of European states I cannot see it.

This may not sound like praise to people who don't appreciate this sort of thing but I'd have bought the game even if there was no combat, just to experiance the cutscenes, conversations, and story.

Some of the characters are weak, but I think people are overly harsh, desperate to find the smallest crack in a game that's prequal was almost universally praised. I myself thought the companions let the game down, compared to the companions in Origins, but some of them are fantastic. I think I'd be less annoyed by the choice of companions if all the irritating ones weren't the ones I'd advise taking for game mechanics reasons.

Oh, I had a lenghty discussion with Daivd Gaider on the Bioware boards about the setting, and he flat out admitted that Ferelden was Scotland, Orlais France and Antiva the italian city states (or, "inspired by"). That's a huge turnoff for me, yet I trudged through DA:O a few times.
Of the DA2 plot, I've read that there isn't a motivating over-arching drama or noticable narrative later in the game, or, if it's there it gets drowned in a flood of sidequests.
I heard something about recycled dungeons as well? That's just poop

I couldln't care one whit about where they got their inspiration for the world. That they have RL inspiration make's things seem more real since they have more easily taken and just shifted facts a bit, instead of having had to come up with a lot all by itself.
No story spoilers, just general plot telling.

Spoiler:

[Unknown]

I'm currently trying to play DA2. And the only goddamn thing thats keeping me from uninstalling that retarded mess of an excuse for an RPG is Varric. Fuck all the other companions. Actually, fuck everyone in the entire game. Fuck them all.

I honestly don't see the problem...yet, I'll continue playing.

[Lavian]

Everywhere I've looked, the characters and story has been described as weak. That, and the setting which is just another medieval Europe clone turned Grimdark will probably keep me from buying it

In all honesty those reviewers are probably the sort who think Lord of the Rings is allegory for Europe at varius points in the 20th centuary. Besides Antiva/Orlais bearing clear resemblance to certain charicaturs of European states I cannot see it.

This may not sound like praise to people who don't appreciate this sort of thing but I'd have bought the game even if there was no combat, just to experiance the cutscenes, conversations, and story.

Some of the characters are weak, but I think people are overly harsh, desperate to find the smallest crack in a game that's prequal was almost universally praised. I myself thought the companions let the game down, compared to the companions in Origins, but some of them are fantastic. I think I'd be less annoyed by the choice of companions if all the irritating ones weren't the ones I'd advise taking for game mechanics reasons.

Oh, I had a lenghty discussion with Daivd Gaider on the Bioware boards about the setting, and he flat out admitted that Ferelden was Scotland, Orlais France and Antiva the italian city states (or, "inspired by"). That's a huge turnoff for me, yet I trudged through DA:O a few times.
Of the DA2 plot, I've read that there isn't a motivating over-arching drama or noticable narrative later in the game, or, if it's there it gets drowned in a flood of sidequests.
I heard something about recycled dungeons as well? That's just poop

I couldln't care one whit about where they got their inspiration for the world. That they have RL inspiration make's things seem more real since they have more easily taken and just shifted facts a bit, instead of having had to come up with a lot all by itself.
No story spoilers, just general plot telling.

Spoiler:

Following up on that spoiler box, don't read it if you dont want the finale ending spoilers:

Spoiler:

[Flo]

EDIT:

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DA2 story thoughts, spoilers;

Spoiler:

[Lavian]

For those who weren't entirly pleased for the story DA2 took. What were you expecting instead? Just a sincere question as folks seem to have this other idea of what they wanted out of it.

[Sophie]

Hours in. but still in what feels to be the early stages of the game. Sure is a lot of running involved. Avoiding spoilers atm though, but roughly how long did it take for you to complete?

[Mikasa]

Hours in. but still in what feels to be the early stages of the game. Sure is a lot of running involved. Avoiding spoilers atm though, but roughly how long did it take for you to complete?

20 hours first time.

[Lavian]

30'ish hours if you do all the quests and dont skip dialogue.

[Gahalla]

Took me about 36 hours, I feel like I missed a few things though

[Chase - Esou]

Arkham City looks good but it doesn't seem to be much different from Asylum... wtf am I talking about, that's FUCKING AWESOME. :3333

[Sophie]

20-36 hours should give just enough time before the new assassin's creed hits the pc Although I'd really like to see DA2 from the opposite pov, wonder exactly how different it'll be.

[Nithel]

For those who weren't entirly pleased for the story DA2 took. What were you expecting instead? Just a sincere question as folks seem to have this other idea of what they wanted out of it.

The biggest bummer for me is the companion system that's.. gone. You can't talk to companions anymore anywhere you want. I miss the camp where you ended up in DA:O after every mission and where you could explore your companions and chat with them. Now it seems there's set quests when you can talk to them and outside of that.. nothing seemingly. It seems they really pushed this down a lot.

I'm really enjoying the story so far. I like building up a name in a city and Kirkwall is a very interesting city. It has a feeling that I never had with Denerim for example! I'm only just at act two so we'll see how it goes.

In general I was expecting a bit more from the companion system and had hoped we'd be exploring more areas than just Kirkwall.

[Sophie]

In general I was expecting a bit more from the companion system and had hoped we'd be exploring more areas than just Kirkwall.

^

Although the companions seem to have decent story lines at least, I wonder how different those can turn out given different choices, here's to hoping. And Kirkwall, nghh, wouldn't mind a bit of new scenery, then again, still thinking there is a lot ahead for me still.

[Flo]

While the voicework and storytelling looks promising, tOR's certainly not going to be revolutionary on the instancing part.

Also, lol, AC:Bro having issues being distributed via digital channels

[Chase - Esou]

The people being surprised by that obviously didn't buy AC2 digitally when it got out, like some losers out there :S








... I got it working a year later though.

[Flo]

This isn't the first time? Hah.

[Geneviève]

Nothing in the video really excited/interested me until the closing theme played. That made me very happy, but I'm still not interested.

[Nathiniós]

DA2 can go choke on it's own derp for a while. I just got AC:B in the mail, time to throw italians off St. Peters cathedral for shits and giggles. AW YEAH.

[Sophie]

DA2 can go choke on it's own derp for a while. I just got AC:B in the mail, time to throw italians off St. Peters cathedral for shits and giggles. AW YEAH.

Still liking DA2, but it's starting to lose my attention and starts to drag. Not sure if i want to do any more random side quests which just throw wave after wave of random mobs at you, appearing out of nowhere.

[Unknown]

Still enjoying it...I thought you knew this was about deciding who this champion were and what he did (opinions Included), not saving A world from A legion Of Arch demons.

[Lavian]

Still enjoying it...I thought you knew this was about deciding who this champion were and what he did (opinions Included), not saving A world from A legion Of Arch demons.

Not everyone knows that entirly no! People suspect its a save the world scenario in general... Oh how they are wrong but I aint complaining either way. Story was good enough.

[Muzjhath]

I'm darn -happy- it wasn't. Gotten sick of those in games since they are a dime a dozen.

[Geneviève]

I liked it a lot. Showed the lengths it took to attain the power the champion had and then the pressure that was put on them to choose a side. I found myself agreeing with both sides on different points and despising the fanatics on both sides.

I didn't think the storytelling was quite as good as in DA: Origings, Bann Tegans first conversation with Anora sent shivers down my spine. That said there were still a few 'very' touching moments.

The fights did begin to drag by the time I got to the final act. I loved that individual opponants were trivial and i thought waves of enemies during some fights was an excellent idea, especially during boss fights, but by the fourth act I was fed up of bumping into a scummy bunch of criminals, butchering them all with a single volley of spells from my three mages then rolling my eyes as a wave of ninja appeared from the rooftops/sewers/thin air etc.

I've yet to play it through a second time, I'm creating a new Origins save to import first, but I'm really looking forward to seeing what changes can be made with different decisions.

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