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Post by Skarain Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:09 pm

I'm struggling to find more information about blood mages (Not WCIII unit). Blood mages that exist in game often use "blood bolt" spell and one guest in blasted lands for a blood mage reveals that he wants blood as reagent for his spell but that's all i can find. If someone could write here anything they know about blood mages i would appreciate that.
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:17 pm

There's a thread on Blood Magic in "The Infirmary" in the group forums.
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Post by Gesh Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:20 pm

Seek out the Night elf Are-peer known as Theraluin! ^^
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Post by Dréfurion Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:24 pm

Vectoria wrote:Seek out the Night elf Are-peer known as Theraluin! ^^

Him and Drustai would be the people I'd suggest too yes Surprised

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Post by Swan Emperor Arenfel Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:35 pm

Has anybody thought of using the name "Blood Wizard," rather than Blood Mage? As I understand the Gnomish master of Blood Magic is titled a Blood Wizard; surely this would help to stop confusion.
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Post by Gesh Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:40 pm

Wizard is probably the most cringe-worthy title a character could ever have.

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Post by Lexgrad Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:43 pm

Vect, is that a gandolf larper, or just a welshman?
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Post by Zhakiri Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:44 pm

Kristeas Sunbinder wrote:There's a thread on Blood Magic in "The Infirmary" in the group forums.

That's my creation, yes. If you have any questions I'd be happy to help.
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Post by Gesh Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:47 pm

Dreth wrote:Vect, is that a gandolf larper, or just a welshman?

It's anyone's guess..
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Post by Skarain Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:56 pm

Im afraid i was unable to find my way to the blood magic thread, but i managed contact theraluin. I thank you for your aid Smile
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Post by Zhakiri Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:10 pm

If you did want the thread, you need to click on Usergroups and apply for access to the Infirmary forum. Smile
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Post by Aldric Essalus Helmfrid Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:12 pm

The Death Knight path of Blood is the best and possibly only blizzard created lore regarding blood magic as you refer to it. That or the San'layn. I suggest researching both as a loose "Guideline".
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Post by Guest Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:12 pm

Wizard isn't cringe-worthy.

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Post by Aldric Essalus Helmfrid Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:14 pm

A Blood Mage however -is- what we know of it as the WC3 unit. What you seek is something outside the proper lore but is accepted by roleplayers. It can exist within the lore given what abilities other paths have shown.
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Post by Aldric Essalus Helmfrid Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:15 pm

I don't think Wizard is cringe-worthy either.
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Post by Gesh Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:17 pm

It just reminds me of Harry Potter and pointless and often confusing use of pointy hats..
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Post by Dréfurion Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:17 pm

There's a Gnome Blood Mage thing heretic miscreant noob in Blasted Lands.. Blood Magic is very real within this universe, AND EVERYONE USING IT SHOULD BE KILLED WITH FIRE!!!

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Post by Skarain Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:25 pm

Well -what i seek- already exist ingame, and i have seen atleast one guy roleplay one. The name of the two different spellcasters are just the same, not meaning one is the real one and another false (though the wc3 one was first). And Nygarth thank you for guiding me how to gain access to the infirmary
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Post by Kristeas Sunbinder Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:31 pm

I bet the Gurubashi's now a thing or two about using blood for magic aswell!
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Post by Drustai Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:50 pm

With Blood Magic, you more or less need to come up with the majority of details yourself. There are some aspects to it that can be identified through in-game lore (namely that they use fire magic, have vampiric magic that can use the power of blood to heal, and so on), but for the most part you have to go with whatever you feel works right.

For me, personally, I see blood magic as more about understanding blood rather than simply using it as a reagent. That blood, as the object that best represents life and energy, is also something intricately unique to an individual and, if understood, can tell a great many things about that person. The idea that blood holds secrets and power, with a skilled blood mage able to read it and not only determine many things about the individual (like whether they have ever used fel, where they have ever had their blood spilled, where they are right at this moment, and so on), but also allowing almost complete control over them--somewhat similar to the kind of power you have over someone if you possess their True Name (which do exist in WoW, albeit only in a single quest to my knowledge). And with the way I see it, you should need to have acquired a person's own blood if you are to be able to do any of the above--just having blood in general can allow simple spells like a blood bolt, but to actually use it to its full potential, you have to acquire the blood of your target beforehand.

The type of blood should also come into play with the kind of spells used, more than just the unique blood of individuals. Different blood has different properties. Demon blood is an excellent power source and great for evil spells, but is dark, corrupting, and addictive. Faerie dragon blood on the other hand has anti-magic properties, and also likely good for breaking or seeing through illusion spells. Coautl blood would be a good reagent for dispelling magical effects, while the blood of an owl or dog might be useful for wisdom/knowledge and loyalty spells respectively.

And I see the WCIII blood mage as the same kind that exist in-game, personally. Fire and blood have intricate ties to each other--blood is warm, active, vibrant. It pumps and flows through the body, generating heat. So I see blood magi, like WCIII blood magi, also having a tie to fire spells, as well as the things fire represents, like strong emotions, which help to get the blood flowing.

The idea being, it should be more than just simply 'spilling blood and getting blood-related spells'. Blood magic needs to be about blood: what it means and what it represents. Life, movement, energy, emotion, heat, health, secrets. Blood says something about an individual, and about a race or species, and blood magi are those who wish to delve deeply into this, into reading, understanding, and controlling that which is so vitally integral to nearly every living being.

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Post by Dréfurion Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:00 pm

About the True Name thing. The quest (which part of the Gnome Blood Mage chain) states you have power over demons if you know their true name.. If memory serves right the wording is quite restrictive to demons (as to say, beyond them there's no such thing) But yes, it's confirmed part of WoW.

Blood Magic is very interesting AND HERETIC AND EVERYONE USING It SHOULD DIE (especially if they hurt fae dragons for their blood, you cruel sick murderers!!)

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Post by Zhakiri Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:07 pm

Very much so Drustai, yet I feel the crux of Blood Magic lies in the magical potential of Blood. Unlocking the power within it, by absorbing it, storing it and using it to empower yourself is an extremely vampiric concept. Sacrifice is key, whether it's your own bloodshed or even better, someone elses.

Blood is traditionally stigmatized with elements of evil, yet does that mean we all have evil running through our veins? No, Blood to me connotates with Life, not Death, which is why I shrug off the negatives. As far as calling Blood the physical embodiment of the Holy Light, Life Energy. Albeit that's only my character's interpretation, unless anyone wishes to share!

That aside, I wholly agree with what Drustai has said. Especially the interesting parts on types of Blood. I do always enjoy gathering the necessary regent for a Trollsblood Potion of Healing... Wink
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Post by Drustai Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:22 pm

Drefurion wrote:Blood Magic is very interesting AND HERETIC AND EVERYONE USING It SHOULD DIE (especially if they hurt fae dragons for their blood, you cruel sick murderers!!)

*hides her faerie dragon blood*

*whistles innocently*

Nygarth wrote:Very much so Drustai, yet I feel the crux of Blood Magic lies in the magical potential of Blood. Unlocking the power within it, by absorbing it, storing it and using it to empower yourself is an extremely vampiric concept. Sacrifice is key, whether it's your own bloodshed or even better, someone elses.

Oh, I agree that bloodshed and sacrifice are very important aspects of blood magic. As I said, blood is an amazing source of power and energy (if not the most potent source available), which makes it an exceptional way of empowering spells. I just believe there is far more to blood magic than simply slitting one's wrist. Smile
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Post by Zhakiri Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:26 pm

Much much more, but it does come down to that sometimes <3
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Post by Dréfurion Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:55 pm

I'll cut all of you up and use the power of your blood to summon KJ and finally become the king of Azeroth, like I deserve to be!!

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